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09-04-2009 12:30 AM  8 years agoPost 81
McKrackin

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You really have to ask what dues are for? Where do you think all the stuff at a field like THIS comes from? The flying field fairy?
Nice response.You really make me want to get out there and join to meet sweethearts like you.

I have never been to a flying field and I'm not a member so YES I DO have to ask.

Not real sure I'm even interested now.Thanks.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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09-04-2009 12:31 AM  8 years agoPost 82
Thumpernator

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Senoia, Georgia, USA

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Dues.Why?What do they go to pay for?
You can't be serious. Think about it!
I've seen mention of others flying your stuff.What kind of idiot would allow that and who would even think of something like that?
If you've read the whole thread, you'd see that THAT wasn't the case.
Equipment inspections.Who says the guy doing the inspections knows any more than me?Or even as much for that matter?What are the inspectors qualifications?He bought a card online?
They may not know as much as you. But if you show up and no one knows you, a quick look can't hurt. A club that is that safety concious is not going to have an unqualified person looking over your machine.

Dave
I keep on thinking, but nothing's happening. Knuk, Knuk, Knuk

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09-04-2009 12:33 AM  8 years agoPost 83
McKrackin

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You can't be serious. Think about it!
Another nice one.
Nevermind.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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09-04-2009 12:46 AM  8 years agoPost 84
McKrackin

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I would like to reiterate the fact that I have never been to a flying field so I was seriously asking what is involved and where the money is spent.I don't feel I ask anything that called for being treated like an idiot or talked down to.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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09-04-2009 01:36 AM  8 years agoPost 85
bstock

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Easton, MD.

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"the flying field fairy" - that was actually pretty funny

Ok... let's put this back on track... in reading his last response... he seems to be sincerely asking.

Dues are needed to pay for land rent (or a morgage payment if they are buying the land), the lawn mower and the constant maintance it requires, gas for the mower - and then there's the weedwacker. Grass seed, fertalizer, lime. rolling of the field if grass - or paving and patching if asphalt (or both). Grading and maybe gravel for the road. Construction and maintance of any structures, sheds, fencing, setup/ pit tables, picnic tables, and flight boxes. Insurance and other AMA dues. Printing and mailing a newsletter. Garbage cans, bags, and removal. Maybe a PA system. Maybe a generator (and maintance). If they have a website, hosting fees. The grill and propane. Porta Potti rental... and stuff I am for sure forgeting.

Hope that helps.

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09-04-2009 01:48 AM  8 years agoPost 86
FlaG8r

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At first this annoyed me, but on second thought I guess it's not an awful idea to check over someone heli and make sure they won't accidentally fly their heli into the pits bc they can't hover.

However, all of use were at some point awful at hovering, or couldn't do it. So are these folks not allowed to fly there?

Life is tough, it's tougher if you're stupid

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09-04-2009 01:50 AM  8 years agoPost 87
McKrackin

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Excellent response Bstock.
I was just wondering because I was reading another forum and the guys were talking about their club meeting at a local airfield to fly and in that case the airfields upkeep and facilties were taken care of by the owners of the field.
I just couldn't find any overhead in the posts so I was curious.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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09-04-2009 02:03 AM  8 years agoPost 88
WJackson

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Smyrna, Delaware

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Times are a little tougher than before for airports, especially the small private fields. Many are more apt to not only let, but encourage aeromodeling activities. If done right, an R/C field and full scale airport can coincide very well. A young aeromodeler is usually the futures full scale pilot.

RIP Roman
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09-04-2009 02:21 AM  8 years agoPost 89
FenwayRick

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Smyrna, De

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First impression can be nearly impossible to reverse or undo, making those first encounters extremely important.
I hope FlyingBrian finds a member at a local club to fly with and help out, after all this is suppose to fun.

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09-04-2009 02:43 AM  8 years agoPost 90
what_the_helli

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cookeville, tn USA

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At first this annoyed me, but on second thought I guess it's not an awful idea to check over someone heli and make sure they won't accidentally fly their heli into the pits bc they can't hover.

However, all of use were at some point awful at hovering, or couldn't do it. So are these folks not allowed to fly there?
When you show up to a field for the first time no one knows if your proficient in maintenance or flying. Also if your brand new to all of this, you may not have things set up right.

Having someone LOOK over your machine does not mean they are better or know more, but it is another set of eyes that with a fresh perspective have the opportunity to save a crash.

If you don't know how to fly yet, you can learn at most clubs. They have guys willing to teach you and usually a place or time when it is safer for you to learn.

When I learned they put me out there, and then they all ran and ducked for cover....
Wait they still do that

I put the fun in dysFUNctional :)
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09-04-2009 01:25 PM  8 years agoPost 91
greenboot

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Marblehead, OH

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So what happens if you "fail" this demonstration test? Can still join the club as a beginner? Does someone then buddy box for you or stand next to you while you fly?
I guess it's better if they know you are a beginner, but the bottom line is when someone is learning, there is a greater chance for a crash.

Tom

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09-04-2009 01:29 PM  8 years agoPost 92
rotormonkey

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Ottawa, ON - Canada

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Yeah of course you can still join. It just means that everyone knows your skill level, and can duck and cover appropriately. Some brave soul might offer some instruction too

If it can't hover, it ain't worth flying.

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09-04-2009 02:43 PM  8 years agoPost 93
cudaboy_71

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sacramento, ca, u.s.

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So what happens if you "fail" this demonstration test? Can still join the club as a beginner? Does someone then buddy box for you or stand next to you while you fly?
first club i joined back in the early 80s all n00bs got a student license. same dues, and voting privs but, an instructor (any willing body with a full licencse, really) had to accompany you during flight. this was before buddy boxes...so, in todays terms you'd probably have to buddy box).

i had zero issue with this. i never would have learned to fly otherwise--that WAS the sim for the era and i welcomed the help.

after about 3 months of training and 2-3 tries i finally was able to limp my little 40-trainer plank around a level circuit in both directions and land. i got my license and was on my own.

that said, in my current club i showed up with my stuff. a few guys came over to look over my equipment, though i'd be reluctant to call it an inspection. if that's what it was, they played it off like just checking out a cool toy. then, everyone was sharp enough NOT to turn their backs on the new guy, and cleared the air for about 6 minutes while i flew. the end.

if it ain't broke, break it.

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09-04-2009 02:46 PM  8 years agoPost 94
GyroFreak

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Orlando Florida ...28N 81W

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For safety reasons as a beginner I was flying during the weekdays at my club. That was my choice, not the clubs.

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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09-04-2009 03:15 PM  8 years agoPost 95
Flying Brian

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St. Clairsville, Ohio

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I have NO problems with a bunch of guys looking over my stuff. 2 minds are way better then 1. More experienced operators always help me with different set features and cool ways of doing stuff. I hope I can get a second opinion on my wiring job, as it may good to some, I wish it could be better located.

I have not a problem with folks of experience flying my heli's, just so long as they fly it better then me!!

"I just don't Listen" "

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09-04-2009 03:22 PM  8 years agoPost 96
GyroFreak

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Orlando Florida ...28N 81W

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Dues.Why?What do they go to pay for?
1) Field maintenance. (mower, gas, repairs)
2) Building
3) Electric bill (we have a charge station)
4) Equipment (Buddy boxes, First aid kits, Fire extinguishers, Tables, )
5) Property rental.
6) Entry road repair
7) Comfort house (Hardly comfortable but when ya gotta go )

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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09-04-2009 09:26 PM  8 years agoPost 97
McKrackin

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Lucasville,Ohio

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A few people have kindly described the dues and I appreciate it.

What about these inspections?
I wouldn't really have a problem with someone looking over my stuff but I would want to know what makes the inspector qualified to call any gigs.Someone always knows the best way to do things but someone else will always know a better way and so on and so on and so on....

I don't think I'd be willing to change anything on someone elses say so unless they agreed to pay damages if it didn't work or flew different than I'm used to.
My stuff is tight and I know it.I would never fly in a populated area if there was a possible problem.

Anywho,is there a factory rep or something available?

I literally never use the word literally right.

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09-04-2009 09:42 PM  8 years agoPost 98
rotormonkey

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Ottawa, ON - Canada

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The purpose of having somebody check out your helicopter isn't for them to tell you to set things up their way. It's just to make sure everything's safe. If you're new you might show up with a heli that's never been flown, and has all the surfaces reversed.

Even if you have flown before, you might show up with a heli that has half the screws coming loose, the blades held together with CA, and landing gear made from paperclips.

Yes, YOU have the good sense not to do that, but not everybody does. The idea is just to make sure that guys like that fix whatever needs to be fixed, and fly safe.

If you show up with a heli in good working order that doesn't have a rotorhead made from toothpicks, and show you're a competent pilot, everybody will just leave you alone.

On the other side of the coin, after you've joined, you probably don't want to see some other asshat show up at the club with a beat up POS that could fly apart at any second who likes to fly over the pits either.

The rules are there just to make sure everybody gets along, has fun and nobody gets killed in the process.

If it can't hover, it ain't worth flying.

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09-04-2009 10:04 PM  8 years agoPost 99
McKrackin

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Lucasville,Ohio

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On the other side of the coin, after you've joined, you probably don't want to see some other asshat show up at the club with a beat up POS that could fly apart at any second who likes to fly over the pits either.
Thanks for putting that into perspective.Makes sense.

The closest club to me is about 70 miles so I haven't looked into it yet.
I did find a club closer but it is a joke.I checked it out.
A few locust posts stuck in the ground with plywood loosly nailed on them.Twenty feet by a hundred feet area mowed with armpit deep weeds surrounding it.No facilities.
All plankers too

The weeds had a swampy area too.Mosquitos that could stand flat footed and screw a turkey.

This is another reason for my curiosity about dues.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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09-05-2009 02:38 AM  8 years agoPost 100
Spitfire1

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Perth Australia

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Its just the way it is if you want to be member of a club you have to put up with all there bull**** rules, stupid things like haveing to put a peg in the frequency board even when theres only two guys flying, both on 2.4 gig.
Common sense goes out the window and its al rules, rules, and more rules.

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