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HelicopterMain Discussion › The rules of Joining a new Club
09-02-2009 03:35 AM  8 years agoPost 41
what_the_helli

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cookeville, tn USA

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I also have to agree here, for them to insist they must fly your machine to join the club, is odd.

I am the Pres of the local heli club here.

Pay your dues
Have your AMA
And come have fun

easypeazy

I put the fun in dysFUNctional :)
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09-02-2009 04:13 AM  8 years agoPost 42
Santiago P

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South West, Ohio

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All this talk makes me wanna leave my club and join the one in Springboro.
Seriously Bryan, is their place so nice one would be willing to put up with that kind of crap. Demonstrating skill is one thing, but flying a candidate member's model is ridiculous.

IF they cannot determine a model is safe to fly with a static inspection, then they have NO business performing maidem flights on their own stuff.

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09-02-2009 04:31 AM  8 years agoPost 43
max232

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Pensacola

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this came from a page they posted,dont see anything about flying someone's machine, but this might not be all the rules.
1. All helicopter pilots must follow the same flight training and equipment inspection rules asfixed wing pilots.2. All helicopter pilots practicing hovering and basic forward flight must stay in the helicopterhovering area at the south end of our field. All pilots in this area must hover and fly at asafe distance beyond the landing pads, over the planted fields and NOT fly out over thesouth end of the paved runway.3. Pilots that are signed off at Level 2 and capable of flying circuits or mild 3D may fly on theflight line with the fixed wing aircraft.4. Flying out over the parking area or the pit area is prohibited.5. All helicopter pilots must have an updated MVRCC membership card that shows theirhelicopter status.Mike Sparrow and Rob Duley requested, and received approval as “Fixed Wing Inspector” status.Motion carried unanimously.

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09-02-2009 07:48 AM  8 years agoPost 44
dvdking

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Willingboro NJ

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I am the president of the club and for someone to tell you it is there rule for them to fly your heli to see if it is safe and that if they crash it the expense is on you is crazy. In our club you get your AMA, Pay your dues and fly. If you need help we will gladly help you.

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09-02-2009 08:24 AM  8 years agoPost 45
Harshflyer

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Seattle, Wa.

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I call total BS! I would almost think someone made this up just to get people talking here on RR.

"We need to fly your ship to see if it is right."
"Ya, and you need to suck my ****"

What a joke. You club reps know thats crap. Someone call AMA on these jerkoffs and pull thier charter.

Still asking why

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09-02-2009 08:27 AM  8 years agoPost 46
Spitfire1

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Perth Australia

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I was about to say that as far as someone flying your machine I think someone was more than likely pulling your leg, maybe you dident get the joke.

Looks like the president of said club has set the record straight.

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09-02-2009 08:27 AM  8 years agoPost 47
Sonic88

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Murfreesboro, TN

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Is it possible that he was kidding? I could see how someone could throw that in as a joke while running down the requirements for joining. Did someone tell you that in a conversation or was it written somewhere. In the case of the latter, I don't think the joke theory is very likely.

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09-02-2009 08:31 AM  8 years agoPost 48
Spitfire1

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Perth Australia

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I don't think the joke theory is very likely.
I do.

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09-02-2009 10:11 AM  8 years agoPost 49
Sonic88

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Murfreesboro, TN

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I meant that if it was written somewhere, say in a Club rules document or something, that it was less likely to be a joke than if a member had just said that to him. Either way, if it is truly a requirement for membership, I would leave and never look back. That is completely unacceptable.

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09-02-2009 02:16 PM  8 years agoPost 50
rotormonkey

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Ottawa, ON - Canada

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If it turns out they do want to fly it, just tell them you fly with reversed rudder and collective, and if they dump it it's on them.

If it can't hover, it ain't worth flying.

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09-02-2009 03:56 PM  8 years agoPost 51
Flying Brian

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St. Clairsville, Ohio

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I really need to reinterate the fact that I am not here to bitch and mone, or bash. In my original thread/post my questions were to find out if this is the norm.

Adding to the prior posts, and to answer their questions:

1. I was told this by 3 Club members, and it was NO JOKE. I need to fly in front of the board/officers and maintain a safe flight. I must goto a training course for up to 3 weeks to become certified to become a member as well. I have no order in which any of these things need to be met.

2. I was also told the officer that flys the heli will be a highly experienced operator.

The club in very nice, and everyone I met this day was extremly nice, giving, funny, and very tame. The grounds are top notch, with a fine layor of Soy been feeds as far as the eye can see.

I was also told this club is extremly helicopter friendly, and has many top notch pilots that enjoy flying early saturday mornings, and I was welcome to join in as a visitor for awhile at my own risk.

"I just don't Listen" "

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09-02-2009 04:03 PM  8 years agoPost 52
GyroFreak

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Orlando Florida ...28N 81W

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How are beginners supposed to learn with help if the club requires you to fly before joining ??? My club requires AMA, meet some of the club members and then pay your dues. We keep buddy boxes on site to help train beginners. We encourage newbies. (And a lot of us are 'Old Farts'.

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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09-02-2009 04:10 PM  8 years agoPost 53
Flying Brian

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St. Clairsville, Ohio

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Well Im sure the training class that I need to take first should prove that Im a safe pilot. And Im a totally different in person verse here on the fourms. Everyone that has met me here, then in the flesh, was astound thinking Im a big ol trouble maker.

Anyhow, the training course is how they evaluate beginners and experienced pilots. If a experienced pilot wants to fly my bird, I dont care, just dont crash,,,Please.

"I just don't Listen" "

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09-02-2009 04:32 PM  8 years agoPost 54
ErichF

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Sutton, NH

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Well, to each their own...I'd tell em to pound sand. This actually seems like a passive way to limit club membership to a few active pilots.

Aint no way I'd let anyone else take one of my Caliber 90s out for a spin that wasn't at least an active competition pilot AMA class 3 or F3C. Not to mention the waiver of responsibility they force you into.

Wow. They truely are a "one-of-a-kind" club

I cannot find this club in the AMA listings. Who the heck are they?

Erich

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09-02-2009 04:43 PM  8 years agoPost 55
rotormonkey

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Ottawa, ON - Canada

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In my club they want different things depending on your qualifications:

If you already have your "heli wings" (meaning you've already been certified by another club as a safe and compentent pilot), just a quick look over your heli, and a short demonstration to prove your a competent pilot. We don't need your to piroflip or cut the grass or anything. Just hover around, a little FF, etc. We look for safe starting procedures, etc, and if you check out, we'll leave you to do your thing.

If you don't have your "heli wings", we ask that you simply have an instructor with you at the pilot station, while your starting, etc to make sure they're close at hand in case anything goes wrong. If possible we'll even offer to buddy box or whatever. Once you're comfortable enough, we have you do a quick test. Hover around, a little forward flight, prove your a compentent pilot etc.

Nobody wants to fly anybody else's heli in my club. But we do ask that you play along so everybody's confident you're not going to kill them. I think it's pretty reasonable.

As to your situation, I suspect the members in question are just pulling new rules out their arses. Ask the CFI, and explain your concerns. The CFI will have the final say on any such matters, and everyone else in the club will be forced to abide unless of course there's a written rule, which according to the prez, there clearly isn't.

If it can't hover, it ain't worth flying.

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09-02-2009 05:11 PM  8 years agoPost 56
Flying Brian

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St. Clairsville, Ohio

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I think there is a misuunderstanding here, that guy was saying he is the president of his club, and his location is certanly not in Ohio. I think maybe this was misconstrude. If Im wrong here I apoligize.

As for the rules Im told about, a few different member not in the same location said the same thing, with one being more strick then the others, meaning, a quik demo, if you clear as a good pilot, your signed off, and a definite inspection and flight,,, but who really knows. I will find out saturday..

"I just don't Listen" "

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09-02-2009 05:16 PM  8 years agoPost 57
FenwayRick

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Smyrna, De

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Just show up with a pos bird that has a penis canopy and say here you go dick.

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09-02-2009 05:21 PM  8 years agoPost 58
bkervaski

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Birmingham, AL, USA

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I would just chuckle and say "uhm, no".

An experience R/C heli pilot can look over a model and tell it's risky to fly.

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09-02-2009 05:23 PM  8 years agoPost 59
TaleGunner

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Deer Park WA

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You might find that they are just seeing if you are open to there rules. Go find out and fly for them then if they really require someone to fly your heli or plane check him out. Personally I trust my equipment and can tell if someone else is competent to fly it and he or she will probably only hover it anyway. If you don't feel they are qualified refuse, but go check them out then once joined become a board member and change the rules

CRASH! GLUE! REPEAT!
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09-02-2009 06:57 PM  8 years agoPost 60
Simko

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Erie, PA - USA

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I just started flying about 3 months ago. I have can safely hover and move in tail-in circles, tail-in figure-8s, etc.

I was planning on getting my AMA to goto the local club field to learn to fly better, but from all the comments, it seems like most places want you to already know how to fly.

What's this crap that you have to go down to the end of the field in a secluded heli-hovering area and stay there until you can fly?

Reminds me of when I started snowboarding and it wasn't really accepted yet at all the ski resorts. They didn't want the 'crazy' snowboarders on the same hills with the 'elite' skiiers so we were forced to spend all day on the same 1 or 2 runs.

I might not be able to fly awesome, but I can fly within my abilities and the only way to get better is to push the boundaries of your abilities which unfortunately is going to end up in a crash from time to time. Do new airplane pilots not crash?

I'm still gonna check out the local field. Hopefully everything works out.

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