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09-01-2009 06:01 PM  8 years agoPost 21
jbdww

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Oh and BTW. All rules that come from AMA are suggested rules.

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09-01-2009 06:09 PM  8 years agoPost 22
human213

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your wife

Yes, I checked the obscure paragraph 13 of the rules for this
club...after your check flight by them, the club pres gets to
take your wife for a spin for one night...

what a wonderful organization.

m

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09-01-2009 06:22 PM  8 years agoPost 23
Damper

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Flying Brian

[quote]That was Houston,Tx...

I was wondering which club that was?

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09-01-2009 07:53 PM  8 years agoPost 24
ErichF

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I have this feeling we've heard this before from someone else awhile back...or I have a serious case of Dejavu.

I also wonder if this is just a case of misunderstanding what Brian was told, or what he thinks he was told. No offence, Brian.

I often talk to folks about club rules here and there, and quite often they misunderstand or misinterpret what they read or were told. And, it's usual for them to jump to the worst case conclusions.

My guess is that they offered to have an experienced pilot test fly your bird, thinking that you were a newb...and simply misunderstood. Many clubs are like this, in an attempt to be helpful to new pilots. I have a hard time believing that they HAVE to fly your bird as condition of acceptance to the club.

Post a link to this club so we can read the rules, if available.

Erich

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09-01-2009 08:33 PM  8 years agoPost 25
1WOLFS1

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I would never join that club. first off your not flying my birds.
second i will show you my skills after, i have seen your better than me.
not going to have a inferior pilot judging me.
if its a cool club . ama required, and pay dues . thats it.

I live in vermont, there is a new york field 10 mins from my house, but they are a$$e$, and not chopper friendly. so i bash them every chance i get. i own my own land. have 30 acres with landing pad, i can use my buddies field that i am teaching to fly . witch is 70 acres. and our neighbor, next field over is a farmer and he lets us use 300 acres of alfalfa. i have it better than there feild. and i let anyone that getts a hold of me, fly here anytime. i love watching, talking, flying.
there is a cool club in burlington . http://www.vthelicrew.com
that i will buy a ama member ship so i can join them

thanks
WOLF

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09-01-2009 08:44 PM  8 years agoPost 26
Darren Lee

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Doesn't make much sense at all. What could the club officer possibly learn from flying your helicopter that he couldn't learn from looking it over on the bench and watching you fly it?

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09-01-2009 09:51 PM  8 years agoPost 27
GM1

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Hmmmm.....................

I grew up about a half mile from that field and know it well. My folks lived there until a couple of years ago. I have very few issues with club rules, since usually there is a pretty solid reason why they made the rule, sometimes a near catastrophe, and I understand them wanting to ascertain my flying skills, and also understand wanting to be sure a model is airworthy. That being said, I would be really hesitant about letting someone I don't know fly one of my contest models or even my sport model without knowing their skill level. Also, I can generally just inspect a model and tell if it is airworthy without test flying it.
At that particular field, I flew periodically as a visitor and was welcomed warmly after demonstrating I could actually fly and I spent several afternoons there enjoying my visit. My question would be: How bad do I want to fly there?
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09-01-2009 11:29 PM  8 years agoPost 28
JasonJ

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I don't know, I would definitely confirm that part about them flying your helicopter, because I just don't buy it. For all they know, you fly a different Mode or you fly the tail and have your rudder reversed. You could have any sort of setup that is unconventional, and they wouldn't be able to fly it. I suspect is was like someone said about someone testing your helicopter for you if you are noobed out.

The club I joined was pretty easy. Check for the dues and an AMA card. I volunteered to fly for them before I joined though, to show them I was safe and competent. They had to run off a guy who joined and was very, very dangerous with his helicopter. He couldn't fly the basics, but was always trying to do 3D and crashing all over the place. That left a bad taste in their mouth about helicopters, them being the typical retired airplane types. I just wanted them to know a helicopter can be flown safely and predictably, and that spazmoidal poorly executed 3D isn't the only thing out there being done with a helicopter.

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09-01-2009 11:52 PM  8 years agoPost 29
TachyonDriver

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The only way someone gets to fly my Raptor is if I allow them to - and she's not a $2000 machine. I can only hope that you've misunderstood what the club wanted to do, Brian.

+1 on saying that any competent heli guy should just look over your machine as a pre-flight say, then watch you hover and fly around, and then say if he's happy or not, unless he hands you $2000 beforehand!

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09-01-2009 11:56 PM  8 years agoPost 30
bexusflexus

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Wow! I've never heard of such a thing. I only have experience with two diff clubs (both good). Most guys don't want anything to do with test flying someone else's heli/plank because they don't want to take responsibility for crashing it! Just because it says in some club by-law that they are not responsible for crash damages does not mean there would not be some awfully hard feelings afterward. Handing me back my $2000 heli in pieces might make me act in ways I would not normally act

even not doing anything would have been better than nothing...

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09-02-2009 12:00 AM  8 years agoPost 31
RotorTech321

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That would be the day before I let someone fly my equipment to join a club lol. You need to find a different club or a different place to fly.

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09-02-2009 12:04 AM  8 years agoPost 32
jbdww

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The sad part about this is if someone can not join a club because they can not fly, then they may take there equipment to a public park in danger of others.

What if you fly a Mode 1 radio?

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09-02-2009 12:08 AM  8 years agoPost 33
JasonJ

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North Idaho

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Yes, I checked the obscure paragraph 13 of the rules for this
club...after your check flight by them, the club pres gets to
take your wife for a spin for one night...
Pretty sure that's how it is in biker gangs....What will be next, you have to get jumped in to join an RC club?

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09-02-2009 12:24 AM  8 years agoPost 34
JAy jordan2

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Cincinnati, OH

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I go to this club's annual heli fun fly every year and I know the president and many of the heli fliers at this club personally. It is one of the largest clubs in the area and you won't find a better bunch of people!

You won't regret joining this club!
The only reason I am not a member here is that I live in Anderson and I am rarely up on the north side of the city. I do know many people from Mason and areas near Otterbein that are members and fly there. All of them are different skill levels and all have the same amount of fun!

Great field, great people, plus one of the lowest membership costs in the area.

I noticed everyone who has posted is not from the local area. I can personally speak for everyone in the Cincinnati Heli community that this is a top notch club.

JAy

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09-02-2009 12:39 AM  8 years agoPost 35
1WOLFS1

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IN THE AREA OR NOT. CONSENSUSES IS WE WOULD NOT LET THEM FLY OUR BIRDS! good guys i am sure . BS RULE I KNOW . just not cool

wolf

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09-02-2009 12:51 AM  8 years agoPost 36
WJackson

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Jay, do you know if the "we fly your machine" is a rule or not? I could see having someone who "can" test fly for you if your a noob, but as a requirement for membership, just sounds strange.

RIP Roman
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09-02-2009 02:25 AM  8 years agoPost 37
Sillyness

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Little Rock AR

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It is your heli.

Insist they be on a trainer box. If they start screwing up with it, then you take control. If they start doing stupid stuff with it, then you don't want to be a member anyway. I'd give them a chance though... just get around this rule and see what happens.

The club I'm a member of says you can fly helis, but you can't LEARN to fly a heli there. I was skeptical. Turns out it's a great bunch of guys.

If you have a Spektrum the trainer box is really easy to set up... no mixes or anything at all.

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09-02-2009 02:42 AM  8 years agoPost 38
holzback

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noblesville IN United States

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you gotta realize that all written rules are not always followed. chances are that if you can show that you know what you are doing, and dont bring out junk, they probly will let the rule of another member flying your heli go.

you aint crashin you aint learnin

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09-02-2009 02:45 AM  8 years agoPost 39
LonR

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Just say "sure,you can fly my heli and when you crash it,im beating your face in and dragging your azz to the hobby shop".Then hand him the Radio and see if he still wants to fly it .

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09-02-2009 02:46 AM  8 years agoPost 40
TwistedRotor

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At the "Unclub" I belong to membership consists of showing up, introducing yourself, and having a good time. No dues, no rules, no officers, just common courtesy and common sense.

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