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09-02-2009 08:19 PM  8 years agoPost 41
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Well lets see this ongoing list. You named 2 and one had charges and paid his debt to society.
I'm not going to take the time to do the research for you Ozark. With all the Obama appointees who were proved to be tax cheats. Rahm "dead fish" Emanual, who actually mailed a dead fish which is not only illegal, it's disgusting, the examples I have already given you, Rattner under investigation, and communist appointees, you have to be truly ignorant to not to see that this administration is the most disastrous and corrupt administration ever to occupy the white house.
I've come to the conclusion that Beck and now you, are nothing but a couple of Drama Queens.
Gee.. More name calling. Grow up man.

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09-02-2009 08:51 PM  8 years agoPost 42
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I'm not going to take the time to do the research for you Ozark.
So you just plan to throw out vague accusations and not back them up when someone calls you on it? I researched the names you mentioned and came up nearly dry. You just bring up more names and make more unsubstantiated accusations.
With all the Obama appointees who were proved to be tax cheats. Rahm "dead fish" Emanual, who actually mailed a dead fish which is not only illegal, it's disgusting, the examples I have already given you, Rattner under investigation, and communist appointees,
In keeping with "your Constitution" you continue to point fingers at people who have neither been charged nor convicted of anything and claim them to be criminals. You cited 1 actual example resulting in actual charges being filed and that person satisfied the court 12 years ago on all charges, whatever they were.

Which Constitution are you guys using now? Doesn't sound much like the US Constitution to me.
Gee.. More name calling. Grow up man.
If the shoe fits.... Your whole argument is pretty much a bunch of unsubstantiated drama stirred up by Beck, that you cannot or do not wish to take the time to defend.

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09-02-2009 09:04 PM  8 years agoPost 43
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So you just plan to throw out vague accusations and not back them up when someone calls you on it?
It's all out there in Google Land... Go find it. I will not waste my time finding it for you.
If the shoe fits.... Your whole argument is pretty much a bunch of unsubstantiated drama stirred up by Beck, that you cannot or do not wish to take the time to defend.
If you bothered to watch his show, even just one episode last week, you would have seen videos of the FCC "advisor" praising the communist Chavez takeover. You would have seen video of the Van Horn preaching Marxist ideology during several speeches and interviews.

But, because you hate Glenn, you simply won't do it... How pathetic and sad for you. You're a closed minded fool.

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09-02-2009 09:15 PM  8 years agoPost 44
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Gee.. More name calling. Grow up man.
Have you guys not figured out his MO yet?

He spouts crap and when you nail him on it he starts throwing insults.

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09-02-2009 09:36 PM  8 years agoPost 45
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It's all out there in Google Land... Go find it. I will not waste my time finding it for you.
I did and I showed you exactly what I found. 1 actual criminal charge. The rest is conjecture.
f you bothered to watch his show, even just one episode last week, you would have seen videos of the FCC "advisor" praising the communist Chavez takeover. You would have seen video of the Van Horn preaching Marxist ideology during several speeches and interviews.
Not going to happen. Given Becks track record I wouldn't trust a single video that passed through his editor. You want to believe it its fine but don't get your panties in a wad because everybody else doesn't believe it too, especially when you offer the old "look it up yourself" excuse. I did, I didn't find anything other than Beck himself.

As for Horn, anything you guys don't agree with 100% gets a scary label like socialism or marxism or any ism you can dream of as long as you think it will scare someone into believing what you have convinced yourselves to believe. You guys cannot even settle on which ism is even correct.
But, because you hate Glenn, you simply won't do it... How pathetic and sad for you. You're a closed minded fool.
I don't hate him, I just think he's an opportunist preying on weak minded individuals that do not understand half the crap he talks about, yet are willing to take his word for it because he's on TV. Then when they are pressed to back up his points they parrot, they fall flat as yesterdays open beer.

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09-02-2009 09:38 PM  8 years agoPost 46
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He spouts crap and when you nail him on it he starts throwing insults.
The peanut gallery has spoken!!

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09-02-2009 09:50 PM  8 years agoPost 47
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OzarkCopterBum

The peanut gallery has spoken!!
You do realize that you just proved my point right?

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09-02-2009 10:15 PM  8 years agoPost 48
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Then when they are pressed to back up his points they parrot, they fall flat as yesterdays open beer.
Well, than apparently, you don't know how to use Google... It took me less than a minute to round this up:

http://www.minnpost.com/ericblack/2..._administration

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/gyrob...owFullText=true

Watch at YouTube

"White polluters are steering poisons into colored communities"

Watch at YouTube

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09-02-2009 10:18 PM  8 years agoPost 49
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You do realize that you just proved my point right?
What is your point anyway Ron? Am I supposed to believe that I actually offended 1st by calling him a drama queen along with Beck? I personally cannot think of a better description for Becks antics.

1st and I have typically tossed names at one another for quite some time without either really being offended.

You on the other hand have always made a big deal about it, whether you were the supposedly offended party or not. But for some strange reason, I'm the only recipient of your attention when it comes to this. Its like you don't have anything better to do than to monitor how I conduct myself in the forum and I must have missed the post where 1st called for the RR Hall Monitor to come and defend him from me. You people really need to grow some thicker skin.

But just in case:

@1stPlace

I apologize for calling you a drama queen. It was meant in jest and to make a point about Becks particular style of broadcasting with his crying and screaming and not really directed so much at you as it was at him.

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09-02-2009 10:19 PM  8 years agoPost 50
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Well, than apparently, you don't know how to use Google... It took me less than a minute to round this up:
Are these criminal acts?

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09-02-2009 10:38 PM  8 years agoPost 51
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@1stPlace

I apologize
No need... I know you are a harmless BUM!
Are these criminal acts?
I never claimed they were. Like I said, I'm not going do the research for you. I'll give you a hint though...
Obama's Tax cheats & Grifters

1) Tom Daschle
2) Geitner - Secretary of the Treasury
3) Gov. Richardson of New Mexico
4) Hillary/Bill Clinton
5) Leon Panetta
6) The woman efficiency expert (What's her name?)
7) Eric Holder
8) Charlie Rangel
9) Nancy Pelosi
10)Harry Reid
Former Dallas Mayor Ron Kirk, Obama’s nominee for U.S. trade representative, blew off the Internal Revenue Service for several years and has agreed to pay about $10,000 in back taxes now that his misdeeds have gone public.

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09-02-2009 11:01 PM  8 years agoPost 52
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No need... I know you are a harmless BUM!
No really, I honestly mean it.
Obama's Tax cheats & Grifters
1) Tom Daschle
Withdrew, never served.
2) Geitner - Secretary of the Treasury
Paid in full, no charges filed. Case closed
3) Gov. Richardson of New Mexico
Withdrew, never served.
4) Hillary/Bill Clinton
What about her?
Bill doesn't work for the feds anymore.
5) Leon Panetta
What about him? Confirmed by senate.
6) The woman efficiency expert (What's her name?)
Got me dude!
7) Eric Holder
What about him? Confirmed by senate.

What type of control do you believe that Obama has on these 3? He cannot fire them, they were voted in in their respective states and were already in office before he got there.
8) Charlie Rangel
9) Nancy Pelosi
10)Harry Reid
Ron Kirk
, paid in full, no charges filed, case closed.

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09-03-2009 12:03 AM  8 years agoPost 53
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Apparently, OCB was forwarded the video in the OP via email and couldn't wait to verify the information before posting it on RR and making a complete fool of himself.

Then, after having been embarrassed, he lowers himself to attacking those who pointed out his F up.

I laugh at you!

Out loud!

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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09-03-2009 12:22 AM  8 years agoPost 54
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Honestly, how gullible do you have to be to believe that he left the c out on purpose?
If you can believe that, then you shouldn't have any problem swallowing the rest of it.

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09-03-2009 01:01 AM  8 years agoPost 55
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You guys are so gullible.
Not really; but I AM apt to believe most everything I see, hear, and read.

Here's the entire, whole, and complete problem:

The administration, it its entirety, is smart; but the electorate, as a whole, is dumb.

Too dumb, apparently, to understand a very simple 1000-page "health reform act".

Probably any leader will tell you it's difficult (at best) to govern a dumb electorate. When you're smarter than everyone else, especially those in "fly-over country", it increases the burden on your rule.

This is too bad. Issuing decrees would be much better- and more fun.

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09-03-2009 05:25 AM  8 years agoPost 56
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No really, I honestly mean it.
Apology accepted... And, I will try to refrain from personal insults as well.
What type of control do you believe that Obama has on these 3?
He is the leader of their party. Why does he not hold them accountable?

As the Chair of the House Ways and Means Committee, Rangel is the most influential member of Congress related to taxing and spending. As we found out in September, Rangel decided that he was above paying taxes on rental income on some houses he owned in the Dominican Republic.

Paul, Pelosi's husband, owns $17 million dollars of stock in Starkist. During the debate for a Minimum Wage hike,one of the areas where they would not get a hike in the Minimum Wage was American Samoa, which conveniently would save Starkist Millions per year. In other words,she kept workers from getting higher wages,in order to do a favor for a Corporation,who also happens to be a significant Campaign Contributor.

Obama appointed Harry Reid's son Josh to fill the presidential appointee’s seat on the Tahoe Regional Planning Agency’s Governing Board. Nepotism and political favors, of course Obama expects something in return.
Honestly, how gullible do you have to be to believe that he left the c out on purpose?
Had you watched the show, you would have seen and heard Beck repeat "Just don't cal them Czars" several times while speaking about Obama's appointees. At the end of the program, when he left out the "C", I laughed. It was obvious that it was intentional; "Just don't call them czars". The only way you could miss it was to have not watched the entire program.

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09-03-2009 03:15 PM  8 years agoPost 57
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He is the leader of their party. Why does he not hold them accountable?

As the Chair of the House Ways and Means Committee, Rangel is the most influential member of Congress related to taxing and spending. As we found out in September, Rangel decided that he was above paying taxes on rental income on some houses he owned in the Dominican Republic.
WTF is Obama supposed to do about it? He didn't appoint him, he didn't help him get elected. He can't fire him or even censure him. Your beef is with the people of the state of New York that elected him.

Any action on Obama's part other than a stern word would in fact be unconstitutional. Are you suggesting that the president is somehow above the constitution because that is what you are suggesting.
Maybe it would have worked for Bush/Cheney but they are history now, thank God.

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Paul, Pelosi's husband, owns $17 million dollars of stock in Starkist. During the debate for a Minimum Wage hike,one of the areas where they would not get a hike in the Minimum Wage was American Samoa, which conveniently would save Starkist Millions per year. In other words,she kept workers from getting higher wages,in order to do a favor for a Corporation,who also happens to be a significant Campaign Contributor.
A total lie and a complete fabrication.
They own ZERO dollars worth of Starkist stock. Its nothing more than a stupid email forward and you fell for it hook, line and sinker.


Sorry Charlie!

Fact Check

This is the latest version of a falsehood that's been circulating since January 2007, when Congress was debating a minimum wage increase. The central claims are all wrong.

No $17 Million in Stock

To start, it's simply not true that Pelosi's husband owns $17 million worth of Del Monte stock, giving her a "corrupt" motive to aid the company. (Nor does he own such an interest in Del Monte's primary shareholder, Heinz, as alleged in some versions of this message.)

We traced this false claim back to a 2007 article in the conservative NewsBusters blog, which attributed it only to a single, unsupported sentence in Wikipedia's article on Del Monte. That's hardly an authoritative source. Wikipedia articles may be written or edited by any user, making the site notorious for its vulnerability to false entries, pranks and vandalism. NewsBusters editors later admitted that its claim "has not otherwise been verified" and that "there is reason to believe that the claim of such ownership interest on the part of Paul Pelosi is suspect." Actually, NewsBusters fell for a Wikipedia hoax.

The sentence about Paul Pelosi was added to the Del Monte Foods article on Jan. 12, 2007, the same day that the NewsBusters article was published. Within six hours, a Wikipedia editor flagged it as "not verified" and "unsourced" and then quickly deleted it altogether. Pelosi's 2007 financial disclosure statement, which lists between $9 million and $11 million in stocks owned by her husband, shows no StarKist, Del Monte or Heinz stock holdings. Neither do her 2006 or 2005 reports. Filing a false disclosure statement is a serious offense, carrying a fine of up to $10,000, and we've seen no evidence that Pelosi's report is inaccurate.

No "Major Contributor"

It is also untrue that Del Monte is a "major contributor" to Pelosi, or a contributor at all. The company doesn't rank among her top contributors in any year, and neither does the National Food Processors Association PAC, to which Del Monte contributes. A search of contribution records covering the last 18 years shows that Pelosi has not received any contributions of $200 or more from Del Monte or StarKist employees.

No Evidence of Favoritism

Stripped of the false claims that Pelosi stood to profit personally from her action, or that she was acting to favor a campaign donor, the e-mail's claim amounts to nothing more than accusing her of doing favors for a company located in her home district. That's pretty much what House members are elected to do. But even this claim rests on flimsy evidence.

It is true that StarKist Tuna was, until recently, owned by Del Monte Foods and headquartered in Pelosi's home district. On October 7, the company was bought out by South Korean conglomerate Dongwon Industries, which moved the headquarters to Pittsburgh. It's true that StarKist is a major employer in American Samoa, where tuna canning is a backbone of the economy. And it's true that American Samoa was exempted from the minimum wage increase that the House passed in 2007. But that's where the solid parts of this e-mail end.

It's not at all clear that Pelosi pushed to shield American Samoa from minimum wage increases. A spokesperson for Pelosi has said that the exemption was requested by delegate Eni Faleomavaega, who represents American Samoa in a nonvoting capacity. We can't say for certain that Pelosi had no hand in pushing the Samoan exemption. But there's no evidence that she did. For his part, Faleomavaega was vocal about his concerns regarding the impact that automatic minimum wage increases would have on the Samoan economy. Faleomavaega supported a minimum wage increase, but wanted Congress to work out a different way to improve wages in Samoa, one that would have less impact on the territory's economy.

Faleomavaega also criticized Del Monte for failing to respond to rumors that Pelosi was showing them favoritism because of their political contributions:

Letter to Del Monte president, May 11, 2007: Throughout the minimum wage debate, Del Monte has chosen to remain silent while Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has been unfairly attacked by Republicans who suggested that she received campaign dollars from you in exchange for lower minimum wages in American Samoa. As you know, neither Speaker Pelosi nor I have ever received or accepted one penny from Del Monte or Star Kist and a respectable company would have gone on record and made this known.

Once accusations of favoritism started circulating, House Democrats were under pressure to deny Samoa special treatment. In the end, a new bill was passed in which Samoa saw the same automatic minimum wage increases as the incorporated parts of the United States. In November 2008, StarKist laid off 20 workers and cut employee benefits at its Samoan cannery, citing "dramatically escalating costs" due in part to automatic wage increases.

Finally, the e-mail implies that Pelosi added a new credit for American Samoa's economic development to the bailout bill. In fact, the bill extended an existing development credit first established by the Tax Relief and Health Care Act of 2006. As Speaker of the House, Pelosi was instrumental in drawing up the House version of the bailout amendment, though records don't show exactly who wrote what. But the extension of American Samoa economic relief also appears in the Senate version, before it was sent to the House for consideration.

Other sources that say the exact same thing.

Snopes

About.com Urban Legend

Truth or Fiction

I thought you claimed to have researched what Beck says? If so I'm totally not impressed.

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Obama appointed Harry Reid's son Josh to fill the presidential appointee’s seat on the Tahoe Regional Planning Agency’s Governing Board. Nepotism and political favors, of course Obama expects something in return.
A: He's a non voting member, so he has minimal influence.
B: He's lives in that state and is completely qualified for the job and has previous experience.
C: Welcome to Washington!! I WANT a president that has favors to call in! That's how things get done.

Tahoe Bonanza

“I don’t think boards should be a rubber stamp for what staff does. Even though I’m non-voting, I plan on being a big part of the discussions.”

Reid received a bachelor’s degree in conservation biology from Brigham Young University in 1995, a master’s degree in environmental science from Yale University in 1997 and a law degree from the University of Arizona in 2000.

If Obama had appointed someone with 0 experience in the field just because he was Harry Reids son I'd have given you this one. But the guy is totally qualified and a perfect fit for the job.

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Had you watched the show, you would have seen and heard Beck repeat "Just don't cal them Czars" several times while speaking about Obama's appointees.
Who gives a crap what he calls them? Its a title the media ascribes to an appointment and has no bearing in the US political system whatsoever. Reagan started the trend and coined the phrase BTW and its nothing more than a phrase.
At the end of the program, when he left out the "C", I laughed. It was obvious that it was intentional; "Just don't call them czars". The only way you could miss it was to have not watched the entire program.
Uh huh, and everybody that saw it laughed too, only it was at him, not with him. He's the PeeWee Herman of broadcasting.

People make mistakes, its a fact of life. He should have manned up and admitted the mistake and laughed it off. But he knew his audience are a bunch of ignorant suckers that will believe anything he says and this proves it without a doubt.

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09-03-2009 03:29 PM  8 years agoPost 58
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WTF is Obama supposed to do about it?
He's the leader of the party right now. That "stern word" would be a good start. Better yet, how about having these idiots investigated. They've broke laws, it's common public knowledge. For Obama to ignore it, is disgraceful... But, I guess his proposals need their votes. So, let's just pretend it never happened...
A total lie and a fabrication of the truth. They own ZERO dollars worth of Starkist stock. Its nothing more than a stupid email forward and you fell for it hook, line and sinker.
Ok... I'll admit that I didn't research that one, just nabbed it off the net. I have not heard Glen mention it. But, I haven't listened to him for years.. Till' now.
People make mistakes, its a fact of life. He should have manned up and admitted the mistake and laughed it off. But he knew his audience are a bunch of ignorant suckers that will believe anything he says and this proves it without a doubt.
Wow... So, even though you don't listen to him, you claim to know what is going through his and his writers heads.

Tin Foil hat with ESP module installed? Hmmmm???

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09-03-2009 03:59 PM  8 years agoPost 59
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He's the leader of the party right now. That "stern word" would be a good start. Better yet, how about having these idiots investigated. They've broke laws, it's common public knowledge. For Obama to ignore it, is disgraceful... But, I guess his proposals need their votes. So, let's just pretend it never happened..
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I apologize, I thought you were referring to Rangel as leader of the party, my mistake.
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Besides, its between the voters in New York and Rangel, not Obama. His chair is between Rangel and members of Congress, not Obama. It came out during Bush's term, wheres his stern words and wheres your admonishment for him not giving it??? Wheres the remaining republicans corpses stern words? Where is your admonishment for them not giving it?

Also he is under investigation, not actually convicted or plead guilty yet, as there has been no trial.

You keep insisting that they sidestep the Constitution and skip the trial part and move right into the punishment part. Is that a Libertarian idea or something you and Beck cooked up on your own?

I'm dying to know how you, as a supposed Libertarian, can justify all your statements that are clearly unconstitutional.
Wow... So, even though you don't listen to him, you claim to know what is going through his and his writers heads.
I know a mistake when I see one. I've seen and posted half a dozen of his video's and transcripts where he either gets a point completely wrong, contradicts himself or goes total spaz when he doesn't have an answer. I refuse to listen to this Bozo other than his highlights where he makes a fool of himself and his viewers for believing him.

By all means. If you enjoy listening to him go for it. He probably does get a few points right now and then but the majority he gets wrong. I think he does it on purpose to pander to a certain audience, who without, he would be working at Best Buy.

But again, don't be surprised when people tell you that he's a useful idiot doing it just to get paid. He doesn't give a crap about you. If he did, he wouldn't stand up there and knowingly lie to you.

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09-03-2009 04:52 PM  8 years agoPost 60
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You keep insisting that they sidestep the Constitution and skip the trial part and move right into the punishment part. Is that a Libertarian idea or something you and Beck cooked up on your own?
Where are you getting that? I have never once said anything more than they should be investigated. If the investigation reveals enough for a trial, than that's what they should get...
But again, don't be surprised when people tell you that he's a useful idiot doing it just to get paid.
Hard do do without advertisers... Hmmm
He doesn't give a crap about you.
LOL Never thought he did... Why would I?
If he did, he wouldn't stand up there and knowingly lie to you.
And yet according to the Nielson ratings, Beck really did have over three million viewers last week. Now, why would that many people listen to a liar?

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