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08-31-2009 09:12 AM  8 years agoPost 1
Cdallas2

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Ordering some bits for my Hawk Sport after a crash.

Was wondering if I should upgrade it to the harder dampers http://www.centuryheli.com/products...I3181A¤tid=387 and add the spacers http://www.centuryheli.com/products...=&prtnm=HW3180B.

I'm new to heli's and just learing and this seems like a recommended upgrade, but not sure if I should do it now or later

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08-31-2009 09:45 AM  8 years agoPost 2
Frank Bostwick

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Go ahead and upgrade to the larger feathering shaft and the red dampers. Its a good low cost upgrade.

RIP ROMAN

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08-31-2009 09:55 AM  8 years agoPost 3
Cdallas2

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Any other upgrades I should consider at this time?

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08-31-2009 12:10 PM  8 years agoPost 4
Frank Bostwick

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I may not be the best guy to ask that one. My "Hawk Sport"has been upgraded all the way to a Raven. Basically a 50 size Hawk. But since you asked and in order.
Feathering shaft
Thrust bearings in main grips (I forget if this comes as part of the F.shaft upgrade)
Red dampers
4mm flybar
Driven Tail
Triple bearing tail blade grips
Ball bearings in the bell mixers, washout and tail pitch slider
Metal tail pitch plate
Raven boom and Torque tube
The rest of the Metal Bling can be skipped IMO but the metal tail grip kit is a good deal

BUT none of it is needed to have a good flyin' Hawk. Stock will take you pretty dang far.

RIP ROMAN

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08-31-2009 12:21 PM  8 years agoPost 5
Blade_Master1

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after you get it back in the air for a few months.
get this part for your heli
http://www.heli-world.com/detail.aspx?ID=9459

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08-31-2009 07:26 PM  8 years agoPost 6
imnxtc

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Upgrade items add up very quickly. So I would not spend a lot of money upgrading a Hawk. You will spend a lot more money upgrading one to the specs of a Raven then what it would cost you to flat out go and buy the NX-50 as BladeMaster1 pointed out. (heck the RT blades and CN3038B muffler alone add up to about 50% of that total!)

As you have the Hawk Sport, the upgrades you would need to bring it up to the spec of just the Hawk Pro alone, would be about as costly as getting a new Hawk Pro. Then you could keep some of the items from your Sport as crash parts for your Pro.

I have sent you a PM of some articles on the Canadian Century distributors site, that go into a fair amount of detail about the differences between the different helis. You can look up what it would cost to make these changes and decide from there.

The bigest improvement relative to any type of flight that entails inverted flying are the addition of the HW3180B spacers that you linked to.

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08-31-2009 10:30 PM  8 years agoPost 7
Blade_Master1

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there is alot of differances but they all fit

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09-01-2009 12:26 AM  8 years agoPost 8
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you didn't tell us you Flight Level ,, if your just hovering stick with the Stock Black Dampeners !!! or if you have not looped yet don't buying them,,

but if you are zipping around and looping and rolling then yes try them out, they are a inexpensive Upgrade that works..

Jim
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09-01-2009 01:07 AM  8 years agoPost 9
Cdallas2

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you didn't tell us you Flight Level
I'm new to heli's and just learning
I already have the dampers but was just curious to other things I should maybe consider as I have the whole heli apart right now.

In regards to the HW3180B spacers, some places say it's for a larger 6mm feathering shaft but it seems that the Sport and Pro share the same 5mm one?

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09-01-2009 04:09 AM  8 years agoPost 10
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edited

Spacer #HW3180B is for the 5mm Spindle (only), they tighten up the stock Black Dampeners,

because the Red Dampeners are so stiff I don't if the Spacers will work with them, I never tried them together, you will have to ask some one that has tried it..

as for upgrades,,
the 6mm Spindle is a must for a smoother flying heli and a smoother feel on the sticks,, but the Auto unit is a must for saving your heli from something going wrong like a Flameout,, plus~ Autos are just plain fun

Jim
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09-01-2009 12:05 PM  8 years agoPost 11
Blade_Master1

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the red dampner on a Hawk goes back together just like the black ones

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09-01-2009 06:12 PM  8 years agoPost 12
imnxtc

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The following is a quote from oldfart:

"The standard black dampers on the Sport, using the stock 5mm spindle results in the softest damping - great for training at lower head speeds as they will not result in bobbing at those speeds.

The red dampers with the stock 5mm spindle will result in slightly harder damping, better for aerobatics.

The black dampers with the stock 5mm spindle & the spacers (the stock Hawk Pro set-up) are a bit harder damping but isolate the dampers from the outer bearing better through maneuvers. Great for all types of flight except maybe the most extreme 3D.

The red dampers, with the stock 5mm spindle and the spacers, result in a very hard damping that will result in bobbing at lower head speeds (keep above 1750) and are recommended for use for the more extreme 3D type of flight if one has the power.

But for the more extreme 3D, where one is turning the rotor at over 1900, I would recommend one goes to the 6mm spindle upgrade that comes with the larger radial bearings and the thrust bearings...along with the red dampers."

But then IMHO, once you start from there, you might as well just go to the NX-50 which even has the better rotor hub and flybar system that can much better take the forces that occur during extreme 3D over the long haul.

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