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HelicopterMiniature Aircraft Whiplash & Fury 55 › MA posts NEW pics & description of the new Furion 50 on their site!
08-10-2009 05:00 AM  8 years agoPost 1
puma1824

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Found this announcement on Minature's site

Furion Nitro .50 Photos in Gallery

The first photos of the new Furion Nitro .50 are now posted in the gallery – Photo Gallery. Look under Glow Fuel powered helicopters.

Photos of the new electric version of the model will be posted shortly
Official Furion 50 pics posted here: LINK

From the pics it looks like parts count is way down from the prototype

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08-10-2009 07:10 AM  8 years agoPost 2
Knud Pedersen

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Looking Nice!

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08-10-2009 08:11 AM  8 years agoPost 3
QuantumPSI

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VERY VERY NICE! The helicopter looks very SIMPLE! And that speaks wonders for MA! I am very proud to see this level of simplicity on an MA machine! Kudos!

Now, MA has clearly improved the part count and complexity, now how about kit and part prices? ETA? Where's the Furion 90?

PS I want a TT

...now where was I, dh/dt = BS-dx/dt
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08-10-2009 08:33 AM  8 years agoPost 4
blbills

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That does look good. I'm anxious to get some flight reports. Too many good .50's to choose from...

Brian

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08-10-2009 02:12 PM  8 years agoPost 5
Hokie_Steve

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Looks great! Can't wait to fly one

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08-10-2009 03:32 PM  8 years agoPost 6
AaronJohnson

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It looks like they went down to a 3mm flybar in those pics. I know it was 4mm but Bobby wanted it down to 3mm.

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08-10-2009 04:55 PM  8 years agoPost 7
Hokie_Steve

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The headblock sure looks tiny compared to the grips. I wouldn't want to give up much strength there to save a few grams, but I'm sure it's been tested more severely than I would ever fly it.

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08-11-2009 03:25 AM  8 years agoPost 8
hootowl

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I like it!

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08-11-2009 05:05 AM  8 years agoPost 9
lfalsetto

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Definitely a lower parts count I wonder about the direct servo drive will it stand up for a larger heli. In the 450 it is fine but I thought that is why everyone went to bell cranks. However if it stands up to Bobby's flying then it will stand up to anything I can throw at it. Price? Delivery Date.

Also what BEC is he using on this?

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08-11-2009 05:18 AM  8 years agoPost 10
chopper_crazy

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I am anxious to get one and start the build. Any idea when the release is going to be???

It's a complex, costly, glow powered anti-gravity machine!

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08-11-2009 06:19 AM  8 years agoPost 11
puma1824

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Definitely a lower parts count I wonder about the direct servo drive will it stand up for a larger heli. In the 450 it is fine but I thought that is why everyone went to bell cranks. However if it stands up to Bobby's flying then it will stand up to anything I can throw at it. Price? Delivery Date.

Also what BEC is he using on this?
Direct drive should/will be no issue. From my understanding, MA pilots have been testing (hammering the crap out of them) both the 90 & 50 both with direct servo to swash setups. Other larger helis, such as all the Mikado Logos (600/500/400) have always used direct servo to swash with no issues. Personally I like the direct drive...less parts

The MA store lists it at $629.95. Not sure about delivery. Rumor is after IRCHA...how much after...don't know.

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08-11-2009 11:36 AM  8 years agoPost 12
Knud Pedersen

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Direct drive should/will be no issue. From my understanding, MA pilots have been testing (hammering the crap out of them) both the 90 & 50 both with direct servo to swash setups
Take a look on this answer from nick Maxwell:
A 1:1 Ratio is 1:1 no matter how the servo gets there, load wise (and in torque to the swash plate). Of course without the bell cranks, the wear is put on the servo/links more, instead of going though the bell crank bearings, support, rods and links, but with the servos we have today, its no problem at all. I am still running my orignal servos in my 90s since the start of trying out this new machine. I would guess one of mine has at least 25 gallons though it. The servos still perform great, feel tight, and even one of the models has been crashed and the servo gears didn't strip!!!!

I also wanted to at least just add that this model does NOT fly like the High Ratio Stratus. With the control geometry back to a mechanical 1:1, the heli tracks much better and be over all more locked in, also it takes out the mechinical disadvantage precision wise. With the CG, weight, head hight, and linkages the helicopter flips and rolls faster, and more axial, also you get an even crisper pitch responce.

The carbon support has been replaced with a very neat idea. When screwing the servos in the the frame a small graphite/carbon plate is sandwiched over the rubber grommets/inserts and stabilizes the servo.
http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/...8/?p=3689377#RR

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08-11-2009 12:10 PM  8 years agoPost 13
frebou

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Funny, many points in common with a RJX

BEAM - Beautifully Engineered Action Machine

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08-11-2009 01:19 PM  8 years agoPost 14
JohnDa

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Frebou,

What are the common points ?

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08-12-2009 06:43 AM  8 years agoPost 15
fiordaliso

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No Canopy pics? Any links?

I hope that MA will provide a prepainted one as this should be "state of the art" todays.

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08-12-2009 09:50 AM  8 years agoPost 16
hootowl

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Would like to see the clutch stackup.

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08-12-2009 03:26 PM  8 years agoPost 17
puma1824

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Quote from a MA Rep:

"The production model will come with a prepainted (and quite colorful) fiberglass canopy. They haven't come in yet so it couldn't be pictured with them."

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08-12-2009 03:28 PM  8 years agoPost 18
darkfa8

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i'd suggest titanium geared servos from Hitec or MKS to really hold-up over the long term.

of course the precision of the control system is going to fall entirely on how well matched the servos are.

interaction & slop in the servo gear-train is going to vary over the course of the servos' life.

but, i guess if you're buying a MA, money isn't as much an issue and you're going to buy the best servos out there, right?

nonetheless, i much prefer bellcranks for at least the sake of putting less stress on the servos and allowing the use of less expensive karbonite geared servos which overall will wear longer compared to straight metal gears. Though the titanium geared servos are proving to be damn near indestructable.

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08-12-2009 04:23 PM  8 years agoPost 19
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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Why belt drive, and why plastic grips?

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08-12-2009 04:30 PM  8 years agoPost 20
puma1824

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