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08-09-2009 05:35 PM  8 years agoPost 21
iceman320

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most likely I will be doing more sport flying than the hard core 3d stuff. I would like to learn the do the sport flying first anyway before I move up and try any 3d stuff. however I noticed that xheli is sold out of the exi 500 heli's is ther any other place thta sells them?

esky belt cp 450, just built exi 450 pro, trext 500esp, trex 600esp

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08-09-2009 06:20 PM  8 years agoPost 22
Heli_KV

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Ice, just terminology: sport flying includes: funnels, flips, rolls, loops, inverted flight, etc, refering to the definition of 3D, which you can find somewhere on RR. I belive nobody here presented video of 3D flight (except Doug maybe), correct me if I am wrong. I believe path in learning should be: some big 500 size heli, tammed down with low HS, just to get hovering and what people call 'orientation' (there is no such), piros including. 500 size is more stable, so it will help and defects in assembly (slopes, vibs are not that important). Think of winter time also. It is coming. You cannot fly 500 indoors, unless you have facilities. Then smaller but descent heli of no more then 450 class (I tend to 300 class), again tammed down, to get slow (sic!) ff, square patterns, then circles, funnels. Small in order to get stick time (you can fly it in backyard) and cheaper crashes (you cannot fly 500 size in backyard). Then - whatever you like - sport flying, F3C, scale... It will require more space and stick time goes down, unless you own a field.
At least that's what I did. I do not fly 500 anymore. It is shelf quieen now. I need stick time and cheap crashes at the moment. You can try to omit initial 500 size if you are OK with smaller helis.

EDIT: It is all my IMHO, based on my experience and in no way pretends to be the only way. I am just following this way. Maybe I could get better going somehow different. Age is great factor as well. My every flight I start from piros, otherwise it goes somewhere.

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08-09-2009 07:54 PM  8 years agoPost 23
iceman320

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so your saying to stay with the 450 size helis then

esky belt cp 450, just built exi 450 pro, trext 500esp, trex 600esp

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08-09-2009 08:01 PM  8 years agoPost 24
Heli_KV

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No. I just expressed my way. You need critically absorb people oppinion and find your best way. I did hovering on 500 size, then switched to 300 size (winter came).

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08-09-2009 08:05 PM  8 years agoPost 25
MMike

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I don't like to try new things on my bigger helis.

IMHO, learn new things on a 450 or smaller.

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08-09-2009 08:06 PM  8 years agoPost 26
toolman18

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I don't like to try new things on my bigger helis.

IMHO, learn new things on a 450 or smaller.
+1

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08-09-2009 08:23 PM  8 years agoPost 27
tryan02

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-1

see thats what heliKV meant by
No. I just expressed my way.
you need to find your way.

I have my TREX450SE sitting in a box cause I dont want to replace a main shaft and spindle. I'd rather fly my raptor30 and because of its bigger presence and much more stable flying. I practice all my basic sport maneuvers just flips and stuff on it just much much higher!!

No Really I am the club President!!!

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08-09-2009 09:02 PM  8 years agoPost 28
MMike

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Of course Tryan's right, but...

Opinions are worth considering as you decide what direction to go in.

It only has to make sense to you. We all have different circumstances.

1. Flying experience / Propensity to crash.

2. Money for repairs.

3. Time / Ability to make repairs.

4. Flying area size. (I do most of my flying at home)...

This is why I included "IMHO" in the first place.

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08-10-2009 12:42 AM  8 years agoPost 29
Melnic

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I don't think any method is prefect for everyone.

+1 on the idea that $$ and Time is a factor.

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08-10-2009 12:46 AM  8 years agoPost 30
Melnic

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BTW, Closest thing I hear to the EXI is the Flasher 500 from snhobbies. I comes w/ Torque Tube and I think blades for around $200 or so shipped. (I think)

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08-10-2009 02:14 AM  8 years agoPost 31
tryan02

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You should never fly with your wallet it takes the fun out of it.

Let us not forget its also what you get accustom to.

I missed the 500 size heli anybody want to loan me one?

No Really I am the club President!!!

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08-10-2009 03:31 AM  8 years agoPost 32
toolman18

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I missed the 500 size heli anybody want to loan me one?
Theres plenty of them on the classifieds. Go get ya one.

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08-10-2009 10:33 AM  8 years agoPost 33
MMike

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Now don't tell him that Toolman.

He's likely to go buy one now!

Let him find his own way.

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08-11-2009 12:57 AM  8 years agoPost 34
toolman18

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08-11-2009 01:11 AM  8 years agoPost 35
tryan02

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I would buy a 500 Align of course cause they make the best heli's.

But they dont have a cash for clunkers yet I would trade my TREX450SE in on one.

No Really I am the club President!!!

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08-11-2009 01:20 AM  8 years agoPost 36
MMike

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But they dont have a cash for clunkers yet
I like that idea!

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08-11-2009 04:26 PM  8 years agoPost 37
dyuen888

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Melnic,
BTW, Closest thing I hear to the EXI is the Flasher 500 from snhobbies. I comes w/ Torque Tube and I think blades for around $200 or so shipped. (I think)
Its actually $200 USd with a flat shipping rate of $10 - no more free shipping. I was up in the area last month and purchased one. I'm
in the middle of build and no problems yet (stripped screws...). All metal head/rotor, FG blades and Torque tube tail - overall not a bad deal.

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08-11-2009 10:13 PM  8 years agoPost 38
DougsRC

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But they dont have a cash for clunkers yet I would trade my TREX450SE in on one.
tryan, I'll trade ya a "wicked sweet" POS pixy zoom zap gaui wanna be EP 100 for the TREX carcus

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08-11-2009 10:48 PM  8 years agoPost 39
tryan02

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I dont know about that dougie just 3 servo gearsets, flybar, main shaft, spindle, tail fin and a new belt would be ready to go again. May put it back together for an indoor flyer.

Since cash for clunkers hasnt moved into the RC hobby yet.

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08-12-2009 03:49 PM  8 years agoPost 40
Melnic

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I flew the EXI 500 this morning. I'm finally starting to put it through it's paces. This thing has enormous amount of power w/ the Turnigy 500H motor and 6S pack. And that's with it toned down to 10 pitch and 85% max throttle.

I did some HUGE stall turns and giant loops with it. Bigger loops and higher stall turns than my buddies T600 or my TT e550. I'm still using the cheap $19 fiberglass blades on it. I"ve gotta get some vid of them sometime soon. I still am getting used to the cyclic response and the power of this thing.

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