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12-29-2009 08:11 PM  7 years agoPost 21
LonR

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That Raptor clone thats called the " Klone " is the biggest POS ive ever flown.Sure its a little lighter and this is why,the plastic is like rubbermaid,the whole heli is.My buddy has a bunch of extra "rubbermaid" Klone parts and I could flex the crap out of the main/tail grips,frame.The tail blades flex so bad you could get a boom strike from the tail blades,well it might not be that bad but its pretty bad haha.Rubbermaid containers are stronger than every plastic part on that heli.If anyone has ever ordered the cheap parts from helikraft they know what im talking about because them are the same parts the Klone is made from lol.I bet the Walkera nitro heli is better than the Klone .Ive never make fun of any heli but that Klone is a flying rubbermaid trash can.Put some main/tail blades and motor on a rubber trash can and fly I guess .

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12-29-2009 08:29 PM  7 years agoPost 22
NitroAl

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Grow up!! Both of you!!!

HillBillybob, The answer is yes, in collins hands in the same conditions would p!ss all over it!!

TooHightofly450, I didn't get any plastic parts with my conversion kit except ball links that are no more crap than the TT ones!

FANBOYS NEED NOT RESPOND!!!

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12-29-2009 08:53 PM  7 years agoPost 23
CBell

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NitroAl,

Let me respectfully disagree with that statement. I flew an eCCPM (con)version of the SE a few days ago, and it is no quicker than the stock model I'm flying now. To be honest, I prefer the mechanical setup. Believe it or not, the eCCPM helicopter was actually not as crisp. Probably because the servos were slightly slower.

A properly designed system, be it mechanical or eCCPM, will fly very well. A poorly designed system, regardless of what it is, will fly sloppy and slow. Provided it's designed correctly, the control system of a model doesn't make a noticable difference in how it flies. The rest of it does.

All the best for the 2010 flying season.

Colin

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12-29-2009 08:58 PM  7 years agoPost 24
Billebob

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Actually you can max the SE head out on the SE just like you can with your clamp-on kit, however the interaction issue is where the difference lay. So what did you really get for your money?

The thing is the SE helicopter is designed as a unit where as the aftermarket is basically an adapter. Furthermore the swashplate is also an adaptation of something intended for another purpose. That is why I said it is mickey mouse.

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12-29-2009 09:02 PM  7 years agoPost 25
LonR

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How can someone be a "fanboy" if they don't own a Raptor ?So you put perfume on a pig,thats what your saying haha.You tell us to grow up but call us names ,your not the brightest crayon in the box.

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12-29-2009 10:48 PM  7 years agoPost 26
NitroAl

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So not a level playing field then Colin? Servos, blades, motor/pipe, setup, etc
Physics is physics, a lighter heli is a lighter heli and not at all a (con).

Billybob, I got everything I pay'd for and NO interaction with a properly set up 140deg eCCPM, a lighter heli and something different and not at all bad!

Perfume on a pig? When did I say the Raptor was a pig? The raptor is a great heli, never would I call it a pig!
If you don't even own a raptor then stay in the blade 400 forum where you know what you are talking about. You have the cheek to run down gear you have never owned and then insult me saying I am not very bright. How is it I can afford all these heli's plus all the other things I do? I can assure you it's not because im not very bright!

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12-29-2009 10:56 PM  7 years agoPost 27
CBell

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Yes, it was a level playing field, other than the servos being .02 of a sec. slower. If you think eCCPM makes the R50 fly better, and you're happy with your conversion, that's what counts. We're all in the hobby for the same reason; to have fun.

I didn't find it to make the model fly any better. I just wanted to make it clear that an eCCPM conversion will not "p!ss all over" the heli I'm flying now.
The answer is yes, in collins hands in the same conditions would p!ss all over it!!
Regards,

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12-29-2009 11:08 PM  7 years agoPost 28
NitroAl

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OK Well said Colin. That was a bit of an over reaction with "reaction" being a key word!
I wont bother to return to this thread so I cant get wound up about any responses from other persons.

C.Bell has spoken

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Alex

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12-29-2009 11:25 PM  7 years agoPost 29
LonR

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NitroAl
Perfume on a pig? When did I say the Raptor was a pig? The raptor is a great heli, never would I call it a pig!
I wasn't talking about the Raptor ..
If you don't even own a raptor then stay in the blade 400 forum where you know what you are talking about. You have the cheek to run down gear you have never owned and then insult me saying I am not very bright. How is it I can afford all these heli's plus all the other things I do? I can assure you it's not because im not very bright!
Your a funny guy,I do own a Raptor and I have owned others.Your the one that don't own a Raptor,maby you should post in a clone section being as the Klone is NOT a Raptor and its NOT made by TT.Your in the TT section with a clone trying to say its better LMAO.Your right about me not owning a Klone,after flying my buddys I would never own one.Its a cheap made,over priced "clone" of the Raptor.How I know you don't own a Raptor is because I told you a while back on HF you should of bought a Raptor Titan "SE" but you said the Klone is wayyy better LOL..I didn't insult you,I don't like that heli so that has nothing to do with you.Insulting someone is name calling like you did so like I said,your not the brightest crayon in the box.

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12-29-2009 11:26 PM  7 years agoPost 30
LonR

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NitroAl
I wont bother to return to this thread
He will be back LOL..

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12-31-2009 11:47 AM  7 years agoPost 31
PJRono

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We wish you weren't Mr FlyinHigh540.

The I've had both. The mechanical setup is easier to setup. The eccpm setup has less parts (at least my TPPacks conversion does) but takes more time to setup properly. As far as the Klone, I've never seen one in person so I wouldn't know. I don't think there's any advantage to the eccpm system over the stock mccpm, except less parts. The best thing to do for a Rappy is get the new SE head and mixers, and speed up the tail with the 8T tail pulley.

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12-31-2009 02:22 PM  7 years agoPost 32
tsokasn

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Hello PJRono!
You mentioned the tail rotor speed up with the 8T tail pulley.
I have never heard it before.
Can you give me some details?

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12-31-2009 02:23 PM  7 years agoPost 33
PJRono

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It's an upgrade available from TT or you can order it from Gohbee.

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01-30-2010 12:07 PM  7 years agoPost 34
skyjeep

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Hi ! That`s my conversion Raptor50=>CCPM140

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01-31-2010 03:10 PM  7 years agoPost 35
tsokasn

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Very nice move!!!

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01-31-2010 04:29 PM  7 years agoPost 36
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You can do anything with a R50,then you can with a eCCPM Helicopter.Spending alot of $$$ trying to improve a Helicopter aerobatic system that doesnt need it= BIG WASTE OF CASH!You want a different flying Helicopter!Go Flybarless,believe me,your going to need a change of underwear at the field.Try to consider new technologies on the market before spending money on eCCPM.Theres lots of good eCCPM Helicopters on the market,if thats what you want,and if thats what you want?Why look at a R50?

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01-31-2010 07:17 PM  7 years agoPost 37
skyjeep

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2 ZAC ATTACK : I think , what $60 for this set is not so big waste of cashe. Anyway - it`s cheaper, then to buy a new heli.

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01-31-2010 07:33 PM  7 years agoPost 38
PJRono

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Trying to do something different is a good thing. It's also part of the fun of the hobby. It's a very nice conversion, close to the TPPacks conversion. Good Job!

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01-31-2010 10:10 PM  7 years agoPost 39
ccpm raptor

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[quote]Trying to do something different is a good thing. It's also part of the fun of the hobby.

Agreed

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02-02-2010 08:45 PM  7 years agoPost 40
skyjeep

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Hi ! Next part of my conversion kit Raptor50 => CCPM140 - new CF servo frame is received from rc-carbon . Frame`s weight ~50 gr with bolts/nuts. Three shelfs are have enought place to install two servos, all other equipment and battery.

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