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HelicopterAlignT-REX 600N › starter woes, need suggestions on my set-up.
06-07-2009 01:42 PM  8 years agoPost 1
ACKopter

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I'm posting this here rather than the equipment area mainly because it pertains to my newly acquired 600n and I need to get to know everyone as I'm certain I'll be needing more help as I get farther along. If you havent figured it out already I'm a noob with a few months experience with a 450 and absolutely no nitro experience.

I have an OLD tower hobbies starter I thought I could use and went and bought a new battery for it. There are no markings on the starter other than "Deluxe Starter", 12V and the battery is a hobbico 12V 7A starter battery. I charged the battery overnight using a 12V 600mah wall charger. When I tried to spin the heli over it does not have the power to spin it.

This starter was used to start 40 size plank motors and did so with ease and I fully expected it to handle the OS50 but it seems to not be the case. At this point I'm unsure if I need a stronger battery or a stronger starter.

I dont mind using the old style battery in the flight box set-up and am not looking for self contained starter/battery combo's but would like everyones opinion on my current set-up and suggestions on what to do to improve it.
Thanks, Chris

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06-07-2009 01:57 PM  8 years agoPost 2
ttrap-ys91

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that starter should work fine.
Make sure that the motor is not hydro locked. pull the glow plug and turn over. then install glow plug and it should work.

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06-07-2009 02:04 PM  8 years agoPost 3
greenboot

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Is it a new battery? Sometimes those lead batteries get weak after a year. Also make sure the connections are tight.

Tom

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06-07-2009 02:43 PM  8 years agoPost 4
ACKopter

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Brand spanking new battery. ttrap had it right, I pulled the plug and spun the motor then put the plug back in and it spins no problem.
Note to self, next time I clear a motor, remember to put a rag in front of the head!.
Thanks for every ones help. Rest of my goodies should be here middle of the week so I'm sure I'll have a few more Q's,
Chris

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06-07-2009 03:03 PM  8 years agoPost 5
hm_oliver

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I shut down using a fuel clamp, I find this help prevent a hydrolock which is often caused by remaining back pressure from the muffler, even when the engine is shut down.

A trick I was taught on my TT-53 when it hydolocks is tilt the heli at 45 degrees towards the muffler and start it. This sometimes clears it. Not sure if it works with an OS-50

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06-07-2009 03:28 PM  8 years agoPost 6
Raptorchief

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I hate to be the one, but that battery is not going to do it for you, On my starter I use 2-7 cell batteries 3300 mah hooked in series. Try hooking that starter to a small tractor type battery or your vehicle battery and it will start it just fine.

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06-07-2009 03:56 PM  8 years agoPost 7
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Raptorcheif,
By small tractor I guess you mean a lawnmower size battery? I'm limited in battery size as the compartment in the field box is somewhat small. I could squeeze a motorcycle/lawnmower battery in there if you think it would be a reliable alternative.
As a note my "small" tractor battery probably weighs around 60lbs or so if not a little more. Dang sure don't want to tote that thing around. Then again my personal version of a small tractor might be a tad larger than most other people. Did I mention that I live in an agricultural area?

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06-07-2009 03:59 PM  8 years agoPost 8
Zaneman007

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I use a 12 volt 5 amp gel cell. Some guys will put a couple of them in series to get 24 volts are in parallel to get 10 amps.

Also, I had hanger 9 starter. It lasted about a year, and died. Sullivan is the way to go. IMO

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06-07-2009 04:12 PM  8 years agoPost 9
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I can do a lot of things, however, understanding electricity is not one of them. Wouldn't running a 12V starter @ 24V burn it out almost intstantly? IDK and thats why I'm asking. I can understand upping the amps, just not the voltage.

I fall under the category of "budget" flier and am trying to avoid as much expense as possible and the Sullivan is rather costly for my taste.

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06-07-2009 04:23 PM  8 years agoPost 10
FlaG8r

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If you want to wake up that old starter, simply get a 3S 2100 or so Lipo on it...will easily start your 600N and last for SO long before you have to charge it. Although the 3S is only 11.1 V, it works great.

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06-07-2009 04:49 PM  8 years agoPost 11
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FlaG8r,
I could probably swing that with one of my batts from the 450 when one starts to tire out.
Do you fly over at the field in Mayport? I've been wanting to head that way one weekend to check it out but its quite a drive, probably 120 miles or so. Do you know of any fields to the west of J-ville as that would be alot closer?

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06-07-2009 05:06 PM  8 years agoPost 12
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http://www.jaxrc.com

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