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06-05-2009 07:30 AM  8 years agoPost 21
Dood

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To those who have flown both:

How would you compare the flying characteristics of an Edge 540 to a Cap 232?

I am aware that the Edge is a highish- Mid wing, and the Cap 232 is a Low wing.

There is a local here who modified his Edge 540, lowering the wing slightly. He calls it his "Cap-Edge", says he gets the best of both worlds.

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06-05-2009 07:44 AM  8 years agoPost 22
ShankBones

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Edge 540 and a Cap 232 are two totally different flyers.

The Edge is much easier and more overall forgiving due to the wing's airfoil and no dihedral. Great for sport and 3D.

The Cap 232 is more of a circuit sport flyer and a tip staller at low air speeds and way harder to 3D, that's if you can even get it to do 3D.

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06-05-2009 07:48 AM  8 years agoPost 23
altima1779

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Of the two, skip the cap. I have seen a few of those tip stall and crash on landing in the hands of lesser pilots.

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06-05-2009 07:55 AM  8 years agoPost 24
Dood

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This local guy with his modified "Cap-Edge", he harriers that thing all over the field, inverted & upright.

He likes to do what he calls "harrier landings".

I haven't seen his plane tip stall.

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06-05-2009 08:03 AM  8 years agoPost 25
ShankBones

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Dood This local guy with his modified "Cap-Edge", he harriers that thing all over the field, inverted & upright.

He likes to do what he calls "harrier landings".

I haven't seen his plane tip stall.
The mod kinda makes the Edge more like an (edit)Extra 330L. If he just lowered CL(center line) of the same Edge wing with "O" dihedral, he still has a great 3D Planker.

Not to be confused with the Cap 232 wind design, 3 to 6 degrees dihedral and CG and CL points and there is also an incidence displacement difference.

Here is an interesting link on plane types:
http://www.quicktechhobby.com/artic...ning_to_fly.htm

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06-05-2009 03:48 PM  8 years agoPost 26
buzzsaw

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Dood,all those are 40'sLove it also,the new 50cc stuff is just plum off the hook now-a-days though.The new wildhare 50cc edge is one lil stellar machine.lil 3D'IN fool!

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06-05-2009 04:07 PM  8 years agoPost 27
buzzsaw

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How would you compare the flying characteristics of an Edge 540 to a Cap 232?[/I]
The Edge540 is just one off the hook 3D'IN machine as I can surly vouch for that,I have also owned 2 40% carden caps aswell.The thing I liked most about the big caps is they tumble across the sky with very little effort.The edge takes a little bit more input out of the knief edge position,you almost have to stall the wing from that point to get the tail come over.The Cap is alot more sinsitive in the tork roll.Harriers are about the same upright or inverted.The Cap wins out abit in rolling harriers over the edge,I just advance the rudder a little quicker or use less expo To compensate for that.I really do not have a whole lot of input on the smaller airframe but do have well over 1000+ flights on the bigger machines.I just like the bigger presentation.I think what ever one you choose,your sure to have a blast either wayDo like I do,Wring the crap out of your edge/cap half the day and pull the 700 out and bang on the for the other halfThats just me knowlol!

Dave

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06-05-2009 04:23 PM  8 years agoPost 28
fastlif

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nothing beats a Jet crashing. too funny.

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06-05-2009 05:01 PM  8 years agoPost 29
HydroJoe

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Helis are really cool & all, but maintenance and upkeep is crazy. They require so much concentration to fly it can take a lot of the enjoyment right out of it.

Getting ready for a day or weekend at the field can require the entire evening prior to just in preperation.

Sometimes I feel helicopters can be a chore and not a hobby.

Heli's crash all the damn time and cost a ton of money to fix.
Then they drink a ton of fuel which isn't cheap either.

Yeah, I could totally get into planes.
I started feeling the same way back in Dec so I decided to get a Stryker foamie. Not nearly as nice as what your looking at but still really fun (90+ mph on 4s.) Not only is it easier to fly, but if I wad it up, it will only cost around $40 for a new one. That in itself, makes it a joy to fly.....no worries. The stuff your looking at looks pretty expensive but should still be more relaxing to fly than helis.

Just don't forget about your helicopters. I actually have taken a break from my Styker cause I started neglecting my helis. After taking a "planking break" i'm back into helis more than ever.

T-Rex 450 SE V2 , T-Rex 600 NSP, Stryker F27 C....Yea, it's a plank.

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06-06-2009 02:23 AM  8 years agoPost 30
stargazerww

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hey do yall know of any really good sites that would be equal to RR but for big planes

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06-06-2009 02:24 AM  8 years agoPost 31
Dood

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What would you (anyone) say is a good price tag for a 100" Edge 540 nicely outfitted?

Not necessarily with a DA-100, but maybe the next best thing...

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06-06-2009 02:24 AM  8 years agoPost 32
GimbalFan (RIP)

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do yall know of any really good sites that would be equal to RR but for big planes
Y'all might wanna check Flying Giants.

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06-06-2009 03:17 AM  8 years agoPost 33
ShankBones

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Dood
What would you (anyone) say is a good price tag for a 100" Edge 540 nicely outfitted?

Not necessarily with a DA-100, but maybe the next best thing...
Here is a great 100cc 106" ARF airframe by Aero-Works. Available in the yellow and orange paint scheme. Your looking between $3000.00 to $3500.00 RTF.
Scroll down and you will see most of the gear to outfit the ARF.

http://www.aero-works.net/store/detail.aspx?ID=382

Just for kicks, here's an economy version of the Edge 540 50cc 84" class ARF. This is the base color for the Red Bull scheme. This one you could be looking about $2000.00 to $2500.00 RTF.

http://www.nitroplanes.com/ed5450nircpl.html

PS: Everyone I talk to in all the clubs I fly, all said to get the DA and be done with it the first time out. You'll never need another engine.

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06-06-2009 03:22 AM  8 years agoPost 34
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Watch at YouTube



Finally learned to fly inverted, Helps if you stand on your head

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06-06-2009 04:00 AM  8 years agoPost 35
ShankBones

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Wow Jugger! Thanks, this vid had me on the edge of my seat when they did the pilot eject maneuver, Bell X-1 drop and land, then the invert flyby.

At the end, it had me jumping and clapping in my seat with joy..

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06-06-2009 04:42 AM  8 years agoPost 36
Dood

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For those that buy a lot of used planker stuff, would you say plank stuff holds it's resale value better or worse than heli stuff?

Heli stuff doesn't do so well on the used market.

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06-06-2009 10:12 AM  8 years agoPost 37
PJRono

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Rule of thumb is half price or so if it's been kept up nice. Sometimes less, sometimes more.

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06-06-2009 03:00 PM  8 years agoPost 38
buzzsaw

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For those that buy a lot of used planker stuff, would you say plank stuff holds it's resale value better or worse than heli stuff?
Dood,it really depends on the mfg products,(example)Carden,Troybuilt,CompArf,Krill just to name a few brands,are all high end machines and do hold most of there overall value,like wise with DA and 3W on the engine side of things.However you really have to watch what you by today mainly with the cheaper ARF's and cheaper cloned engines.And by todays standards and all the economy related scenarios,you will take a beating on what ever you try to resell.I rememeber 4/5 years ago,or maybe a little longer back,if you wanted a custom build airframe and power plant,use Carden only as an example here,you would pay approx 5/6k for a 40%er and then you would have to gere it up with everything else and before you know it,you have 8/10k totally invested,not hard to do either if you want the best of everything.Fly it for a couple of seasons,sell it and recoup most of your doh back.It is a said truth,but these days you will be lucky to get half of that back from what you invested.This also apply's to the heli world aswell,New or Used!!This is just my opinion on things and not trying to start a rant by any means at all.

Dave

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06-06-2009 04:38 PM  8 years agoPost 39
midwestpilot

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Sad to say.. but that particular B29 is no more
had an untimely death.. He came to one of our air shows with it many years ago.. very cool... did not have the ejecting pilots at the time.. just the X-1.. did the same deal...glide the x-1 to the ground and then lit it off... I would like to see more scale.. release from the b29 and the lite it off and watch it accelerate away from the plane..

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06-06-2009 07:42 PM  8 years agoPost 40
PJRono

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I thought he had built another to replace it?

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