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06-03-2009 01:11 AM  8 years agoPost 1
USNAviationjay

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Well just traded my T600N Pro for a N9.
So by early next week I should be a Synergy owner as well as my first .90 ever.

Well it's coming near RTF will just need an Engine.

He said its got the YS Hatori pipe for it already so will need a new YS motor.
He said he flew it with a YS in it but is not sure if it has the 16T pinion or not.

any tips or suggestions would be great.

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06-03-2009 01:20 AM  8 years agoPost 2
Bart B

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Welcome!You'll like the YS

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06-03-2009 01:23 AM  8 years agoPost 3
thenewguy

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Take your time and go through the whole helicopter. You don't want to crash because you did not check someone else work.

Take it all apart piece by piece and inspect it. Rebuild it to your liking, then have the best time in the world flying it.

Glad to here you are part of the club.

Chris

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06-03-2009 01:23 AM  8 years agoPost 4
Steff Giguere

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I agree but the YS but you will also love flying the N9

Team Synergy, Rail blades, Team Scorpion, V-Team

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06-03-2009 02:49 AM  8 years agoPost 5
Entityofme1

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You will like the N9. It may give you some headaches along the way as it seems most 90's often will, but once you get familiar with how the machine wants to be set-up it is very fun to fly. I don't think any other 90 machine has as impressive of a presence in the air as the N9. At first you may find it a bit intimidating and odd due to it's size and speed but eventually you begin to appreciate it. As far as the intimidation aspect is concerned I highly recommend staying intimidated by it as this machine should be highly respected with it's abilities. Hope you have fun with it.

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06-03-2009 02:56 AM  8 years agoPost 6
USNAviationjay

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Thanks for all the suggestions.
yah I always tear down new aircraft that i buy/trade for re-locktite everything as well as replace all links usually.
Will be putting in some HyperRings right away as well.

Yes .90s do demand respect I have flown other peoples before and my flying style ( heavy sport) seems perfect for a larger aircraft I can see at high altitudes and long distances.

I fly a long ways out big patterns with loops rolls inverts and learning tick tocks and rainbows as well as reverse patterns and invert patterns and love to auto! =D

What are the pros and cons of the different blade sizes I see that 690s and 710s are for the most part exactly the same price.

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06-03-2009 03:03 AM  8 years agoPost 7
Mark C

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Hows about a second airframe for a fraction of the price

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06-03-2009 03:35 AM  8 years agoPost 8
USNAviationjay

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Pmed ya Mark maybe bring it this weekend so I can take a gander and we can discuss it.

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06-03-2009 06:02 AM  8 years agoPost 9
Fastsrt

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Put the 710's on her

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06-03-2009 09:19 AM  8 years agoPost 10
ch-47c

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I agree go with 710s and it autos so well. I use Radix 710 Standards. I have SB but I like the rotor inertia in the STD much more. With the YS 91SR and the Hatori SB19, it accelerates like a rocket. At the very least buy a Hyper-Sizer tool $15. You said you like big manuevers, I think you will really like this heli as it flys like a pattern airplane so big manuevers are easy to see and it tracks similar if not tighter than my Vibe 50. Big presence in the sky. The stock parts aren't too expensive for the most part, except the main gear $50, crown gear $40, and the one way Sprag $95. When you set your gear mesh, set it tight. No backlash or you will strip a gear quickly. Set it tight and let it wear in. Parts sources are limited compared to other helis. Heli Proz South usually has what I need in stock.

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06-03-2009 08:15 PM  8 years agoPost 11
USNAviationjay

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More good info ch47!

I usually fly Radix as well but I really liked the RT610s on my 600N are the 710s good as well? with Cosflaws being out of stock means I'm buying a set of good blades for full price and the RTs are a bit cheaper.

That gear mesh info is concerning.

I may see if I can get Creighton to help me with it since he had several N9s last year.

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06-03-2009 08:39 PM  8 years agoPost 12
Jag72

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Synergy
I LOVED my Synergy when I had it

It was one of the BEST flying machines I ever had...that was until it crashed...then it was painful...lol..that is not a cheap heli to crash...as long as you do not crash or strip gears you'll be fine.

the tail mesh does need to be set correctly just like a min Air or else you'll be replacing the 45$ crown gear on a regular basis...

Does the Synergy you're getting have any Hyper upgrades on it?

There are a few that I though really helped...I used to fly my Synergy back to back with my Aurora alot and I think the Synergy flies every bit as well...maybe even a bit more solid and smooth than the Aurora...but the Aurora flies lighter and faster..

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06-03-2009 08:48 PM  8 years agoPost 13
USNAviationjay

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http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t518731p1/

here is the deal.
it has the HyperLevers on it and some kasama pieces.

Kinda scaring me with the high parts cost.. I'm bgeinning to understand why so many that flew them last year went to 700s locally here.

alot of those parts are 3-4X the cost of the 700N..

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06-03-2009 09:03 PM  8 years agoPost 14
Jag72

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Parts Cost
I ended up trading my RTF Synergy for a RTF RJX 50

We were both happy with the trades...but ultimately the high cost of parts is why you can find a Synergy for DIRT CHEAP.....it's almost impossible to get any money for them...you practically have to give them away ....

And that's because the average guy flies and crashes...and in the end it's much cheaper to maintain an Align...If the Synergy is just going to be a part time flyer then you're fine

BTW...that Airframe has some nice upgrades...the tail is a nice setup...that's what I had on mine...

If you keep it you may want to look at the hyperdive as well

Anthony

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06-03-2009 09:07 PM  8 years agoPost 15
USNAviationjay

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well what are we talking about 400-500 dollar crashes? Ive got other birds and this would be my Only 90 and prolly be used pretty tamely.

He said its got he ends already for the hyperdrive just need the shaft itself to put it in.

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06-03-2009 09:18 PM  8 years agoPost 16
Jag72

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My Crash
I was doing some tail dragging tic tocs and I decided to take my hand off the collective to flip from stunt 1 to stunt 2

well...I was a SPLIT second too late...lol..

Funny thing is that I buried the tail in the ground and hit the collective and the boom just clean snapped off and theheli landed down on it's skids...

Very little damage...as you will see in the pics

Main blades
tail blades
boom/hyperdrive
All the tail gears
and misc tail parts

Total cost---OVER $400

A buddy of mine was there when this happened...he can attest to the fact that these pics were taken without moving the heli at all
This is how it landed...or should I say "crashed"


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06-04-2009 12:53 AM  8 years agoPost 17
USNAviationjay

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well I don't usually count blades in crash costs since they are a given..
so that's still a 275 dollar crash. I'll prolly use KBDD tails on it as well as Cosflaw 710s once they finally get restocked.

275 for a minor crash well thats still pretty steep I dunno man.. /knock on wood I haven't crashed a 50 since I had my first flame out and learned to auto.. so hopefully will go at least a year without it seeing dirt =P

500 buck crash wouldn't kill me.. wouldn't make me happy either but its not out of my means.

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06-04-2009 07:16 AM  8 years agoPost 18
ch-47c

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Use whatever blades you like, but I think 710s are the best size. As with any .90 size heli it will auto and you can pop back up into a hover and land again. I agree with you, blades are a given in any crash. I really don't think most of the stock parts are that expensive in comparison to other helis with a few exception as mentioned before. It's a very tough heli. I've crashed mine twice and both times it was the usual main blades and flybar. One crown gear, one SAB paddle, one tailboom, one vert fin, and one main shaft bearing block. between the two. The blades, paddle and crown gear were the killer parts, but every crash has an expensive part.

The gear mesh isn't anything major, but you need to be more heads up when setting the mesh compared to other helis. I once set the pinion to main gear with a little backlash intentionally. When I did my first take-off, I cobbed the power to about 50 ft and it wouldn't climb anymore, but the engine was screaming. I had stripped the main gear and had to do an auto back. $50 for the gear. I put another in and set it tight, but not so tight it clicks with each tooth. It had a few little shavings from wear-in, but it works great and last a long time.

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06-04-2009 04:12 PM  8 years agoPost 19
USNAviationjay

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ah OK CH! thanks for that description on the gear mesh.
I will pay very close attentions to it.

Its due here on Monday so tear down and reassembly will be later next week.

Still need to pick up the engine and a few other nik naks for it.

waiting to see the aircraft to decide exactly what needs to be upgraded/replaced before I go nuts on it.

The trader said he wasnt sure on the gear ratio if it had been set for the YS or not so may have to order the 16T pinion as well before I can do anything.
will be counting teeth as soon as it arrives so I can get my engine/pinion/pipe stuff done asap.

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06-04-2009 10:23 PM  8 years agoPost 20
ch-47c

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Stock gears fine with either YS or OS according to Todd Bennett. He said with YS set govenor to 1850. It has no problems keeping up.

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