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12-18-2013 03:35 PM  3 years agoPost 13741
skybob

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this time of year its a snow nap

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12-18-2013 04:46 PM  3 years agoPost 13742
aterren

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@scott and rich

Yes know the furions are HV set ups and E5 can go either way. Was more asking about the fit, finish, and flight characteristics. I like the size and idea of a 550 / 600 size but the protos seems to fly smoother / better than the Align 550. I looked at the E5 closely before getting the Trex and am thinking about giving one a try again.

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12-18-2013 05:09 PM  3 years agoPost 13743
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I can only comment on the 550 vs F6.

Fit and finish better on the MA.
Flight characteristics are very different. The F6 has obscene amounts of power with the -560 and 12S...its 10-12S machine vs 6S. Power to weight (with batteries) goes to the F6.
Parts are more expensive for the MA and sometimes are back-ordered
F6 flies better but you need to fly it all the time, can't sit back as it is lightening quick to respond.

There are minor things to be done to the 550 to make it fly better. What do you not like about it?

You can fly the F6 as a 6S, but it really does not shine in that configuration.

Again, the 550 is the 520-550 "Chevy" of helicopters.
The E5 is really intended to be a small 600 with the ability to be 6S, 8S, 10S, even 12S. It's not the family car, so to speak.
The F6 is a large 600, meant to swing 620's and really designed for 10S or more.

E5 to 550 is more of a fair comparison, but even then you're comparing a heli for the masses to a sports car.

Hope this helps.

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12-18-2013 07:45 PM  3 years agoPost 13744
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I myself like oranges over apples

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12-18-2013 08:06 PM  3 years agoPost 13745
buto651

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I like a good fresh cherry

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12-18-2013 08:35 PM  3 years agoPost 13746
aterren

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Scott, all consistent with what we have discussed before.

Certainly for 2x the price I would expect the Furion and E5 to be better quality. As for the power difference that is really the builder's choice rather than an airframe characteristic (assuming the airframe is stout enough). To a large degree 6 vs 12s is a choice too. Early on the furion was marketed as 6s and many of us have seen the E7 flown on 6S too.

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What I was wondering is whether there is a specific handling difference that stood out in the 550 vs e5. Maybe this is just a useless question because it is hard to describe heli flight characteristics. There are just too many variables. To run with the car analogy, i could drive a Toyota Camry and a BMW M3nand talk about the differences in steering feel, feedback from the suspension, power delivery, brake feel, and of course number of admiring looks from the ladies . These differences would be easy to characterize and would likely match your observations if you were to drive the cars (except the Italian Jew would get more looks from the ladies). It is hard to do the same for helis.

As for my 550, I can't put my finger on any one thing that I don't like. It has been reliable. The only part I've broken is 1 skid. No bad habits. I have probably 150 flights on it and just don't connect with it like I do the 500. It is not as smooth / quiet as the protos maybe that subtlety affects performance or psychology? The protos has a lighter disk loading too. The reason I keep exploring this is because I feel there is something to be learned by understanding these differences regardless of whether they are mechanical or mental.

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12-18-2013 08:46 PM  3 years agoPost 13747
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One belt to run the system will always be quieter and smoother than a TT system. The TT system has 4 places where the gears mesh. This creates noise. Connection, on the other hand, has to do not only with the mechanicals, but the set up and FBL system too.

You are more than welcome to fly by F6 and 550. Both our 550's will fly very different for the above reasons. Let's fiddle with it and see if we can get it to fly better to your liking.

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12-18-2013 09:08 PM  3 years agoPost 13748
new guy Rich

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Wow e5s furion6 550e i have/had them all and
I can say this with certainty, the 550e had the best looking canopy of the three.

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12-18-2013 09:42 PM  3 years agoPost 13749
aterren

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That would be fun And potentially educational Scott. I'm happy to toss the protos and E7 into the comparison mix too.

It will be a while though as I'm laid up with a cast. Figures Sunday looks to be very nice!

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12-18-2013 09:51 PM  3 years agoPost 13750
new guy Rich

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@A on a seriuos note cant compare 550e with either of the others smaller lighter disc loading ... but its still a fun and reliable heli. The other two personal choice, the furion was always an easy reliable maintainence free heli that has great flight qualities, and never had a complaint. The E5, I dont think out of the box would be a good 550 class heli, its just too large, larger than the furion and towering over the 550e; hence the reason I immediately stretched to 600 class. What i can say is with the 1/2 doz flights i do have on it, it will be at the field every time im there. It is very very smooth responsive and flying on 10s. 3 head speeds so as greGG would say slow and low or wild and crazy.
If you want you can check mine out up close and personal before purchasing. You wouldnt be disappointed except the canopy is ugly LOL.

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12-18-2013 10:09 PM  3 years agoPost 13751
skybob

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can i try the synergy also, I never flew anything but align and eflite and raptor , I want to feel the difference, Of course I will need to rest fly the diablo also

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12-18-2013 10:14 PM  3 years agoPost 13752
new guy Rich

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Yes bob you can as long as you sign the crash agreement

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12-18-2013 10:27 PM  3 years agoPost 13753
skybob

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Sure i will , no daring stuff ,I would like my next 700 to be a little more botiuqe

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12-19-2013 12:00 AM  3 years agoPost 13754
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Just maidened GreGGs 800e in the snow in the dark with no snow nap , BIGHELI

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12-19-2013 12:14 AM  3 years agoPost 13755
aterren

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Nice! Any photos?

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12-19-2013 01:51 AM  3 years agoPost 13756
buto651

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Here are a few photo's

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12-19-2013 02:25 AM  3 years agoPost 13757
Nycatt

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Crash Agreement Rule of Thumb

If you ask to fly someone's aircraft and you crash, it's your obligation to repair it.

If someone offers you to fly their aircraft and you crash, all bets are off.




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12-19-2013 02:30 AM  3 years agoPost 13758
skybob

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so I should wait for Rich with one h to ask me to fly the Diablo

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12-19-2013 02:43 AM  3 years agoPost 13759
Nycatt

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Yes wait for ricH to ask you.......




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12-19-2013 03:45 AM  3 years agoPost 13760
buto651

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Big thanks to Boobie for a night of Heli fun. Finished the setup I started on my T-REX 800E then some indoor flights with the micro quad followed up with a quick night flight between the trees

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