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03-22-2009 02:25 AM  8 years agoPost 1
slider46

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Ocala Florida

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Hello gang it's been awhile since I visted here. I met a guy the other day and wants to get into Electric heli for around 500. bucks. I haven't had time to research it, I'm building a 55" bud light cat boat so the helis have been collecting dust all winter... I'm getting close to painting it so the helis will get some attention. He is going to need everything and I want to make sure he gets something that he can grow into.
This is what I've been building all winter....

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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03-22-2009 03:03 AM  8 years agoPost 2
TJinGuy

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That my friend is not an easy question to answer. Or better put is a question with many answers. Much depends on what the pilot expects and what the pilot has at his disposal. If the Pilot has lots of help, say from a friend that flies helis, then he could build one from scratch. But if the pilot is mostly on his own, then maybe a pre-build RTF would be best.

I personally think a 450 class heli is the best place to start. They are cheap, plentiful, pretty forgiving to setup issues and flyable pretty much anywhere. So anything from a King3 to a Blade400 to a Rex clone would do.

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03-22-2009 03:16 AM  8 years agoPost 3
tryan02

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this is not an answer to the question just my opinion.

Well heres my other side of the coin. Start with a .30 nitro only cause its cheap used price but $500 will be tough to do with any heli you know with buying good electronics. bigger heli much easier to fly than small electric. And I know my raptor can go from mild to wild with just some tuning in the head and more nitro content fuel.

I too am thinking of a gas weedeater boat slider they look fun.

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03-22-2009 03:40 AM  8 years agoPost 4
slider46

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Ocala Florida

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T You can't believe the power from a 26cc motor, stock it will put out over 3 HP and modified it is 5+ HP. These things scream at 17,000 to 20,000 RPM and can run in the 50-80 mph range depending on the hull type. MY new cat should run just under 70 mph once it's setup right.... Let me know when your ready to go to boats, I think there is a club near you that races every weekend too you should go check them out....
As for the nitro I don't think that will work for this guy as he wants to fly in his yard .....

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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03-22-2009 04:10 AM  8 years agoPost 5
zaw

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Its depends on how much you want to be in the hobby.. some people just don't have enough patience to work on Heli's, they're more involve then boats and cars with crap load on mechanical linkages. They crash and there will be broken parts and it can get expensive.

If you get large expensive heli the replacement parts will be expensive. If you invest on expensive ones then later you find out its not for you and don't feel like messing with it you will just waste money like my friend did, $800+ on multiple heli and blade400 RTF.

For me I'll start with something cheap and easy to repair like HBK3 and see how things goes well for you then get a nice machine with good electronics and a Transmitter.

People who started with Small Heli's and went to bigger ones forgot that, they have learn all of the basic of flying on small cheap heli's.

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03-22-2009 07:26 AM  8 years agoPost 6
BOB WHO?

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I'd recommend a slightly used DX6 or DX7 and a used name brand 450, like a trex. He could get everything except batteries for about $500 from the classified here or ebay. Stable, cheap to fix, and he could fly it in a backyard.

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03-22-2009 08:27 AM  8 years agoPost 7
Rogerm069

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I agree a Mini Titan, or a Trex 450 are cheap and stable, and I would check to see which one the local hobby shops stock parts for.
I just bought a new DX7 off a guy on ebay for $170 new, and if you want one email him. He is RCExperts.

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03-22-2009 03:36 PM  8 years agoPost 8
BOB WHO?

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I also bought a new DX7 on ebay for the same price, different seller. A high quality product like those mentioned hold up in a crash much better than budget helis, fly better, fix easier, track better; they are a better deal for all reasons. Advise your friend to go with any established brand that appeals to him. The used market is flooded with them right now. There are some really good deals out there. I bought a nearly new trex v2 airframe with all the metal stuff here on RR including the esc and xl motor for $250 plus some extras. How do you beat that?

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03-22-2009 06:12 PM  8 years agoPost 9
slider46

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That is what I was thinking, find him a good used package on a trex and maybe a radio too. That way he can fly with good equipment from the start... I wasn't sure if the market had a new super starter heli. I don't think he would want to deal with all of the upgrading with the ceapo RTF combos out there.....

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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03-23-2009 04:49 AM  8 years agoPost 10
BOB WHO?

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It took a long time for many of us around here to learn that, slider. I'm one of them.

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03-23-2009 01:30 PM  8 years agoPost 11
Melnic

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Columbia, MD,USA

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Although they did not have coaxials when I was learning, I think that if you have an open indoor area or a garage or carport, the first heli should be a 4 channel Coaxial. It will get you started and they are really stable and forgiving. They are less than $100 and he can often get that w/ a spare battery and blades. 10-20 flight in my opinion and learning to handle all 4 sticks on a coaxial coupled with a $20 simulator box will save at least a few crashes due to disorientation. He can decide to jump to a 450 next or a fixed pitch. But He's gotta have the space in a nearly windfree environent for that. If not, bigger is better but more $$$

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03-23-2009 02:04 PM  8 years agoPost 12
fenderstrat

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Aston,Pa

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wow,the e-sky forum.and nobody recommended an e-sky heli,very interesting

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03-23-2009 03:03 PM  8 years agoPost 13
Melnic

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Sorry!
Esky Lama V3 for my coaxial suggestion.

Looks like Zaw mentions the HBK3.

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03-23-2009 03:30 PM  8 years agoPost 14
TJinGuy

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I mentioned the HBK3.

- Chris

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03-24-2009 12:41 AM  8 years agoPost 15
fenderstrat

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yeah but it seemed everyone was like"you really need a 450" but, IF YOU HAVE TO,get a HBK3

if you understand what I'm saying...wasn't anybodys first choice
I personally think a 450 class heli is the best place to start
I remeber a time where if this same question was posted,you would have had 10 answers saying HBK or beltcp

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03-24-2009 12:50 AM  8 years agoPost 16
tryan02

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Why cant an E-smart be a good beginner heli?

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03-24-2009 01:26 AM  8 years agoPost 17
zaw

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hell with that.. just go just for Raptor or Vibe 90's

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03-24-2009 01:44 AM  8 years agoPost 18
TJinGuy

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Socorro, NM - USA

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I have never and will never recommend a Belt-CP. The King has its own place in the world but the Belt bumps into the other 450s. If you are going to go with a heli that size, just get Rex or Mini or clone and never look back.

- Chris

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03-24-2009 02:50 AM  8 years agoPost 19
tryan02

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Canton, Missouri

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E-fest year this year I was really surprised the TREX and Mini were few. The furion and beam are the new kids on the block flown by most 3D guy's. I was surprised how last year was align, align, align and this year they were scarce and hard to find and when you did it was a 250. I guess thats align's reason for the new 450?

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