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03-21-2009 03:11 PM  8 years agoPost 1
toolman18

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And my heli. I believe the battery decided to die on me in flight. I was 4 minutes in and had looped and came out of the loop just fine when the tail just started spinning. I held it while it did piros. Finally i realized it was not going to recover because of the low headspeed. Not exactly sure what happened but the battery was still at 11.6 when i checked it. The only part i dont have is the pitch link. Ill have to make a run to Rons heliproz. They are awesome people.

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03-21-2009 03:54 PM  8 years agoPost 2
bah7566

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That is a pretty good record. Too bad about the crash but it doesn't look very bad.

I am a Heli addict!!!

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03-21-2009 03:58 PM  8 years agoPost 3
Mundale

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yea i would have to say for not haveing ne tail control u looked like u faired just well kudos... i usly crash soft to but only because i had alot of practice at it.... (and i mean alot lol )

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03-21-2009 05:00 PM  8 years agoPost 4
Navigator53

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Not sure if you lost ALL power.

When I did, turns out I had soldering flux on the deans causing it to lose connection.

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03-21-2009 05:12 PM  8 years agoPost 5
Flying Brian

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The way it is explained to me is, the Voltage reading after flight means nothing. The cells could still be flat and no good...

I hope Im wrong to, as my cell reading are 11.490 and 11.500 after flights. But they do seem to loose there omf after 4 minutes.

"I just don't Listen" "

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03-21-2009 07:10 PM  8 years agoPost 6
toolman18

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Yeah. When it was coming down piroing, i just kinda let it fall once it got about 2 or 3 feet. Nothing else i could do. Damage doesnt appear too bad.

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03-21-2009 07:31 PM  8 years agoPost 7
3Dx

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2 and 1/2 year record
What record??? No crashes???

Team JR/Spektrum, Team Vibe, Team CYE, Team Next D/Rave, Team Outrange Batteries, Team RedFox Fuel

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03-21-2009 08:33 PM  8 years agoPost 8
Jlerch

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So, while it was pirouetting, you could still control collective and cyclic? IF so, you still had enough power to run the Rx and servos. IF that's true, then its not a pack problem, but a gyro / tail servo problem.

Alternatively, if the BEC was intermittently giving power to the Rx, then the gyro would keep rebooting, and yea, the tail would spin.

In any event, if you had any control, then I would not expect it to be a defective or discharged pack. If the battery went weak, the ESC would shut down the motor, no motor = no torque = no reason to piroette.

This is what it looks like when the battery lead falls off:

Watch at YouTube

Basically, the bird just nosed up, killed head speed, then fell out of the sky..

James Lerch - Tampa Bay FL

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03-21-2009 08:56 PM  8 years agoPost 9
zaw

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my record is less then a week. Its usually my fault.

Twice dean connectors fell out, everything looked ok, so I put it back in air and i guess one of the blade was internally damaged and blew out in the air sucks.

Rebuild, re solder new deans and these are pretty good.. I use thinner gauge solder with less heat. but they started to be flaky. gotta get some Real Deans.

ಠ_ಠ HBK2 built with inexpensive parts! ٩๏̯͡๏)۶ Gaui425

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03-22-2009 01:13 AM  8 years agoPost 10
toolman18

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What record??? No crashes???
Yes no crashes in 2 and 1/2 years.

Thats interesting that you say that it could be a servo gyro thing. You are probably right. I know the headspeed was dogging and the tail was spinning. I did have control of the servos cause i was making adjustments to keep it from falling off from a level descent. Maybe the tail blew out because of the low battery and the gyro had reset. I really dont know. I just hovered it and the heli is solid. Maybe better than before. To windy to get a full flight test in.

Its back together again. I had most everything. Ill let you guys know what i find when im able to get a full test in.

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03-22-2009 01:47 AM  8 years agoPost 11
flustercluck

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Dude, you must be livin right. No mechanicals either??????
Sheesh what a rabbit's foot.

oh yeah
Rons heliproz. They are awesome people
1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1 on that. They're the best.

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03-22-2009 01:50 AM  8 years agoPost 12
toolman18

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I guess the heli gods had forgotten about me. At least they took it easy on me this time.

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03-22-2009 02:26 AM  8 years agoPost 13
flustercluck

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I guess the heli gods had forgotten about me.
Would that they had amnesia about yours truly!!!!

Hey man not to hijack your thread here, but in terms of flying and taking the heli's home in one piece, this gives me a thought about putting up a poll:

Title:

"Do you fly 'not to crash' (same as playing "not to lose"?), or do you fly 'ballz-to-the-wall' to improve, and screw it if you crash??

Guess which one I am

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03-22-2009 02:53 AM  8 years agoPost 14
diioia13

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I have 2 1/2 FLIGHTS without a crash

"Its Never Too Cold To Fly"

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03-22-2009 03:34 AM  8 years agoPost 15
toolman18

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"Do you fly 'not to crash' (same as playing "not to lose"?), or do you fly 'ballz-to-the-wall' to improve, and screw it if you crash??
I must admit.....I havent taken to many risks until lately. I dont have the time to fly everyday so i just take it easy. But i am doing loops and flips easily now. I was warming up when i crashed. The next battery was going to be nose in inverted hover.

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03-22-2009 04:49 AM  8 years agoPost 16
chopper_crazy

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Ill have to make a run to Rons heliproz.
If you literally mean run to Rons Heliproz, you are one lucky guy to have a local place like that. Everytime I have a yard dart, I have to wait for a mail order place to send me my parts.

It's a complex, costly, glow powered anti-gravity machine!

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03-22-2009 06:17 AM  8 years agoPost 17
rcjon

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toolman,

2.5 years and that's the best crash you can do??

LOL

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03-22-2009 01:40 PM  8 years agoPost 18
toolman18

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Yeah Rons is about 20 minutes away.
2.5 years and that's the best crash you can do??
Ill have to do it right next time.

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03-22-2009 01:46 PM  8 years agoPost 19
bosshoss

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That is nice to have Ron's so close. It would make me whip my whipping boy harder.

I have had only 1 dumbthumb crash of my nitros in almost 2 years.

Now the 450 class that is different story, I try EVERYTHIng on it , and have 4 rebuilds on it.

Having a store like Rons nearby, the ratio might be a LITTLE different. ....lol.

Why Hover a Yak, when a Heli does it better?

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03-22-2009 05:20 PM  8 years agoPost 20
predatorman

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Well, battery packs can tell lies!

On my Gasser the original pack that come with it died on me, The voltage indicator told me that all was well...it wasnt.

Lucky though, was hovering doing a power check (I always hover for a minute or so just checking and listening for any unusual noises) when the throttle would close...built in FS kicking in.

The way to check packs is to do a bench check, ie load the pack and monitor the voltage drop.

Maybe you can do this with your Lipo pack?

Quality takes........time!

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