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03-22-2009 03:12 AM  8 years agoPost 21
Dennis (RIP)

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Carter is still the worst post WW2 president...Arguably the worst ever.
Whats to argue about?

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03-22-2009 04:04 AM  8 years agoPost 22
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Well, We have a new contender!

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03-22-2009 04:25 AM  8 years agoPost 23
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Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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03-22-2009 05:03 AM  8 years agoPost 24
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Carter is still the worst post WW2 president...Arguably the worst ever.
I would argue he is the worst...period.

I still have 2 cans of his brother"s beer....Billy Beer from Fall City Brewery.

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03-22-2009 05:14 AM  8 years agoPost 25
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Carter is also the worst ex president as well when he sticks his nose in Muslim countries where he does not belong.

That type of conduct over rides any good he might be doing otherwise in my mind.

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03-22-2009 12:40 PM  8 years agoPost 26
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Here is a list of presidential ranking that I found; it is more difficult to find a list that I thought because there few up to date(2008) lists.

32. Jimmy Carter

1977-81 (Democratic)

Our panel only just left him out of the bottom ten, making him their 11th worst President.

33. Millard Fillmore

1850-53 (Whig)

Fillmore crept into the bottom ten because of his abject failure in solving the slavery crisis.

34= James Garfield

1881 (Republican)

The second shortest Presidency after William Harrison’s 32 days but the panel still prefers him to Nixon. Garfield was shot by Charles J. Guiteau, a disgruntled office-seeker who had been overlooked by the President just four months after his inauguration. He died two months after the shooting.

34= Warren Harding

1921-23 (Republican)

When Harding died suddenly after two years in office, he was a popular President. The economy had rebounded after the post-war lull and his low tax, small government attitude had many admirers as the US roared into the twenties.

After his death, however, the scandals emerged. Harding may not have profited directly but he seemed to have known that many of the friends he had appointed to the administration were up to no good. Court cases, suicide, bribes, fraud and lengthy jail sentences clouded his reputation in the years after his death.

36. Herbert Hoover

1929-33 (Republican)

Terrible timing or massive mismanagement? Our panel goes for the later. Hoover came into office at the start of 1929 when the economy was apparently booming. Within months the Wall Street Crash meant he was doomed to years of struggling through the Great Depression.

Hoover’s policy proposals included slum clearance, prison reform, pension increases and tax cuts for low-income families but he failed to enact any of them and was routed at the next election.

"Unwittingly turned the 1929 crash into a global depression which weakened democracies and prepared the ground for the Second World War." Camilla Cavendish.

37= George W. Bush

2001-2009 (Republican)

A dead heat between the unpopular Bush and the dastardly Richard Nixon.

The September 11 attacks, eight months into his presidency, created a central focus for the Bush administration that lasted into his second term. Bush responded by declaring a “war on terror” and leading military invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan as part of his doctrine of pre-emptive military action. The lengthy operations have plummeted in popularity throughout his time in office.

Domestically, he implemented tax cuts and the “no child left behind” education programme but has been criticised for his failure to deal with the impact of Hurricane Katrina and the collapse of the US financial market.

"Bush Jr. invaded Iraq based on faulty intelligence and then catastrophically mismanaged the war, dragging America's name through the mud." Chris Ayres.

37= Richard Nixon

1969-74 (Republican)

Nixon’s dramatic, if controversial, escalation and conclusion of the Vietnam War and successful diplomatic missions to China and the Soviet Union ensured that he won a landslide re-election after his first term - carrying 49 of the 50 states.

Just two years later, he was forced to resign in disgrace after White House tapes suggested he had covered up a break-in at the Democratic headquarters in the Watergate Hotel.

"Cynical manipulation, bringinging the presidency into disrepute and changing the language to the extent that even a whiff of scandal merits the suffix '-gate'." Ben Macintyre.

39. William Harrison

1841 (Whig)

Harrison only lasted 32 days as President so our panel struggled to push him very far up the table. He had unsuccessfully stood as the Whig candidate for the White House in both of the previous elections and was eventually sworn in, aged 68, as the oldest President until Ronald Reagan.

40. Martin Van Buren

1837-41 (Democratic)

Served as Andrew Jackson’s Vice President and made it clear he wanted a continuation of many of his predecessor’s policies, including the expulsion of Native Americans from their homelands. The draconian Indian Removal Act was passed by Jackson but brutally enforced under Van Buren.

41. Franklin Pierce

1853-57 (Democratic)

Pierce was one of the few presidents to be abandoned by his own party after a single term. Pierce became hated for signing the Kansas-Nebraska Act, which was designed as a compromise between northern and southern states but was seen as kowtowing to slave power. Furious opposition to the act spawned the Republican Party.

His credibility was further diminished by the Ostend Manifesto, which advocated the annexation of Cuba, prompting domestic and international scorn when it was leaked.

42. James Buchanan

1857-61 (Democratic)

A poll of American historians recently selected Buchanan’s failure to prevent the American Civil War as the greatest single mistake made by any president and our panel agree that he was the worst ever President.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/ne...ffset=36&page=4

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03-22-2009 02:07 PM  8 years agoPost 27
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Was this a panel of Comedy Central "experts"? And...
If Garfield made it on after being President for only 32 days why isn't Obama on there yet?

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03-22-2009 03:04 PM  8 years agoPost 28
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Garfield's term has been over for some time, while President Obama's hasn't finished yet. I don't totally agree with the poll either Reagan should be below Clinton. However Carter doesn't warrant to be placed at the bottom of the list either.

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03-22-2009 05:30 PM  8 years agoPost 29
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Acually I don't care about the presidents from before I was born as i can't testify to their records.
But Carter was definatly the worst since WW 2. Clinton will be compared to Harding if the truth ever comes out and to me Nixon is one of the best for ending the Deomcrat's war in Vietman before they could send me there. He also normalized relations with China before that became a war so history isn't being really fair to him.
Also it seems that Hoover's presidentcy is eerily like Obama's so far.
And while were at it Bush went to war with the same info that congress had and then voted for it too.
Most of which came from our allys and the UN.

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03-22-2009 06:49 PM  8 years agoPost 30
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Nixon's ending the Vietnam war does not overcome the disgrace he brought upon himself. He is the only president to resign because he would have be thrown out of office if he had not resigned. Clinton's fiasco with Monica does not distract from the fact that he ran the the country successfully. "Based on Congressional accounting rules, at the end of his presidency Clinton reported a surplus of $559 billion."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton
As far a normalizing relations with China, the lopsided trade practices the country is seeing now is part of the reason the economy is in the pits.

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03-22-2009 06:53 PM  8 years agoPost 31
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Clinton's fiasco with Monica does not distract from the fact that he ran the the country successfully. "Based on Congressional accounting rules, at the end of his presidency Clinton reported a surplus of $559 billion."
The only way Clinton had that surplus is because he did the largest single tax increase in US History during that time frame.

Bush had to fix that with his tax cuts. Then, the Republicans in the Senate and the House lost their way and started spending like Democrats do.
As far a normalizing relations with China, the lopsided trade practices the country is seeing now is part of the reason the economy is in the pits.
Thats bull. The Nixon years were simply to long ago to affect what is happening in today's economy. Other issues are coming into play. Like the Bush/Obama bank bail outs and borrowing from China to cover our debts. Thats the biggest issue.

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03-23-2009 06:46 AM  8 years agoPost 32
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Just remember that Carter had the "misery index"

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03-23-2009 06:58 AM  8 years agoPost 33
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Yeah, and now we will have the Obama "Misery Index" times 2.

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03-23-2009 08:57 AM  8 years agoPost 34
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I don't know, Carter was one of the worst Presidents ever. He was and is a fine Christian gentleman but was a horrible president, totally unprepared for the job.
Sound familiar?
Yes. What does his religion have to do with being the President? Not a requirement. He is the worst President in history. He destroyed our country. I know you disagree, but you were only 16 years old when he was voted in.

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