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HelicopterHIROBOOther › sceadu 50 can do 3d?
03-21-2009 10:59 AM  8 years agoPost 1
blackbird

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hi, i have a sceadu 50 (HPM) and i'm thinking to start learning 3d, my set up right now is, 9252 x3 , gy611-9256, radix blades, os hyper and outrage muffler, so i want to ask if my heli can do 3d and if i need any changes, thank you.

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03-21-2009 12:07 PM  8 years agoPost 2
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Yes, yes it will.


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03-21-2009 01:06 PM  8 years agoPost 3
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Yep, it sure will. Its not as light or snappy as the Trex 600 but it will 3D just fine.

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03-21-2009 01:13 PM  8 years agoPost 4
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That heli will take you from learning to hover all the way to 3d with no issues!

Man, I miss the eighties.

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03-21-2009 01:16 PM  8 years agoPost 5
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If you can do 3D with a Sceadu,a Trex600 would be 100 times easier.

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03-21-2009 03:12 PM  8 years agoPost 6
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Video shows a capable 3D heli

I found this video of a guy doing some very sooooooth 3D with his Sceadu. Not sure what his set up is but its FUN to watch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjmcDmkvzyM

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03-21-2009 03:15 PM  8 years agoPost 7
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so i want to ask if my heli can do 3d and if i need any changes
Heck yes, it'll do 3D! There are some things you can do to make the model more responsive. What has worked for me so far are:

1. Upgrade the tail to use the Freya hub/grips. This increases the tail authorithy significantly and will prevent tail blowouts even if you bog the head to very low headspeeds.

2. Use a 3D-type vertical fin (or just cut out the stock plastic fin) and take the horizontal fin off altogether. This increases the piro rate and makes the model more predictable during backwards moves. It also makes flips a bit faster.

3. Adjust paddles. Running the stock paddles with no weights gives you the quickest cyclics, but at the expense of the model tending to pitch up at very high speeds (for example, when flying in high winds or when coming out of loops). I run with very light weights in my paddles. I cut some pieces of flybar material and use them for weights, installed in the front position instead of the lead weights. Running with just these weights gives very quick cyclics while keeping the "flies on rails" behavior the Evo is known for.

4. Consider a longer flybar. I've been running a 440mm flybar for a month or two now and like it a lot compared to the stock flybar. Both MA and Align sell 3mm flybars that are 440mm long. The longer flybar increases hovering stability while also increasing the overall roll rate at full cyclic deflection. The combination of longer flybar and lighter paddles seems to give the best results.

5. Make sure that you are running the seesaw with the mixer arms in the "high mobility" position. This is the inner hole.

There are some other modifications that people have tried such as customizing the mixer arms, using the inner hole on the blade grips, etc. The nice thing about the Evo is that there are number of adjustable settings so you can make changes to fit your flying style.

Leif

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03-21-2009 03:54 PM  8 years agoPost 8
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The Sceadu will do 3D right out of the box if you make sure your curves are set properly. It is perfect for beginner 3D and a great way to save some extra cash for the NEW 3D HIROBO SDX down the road.

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03-21-2009 07:49 PM  8 years agoPost 9
blackbird

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thank you guys, i'm going to do all that things and changes to my heli , so long i 've try to do some soft 3d and it seems like my heli was too heavy and thinking to buy a trex 600 but if it's ok for the begining i'll stay with my sceadu for now!!!

thanks again all.

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03-22-2009 11:12 AM  8 years agoPost 10
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5. Make sure that you are running the seesaw with the mixer arms in the "high mobility" position. This is the inner hole.

There are some other modifications that people have tried such as customizing the mixer arms, using the inner hole on the blade grips, etc. The nice thing about the Evo is that there are number of adjustable settings so you can make changes to fit your flying style.

i want to ask if i make this changes ,i'm going to change some things in my tx , like curves etc. ??

thanks.

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03-22-2009 12:55 PM  8 years agoPost 11
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One of the best things you can do to liven up the evo 50 is install Freya mixing arms on the flybar seesaw. You will need to trim there length a little but thats easy to do! re-check your pitch curves afterwards because it will change a bit due to the new geometry! And hang on to your hat because it will take you by suprise how responsive it will be!

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03-22-2009 12:56 PM  8 years agoPost 12
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oh and stick with the outer hole on the blade grips!

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03-22-2009 07:11 PM  8 years agoPost 13
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ok thanks for the tips, another question ........do i have to make it swm ,is that better??

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03-23-2009 02:17 PM  8 years agoPost 14
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ok thanks for the tips, another question ........do i have to make it swm ,is that better??
No you do not. Either version will fly very nicely. With SWM, you much be more careful in your setup to get a level swashplate and to avoid interaction. With the HPM, set up is simpler.

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03-23-2009 02:21 PM  8 years agoPost 15
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ok, i'm going to do the changes and tell you, thanks all!!!!!!

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03-26-2009 11:11 AM  8 years agoPost 16
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does it mater if i use the inner or the outer hole in the wash-out cntrol arm? and also the same question for the collective pitch lever wich one of the 3 holes is better for 3d?

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03-26-2009 12:57 PM  8 years agoPost 17
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Its fine to use the outer hole on the lower mixing arms, It gives more throw! And with the collective lever i would use the hole closest to the main shaft which will increase pitch travel.

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03-26-2009 01:52 PM  8 years agoPost 18
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The EVO's great to start 3d on but I've found that it just feels too heavy in comparison to my 600e. I know there's a difference between the two disciplines but I did wonder if it's holding me back.

Are you guys having to rev the nuts off the 50 in order to make it more spritely?

I'm going to try the mods mentioned in this post though...

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03-26-2009 02:21 PM  8 years agoPost 19
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Are you guys having to rev the nuts off the 50 in order to make it more spritely?
spin the head at 1950-2000 rpm (some do more) and good collective management.

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03-26-2009 02:23 PM  8 years agoPost 20
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Here is a video I found of a Sceadu 30 doing some mild 3D.

Watch at YouTube

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