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03-20-2009 11:18 PM  8 years agoPost 1
own1bigtruck

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Ozark, AL USA

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I may have screwed up with what I bought for my first heli, but I figured go big or go home! I got a heck of a deal on a Trex 600 so I managed to talk my wife into letting me get it. Now that I have it put together and dialed in by an experienced heli pilot its up to me. I ran it up for the first time tonight, but the whole time it felt like a pucker factor 12 situation. I brought up the rotor speed slow and steady until it just got light on the skids. I slid it around the floor of the hanger a bit, but it always seems like it wants to roll to the right just about the time it wants to come up off the ground. How do you get over the inital fear of picking it up off the ground with $1400 worth of heli at your control? Is it better to keep sliding around on the floor on light skids like Im doing until I get used to it, or should I just slam the thrust forward and pull it off the ground quick? Or did I just flat screw up and get way too much heli for the first one?? I would appreciate the help or tips on getting over the first hover fear.

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03-20-2009 11:30 PM  8 years agoPost 2
Saint728

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Honolulu, Hawaii

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Congratulations on your first purchase. I started with a Vigor CS as my first helicopter. It takes longer to learn to fly with an expensive helicopter. I think I had over $4,000.00 into mine and I didn't know how to fly. I just put on some big training gear, Rotopod and started from there. The bigger the helicopter the easier it is to learn to fly because its a lot more stale but the cost of crashes are way higher. I didn't crash my helicopter for almost a year, but I took a long time to progress as I didn't want to crash.

I would suggest buying yourself a little indoor helicopter and a simulator so you can get the feel of hovering before you go out and learn to hover on your nitro. I would suggest a Blade CX2 as it is very stable indoors or outside with no wind. Parts are really cheap and you can get down all the hovering, tail in, both sides and nose in. You can also learn to do backwards circuits as well.

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03-20-2009 11:37 PM  8 years agoPost 3
sliderx

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Meteghan,Nova​Scotia, Canada

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For the sake of a $1400 Heli a sim would be good to start. Are you using training gear on it, it would help because it widens the stance of the Heli. In ground effect you are not going to have the best control. You can trim it to keep it more steady but the trim will be different when you leave the ground. Short hops a few inches off the ground to get the feel and back down again. It's a scary thing when you first start. Use small stick movements or you will over control. Can you get any help to learn? It took me awhile with short hops to start when I first learned, and parts.

Raptor 50 V2

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03-20-2009 11:38 PM  8 years agoPost 4
own1bigtruck

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Ozark, AL USA

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Well it isnt a nitro, I got an electric due to the fact that getting nitro sent to Iraq is a pain. I did order Phoenix flight sim, however the heli got here before the sim did, and I got anxious to run it up. I have a feeling the sim got shipped from brittan to the states, and then its going to get sent to me. I built a training gear sorta out of 1/4 inch aluminum hydraulic line (all I had at the time). I have also put a spyder gear system on which seems to help absorb some of the shock of the short jumps.

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03-20-2009 11:46 PM  8 years agoPost 5
Saint728

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Honolulu, Hawaii

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Buy the proper training gear as they tend to fall apart from vibrations and the legs can go into your blades, it gets real ugly. Nitro and electric helicopters fly or hover the same. Have a look at the Rotopod training gear. It has 5 carbon legs and the top part swivels around 360 degrees. It also can tilt from side to side and forwards and backwards as well. It can handle the weight of a 90 size helicopter and absorbs the shock from 10-15 feet in the air. Here is a link to look at it. http://www.heliproz.com/prodinfo.asp?number=103602

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03-21-2009 12:13 AM  8 years agoPost 6
Brokenwing II

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Watertown, NY

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First off, welcome to the family. I don't think it's too much and it sounds like you bought the right sim. I'm still not comfy and I've been playing almost a year. By the way, which hanger at Wheeler Sac do you fly in? I live outside Black River. Give me an e-mail sometime. I'm always looking for folks to fly with. Again welcome to the addiction. If you need to borrow a set of training gear I have my set I hardly used for my Raptor 50, same size as your 600. I'm still kindof new but I'd be more than willing to help.

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03-21-2009 12:15 AM  8 years agoPost 7
own1bigtruck

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Ozark, AL USA

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my hangar at wheeler is 2070, but right now Im over in Iraq. I am supposed to get back in October, so maybe we could meet up.

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03-21-2009 12:20 AM  8 years agoPost 8
Brokenwing II

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Watertown, NY

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Great, by that time we both should be Pros I/m in the Bone Yard, 2518.

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03-21-2009 06:31 AM  8 years agoPost 9
GMPCOBRA

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oregon

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first off welcome to rr. thing is when the heli gets light on the skids ya just have to get over it and
lift it off the ground about 3 feet. as long as your tail is holding the heli tail twards you it should be fine
do some short hops till you feel comfy with holding it in the air. training gear is verry good to have but i took mine off after the 3rd flight

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03-21-2009 04:22 PM  8 years agoPost 10
Mundale

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burton Mi USA

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ok well i didnt read all the post so if i repeat sry but what i will say when i first started out which was a lil bit ago but i got stuck in iraq also but they wouldnt let me fly ne ways is that sim is a plus and also dont just kill the thorttle if u get scared ur almost garantee to crash unless u are reall close to the ground and not high enough to really screw ne thing up other wise if u get intouble hit the throttle and get it higher up so that u have more room to correct ur self.. also its the physics of the heli to drag to the right because of the rotor and the head and the way u interact expicaly real close to the ground where ur pushing all that wind down from your head just adjust with ur thumbs and get it up a couple feet off the ground so that u dont have that effect even still if u look close after u make ur adjustments ur swash will slightly tilted to compisate depending on who u talk to some ppl set up there heli so that the swash plate isnt totaly lvl that it tilts to the right a lil bit because of it... theres a nice lil article in one of the heli mags i read ill get back at u with what it is... but pretty much its nerve racking but imo get it high so u can make corrections and u should be just fine just make sure u can crawl before u walk and walk befor u try and run.. hope this helps

Mundale

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03-22-2009 02:44 AM  8 years agoPost 11
Phoenix_8

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USA

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I figured go big or go home!

I did the same thing man, the 600E was my first heli. Now I'm thinking it's like giving a 16 y/o a Ferrari. But make no apologies for it...it is a fun heli.

It is more intimidating than the smaller 450-size birds; but like everybody says, it does float better.

Spend a lot of time with your sim. That tool will give you more confidence to overcome your fears. I used a training gear for the first few hovers and found it easier to control the heli once it was at eye level. But be mindful of wind speeds because those wiffle balls can cause a lot of drag and vibration.

What was more difficult for me was flying AFTER my first crash. The cost of replacing those parts really added up quickly. So I went on RR and picked up a used 450. This bird has really set me free. I can easily hide the crash cost from my wife. And without that fear... it just seemed easier and more fun.

Lest I forget, get a buddy that has experience flying. He can hook up his radio to yours and give you that "safety net." The same person can also help you with your set ups. I met my buddy here on RR There are lots of great pilots here who are always willing to help.

Goodluck, happy flying, and THANK YOU for your service to our country.

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03-22-2009 02:59 AM  8 years agoPost 12
Mr Scout.

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milpitas,ca,USA

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onebigtruck

Don't worry!,it aint the first, and it aint your last!.LOL.main thing is you keep flying and have fun. go do some simms for about 30min to 1hr a day, and in no time you'll be up there,just like the rest of us!..what ever you do,dont give up!!..there are days are bad and many days that are good!..good luck!!..

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03-22-2009 10:36 PM  8 years agoPost 13
own1bigtruck

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Ozark, AL USA

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Well I got Phoenix in the mail yesterday and spent about 4 hours practicing trying to hover on it last night. Tonight I took some of ya'lls advice and got ballsy and put the power to her and picked her up for the first time. Was pretty scary, but it was a lot smoother and more controlable about 5 feet off the ground. Mangaged to pick it up and set it down about 5 times before the controller battery was starting to get weak and I didnt want to take any chances. The x-gear spyder gear I bought also paid for itself tonight as I had one "oh crap" landing that was kinda hard. The gear absorbed all of the impact like a champ. For $70 bucks, I think anyone that flies a large heli should look into investing in a set, especially a beginner. They sure saved a $90 set of blades tonight!

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03-22-2009 11:38 PM  8 years agoPost 14
dave75d

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Jacksonville, FL

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i hear ya on the blade costs. check out helidirect right now, they've got a set of 600mm black carbons for $45 a set. cant beat that with a stick. thats something you should always keep in stock.

ten grand in helis and all i can do is hover

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03-23-2009 01:24 AM  8 years agoPost 15
Brokenwing II

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Watertown, NY

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Great to hear you got it off the ground. It fly's better higher. Less ground effect. Looking forward to flying with you when you get back.n Keep up on the sim it's invaluable.

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04-04-2009 04:05 AM  8 years agoPost 16
tbosco

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Signal Mt. TN USA

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Congrats on the 600. I think that will be my next heli. Then again, I may need another "beater" before then. LOL
So how do you like the Phoenix? I just got mine last week and think it's great. I was using Real Flight previously.
My brother let me hover his 600 and it seemed effortless compared to my CP Pro 2.
Onward and upward!

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04-08-2009 11:12 PM  8 years agoPost 17
Jacoub

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Kuwait

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oooops

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