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03-20-2009 10:06 AM  8 years agoPost 1
wheelie kid

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Hey has any one had any dealings with this company . Sent my charger to them because i've ruined about £800 in lipo batteries . Now they want to charge me for the upgrade .

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03-20-2009 11:51 AM  8 years agoPost 2
HeliPhil

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I have not had any problems with them - I sent back a charger that failed after a couple of charges and it was replaced FOC. The new software 6.51 chip that I have is fine as is the latest software for my pocket lader.

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03-20-2009 05:14 PM  8 years agoPost 3
TOSH

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l fly with the Kid. What`s happened here is the chager in question was shutting off and saying full when it had only got to 80%. As we use timed flights an the 80% rule without knowing it he was flattening the packs every time. We thought it was his hard flying style that was giving him short flight times and toasting the packs. ln the end after a pack had been charged on the orbit microlader which said full we put it on my Schulze and it took another 20 minutes and put the last 20% in. Obviously the microlader is not working as it should so he sends it back. Orbitronic say they can`t find anything wrong but wan`t £40.00 to put it right, if you can work that out.

Flybars. Who needs `em.

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03-23-2009 06:40 PM  8 years agoPost 4
TOSH

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So nobody`s delt with this firm. Can`t say l blame you, sounds like a rip off to me.

Flybars. Who needs `em.

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03-24-2009 05:58 AM  8 years agoPost 5
nitro fun

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the only time i have had that happen with my orbit was bas connections on the plugs for the batterys, and too long charging wire too small.

did you use the same charge cord on the other charger for the last 20%?

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03-24-2009 08:04 AM  8 years agoPost 6
TOSH

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did you use the same charge cord on the other charger for the last 20%?
No but its the same wire, may even be a little shorter.
The worrying thing is that they said there was nothing wrong with it but charged £40 to put it right.

Flybars. Who needs `em.

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03-24-2009 11:55 AM  8 years agoPost 7
Joe90

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What is the cell voltage cut off ?
You can adjust is from 2.0v to 4.23V per cell
The display will still display Lixx at 3.6V for LiFE

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03-24-2009 02:14 PM  8 years agoPost 8
Foster

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Does this charger not count mah put back in or have a running timer? I would have noticed it only taking 35 minutes to charge a pack at 1c instead of 55. Sounds to me like user error as well as faulty equipment.

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03-25-2009 12:03 PM  8 years agoPost 9
HeliPhil

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The charger does display mAh that is put back in when charging - (it will also store the last charge while it is switched on) - I can't remember exactly but maybe you can change the cutoff point so it would undercharge ????

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03-25-2009 02:48 PM  8 years agoPost 10
TOSH

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I would have noticed it only taking 35 minutes to charge a pack at 1c instead of 55.
Where did you pull that from?

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03-25-2009 03:08 PM  8 years agoPost 11
Foster

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You said you hooked a battery to another charger and it took another 20 minutes... my 3s 2200's take about 55 minutes at 1c charge rate. If all of a sudden my battery is saying charged at 35 minutes I'm going to know something is up. Not to mention my chargers show how many mah have been put back in... if my battery took only 35 minutes to charge I'd be looking at that number very closely.

The user is responsible for paying attention to his batteries, there is a faulty product here but if he ruined 800 quid worth of battery its his own fault in my opinion.

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03-25-2009 05:28 PM  8 years agoPost 12
TOSH

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You said you hooked a battery to another charger and it took another 20 minutes...
Yes. l didn`t say it only took 35 min in the first place.

lf you have a 5A pack and the charger says full and it`s put 4A in then you would think its full, but thats assuming you had 1A in when you started the charge. lt didn`t because the charger was faulty.
The user is responsible for paying attention to his batteries, there is a faulty product here but if he ruined 800 quid worth of battery its his own fault in my opinion.
Maybe when you have a lot more experience you may also have a more educated opinion.

Flybars. Who needs `em.

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03-25-2009 09:12 PM  8 years agoPost 13
wheelie kid

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If i plugged my 6s 1p 3700 battery in to be charged . The charger would ask What cell count so i confirm 6s . The battery would charge for an hour putting back in about 2900mah and reading 25.1 volts when complete .The one thing i couldn't understand was when i plugged my tp balancer onto the battery . I would have the 6 red lights and the yellow status light on at the start . Connect it to the charger and it would begin . When the tp balancer detects 90% charge put in the battery the yellow status light comes on. My charger would read full, but the yellow status light on the tp balancer never came on to detect it was 90% even though the charger had finished charging .

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03-26-2009 12:09 PM  8 years agoPost 14
HeliPhil

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Did you ever try charging without the balancer ?? in case that is the problem??

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03-26-2009 12:43 PM  8 years agoPost 15
TOSH

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lt`a a TP balancer, we have three of those and two FP balancers. All work fine. The TP balancer has no controll over the charger.
THE CHARGER WAS FAULTY.

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03-26-2009 02:09 PM  8 years agoPost 16
Foster

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Ok Tosh maybe this is my horribly inexperienced stupidity but what ESC is he running that doesn’t have a low volts warning? I fully admit to not knowing jack but don’t all ESC's start acting funky when Lipos get super low on power? And if he was running them flat there must have been some indication of power loss as it passed the 90% mark right???

Wasn't trying to insult the guy or you but I'm pretty sure there were clear signs of an issue long before 800 pounds of battery were ruined...

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03-26-2009 04:43 PM  8 years agoPost 17
TOSH

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Foster
To save keep going round in circles l must make it clear that we`re not asking or expecting any compensation for the packs. lf you like l`ll even accept that we may have spotted it before we did but we all use the 80% rule and according to the charger every thing was as it should be.
The point is if they say there`s nothing wrong with the chager why does he have to pay £40.00 to fix it?
l sent a gyro back to CSM once that l could only get 30% gain on. Tried it in three different helis with three different servos. They said they couldn`t find anything wrong but we`ll send you a different one. The returned one worked great and the gain went up to 90%. So obviously there was something wrong but they didn`t want to admit it. l got a good gyro and the didn`t charge me at all. Atleast they were better that this shower.
lf you left your car at the garage and when you picked it up they said there was nothing wrong with it buy we fixed it and we want £500.00 or you`re not getting it back would that be ok?

Flybars. Who needs `em.

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03-26-2009 05:04 PM  8 years agoPost 18
Foster

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No, but I've always been charged a service fee for diagnostics...

I agree they should not be charging you though and I wouldn't accept that charger back... I'd also be pretty pissed off

Good luck with them

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04-25-2009 08:52 PM  8 years agoPost 19
rotory

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Hi Kid,

I can relate. However, I guess that they say "Nothing wrong" for its intended purpose(V6.4) and the charge is for the needed "Upgrade".
You see, I had an older version of the Orbit Microlader(V6.4) like yours and I ended up loosing a cheaper 3s pack as well. When looking into it, I learned that these were primarily made for Nickle-based(NiCd, NiMh) batteries with very advanced option. Also they included only very basic Lithium option for the forth coming technology at that time, since Lipos were still in development....
Anyways I had to upgrade to the new chip v6.51. I bought it for $25 and installed it myself. Now, I actually love this charger. Its very powerful and you can adjust the voltage for any type of Lithium based battery pack(Opt#4).

With the charger OFF, Hold the two UP/Down buttons and then power ON,, Keep holding up/down buttons until you get into the SETUP mode and it plays a tune. Let go..
Now with every push of the ON button, you can step through the following 5 options;
1- Sounds (warning)
2- Turn Off (Supply Battery Protection)
3- Auto Discharge
4- Lithium Voltage
5- Language

At any option you can modify its parameter by using up/down buttons. After modification, Push ON to go to the next step.
After option 5, it goes to normal operation if you push ON again.
Now, when in option 4, using Up/Down buttons set the LiXX voltage to suit your kind of Lithium based( Lipo, LiFe a123, emoli...etc) battery. It can be set from 2 to 4.23 volt per cell. If you are not sure check with the battery manufacturer or just check the voltage cut off on your other favorite charger.

Its a pitty that I find still older versions being sold with out any explanation to the needed upgrade by the seller. Most don't even know about it.
Ofcourse there is the possibility of a defective item if you still have problem after the upgrade.
Unfortunately, verbal communication with the company suffers from language barrier and there is hardly any representation. Manual is non-existant or I could do better without,, can't remember any more.
The charger itself, I trust whole heartedly, very robust and reliable. Have had it since 2000 or 2001. Been a faithful work horse.
Hope this helps

Bob

p.s. I paid something like $20.-30. for a USB cable + CD afew years
back. This allowed me to see/save a graphical representation of all relevant info( Volt, Amp, Time,,,) on the Computer

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04-25-2009 08:54 PM  8 years agoPost 20
rotory

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Sorry, Don't know why that picture of the tail was included

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