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HelicopterMain Discussion › How essential is a Governor??
03-21-2009 05:03 PM  8 years agoPost 41
Aaron29

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I am afraid that I did get real.

I'll come back to heli reality.

You gotta have 8717HV's on all servos.

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03-21-2009 05:04 PM  8 years agoPost 42
Aox

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Especially your mixture control!

If you aren't carb smarttin on HV, you aren't flying.

-Aox

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03-21-2009 05:13 PM  8 years agoPost 43
Aaron29

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We take ourselves way too seriously. For Pete's sake. We're flying toys around.

I agree, you need to run an 8717HV on the mixture servo with active mixture control. Or you're just "playing."

Seriously. Everyone on RR is just playing!!! No matter what gear you run these are toys.

To the OP: you don't need one, but if you get one, enjoy it for what it is.

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03-21-2009 09:08 PM  8 years agoPost 44
rexxigpilot

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Florida

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Toys are for kids, models are for adults!

Seriously, the word essential is salient. Essential for what - 3D, FAI, scale or just plain old flying circuits? I contend that for competition level 3D, a governor is essential.

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03-21-2009 09:13 PM  8 years agoPost 45
baddynergy

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sierra madre, ca-​usa

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I have 2 90s. A Synergy with an ATG and a trex700 without a gov. I can throw them around all day long. Noone can tell the 700 does not have a gov, in fact they ask which one I am using and they are quite surprised when I tell them none. I took me all of 2 flights to set up my curves.

Is it necessary?? not at all. If you dont like setting curves, it does make life easier.

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03-22-2009 04:39 PM  8 years agoPost 46
jdone

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Queens, New York

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Was out of town.... I really appreciate all responses as I've recently purchased a T-Rex 600N and was wondering if additional purchase is required to meet 3d level standards with easy programming as I have a Futaba 12 FGA radio.

Whatever it is that you love to do, just have fun doing it...

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03-22-2009 05:44 PM  8 years agoPost 47
MAXHSHV

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,mn usa

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I just installed my first govener on my t700n and it works great, but it will still overspeed on desent sometimes, witch is the only complaint i have with useing curves I've got so used to flying without a govener that the difference seams non exsistant, i have noticed that with a govener that there is a slight lag when loading the disk compared to me curves setup, i'm assuming thats because my throttle srvo is to slow only .12 speed,in my curves i also us swash to throttle mix witch basicly keeps the throttle pinned with any signifigant swash input.
With that. i don't think i need to buy 10 more goveners to outfit the rest of my fleet.I agree there nice to set and forget.But i'm not seeing a big performance increase. I'll probably outfit my 3 favorite birds with goveners and call it good.

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03-22-2009 10:39 PM  8 years agoPost 48
flustercluck

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Newnan Ga (Just S.​of ATL)

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Our conversations border what kind of bathing suit you should wear when surfing.
Depends on the type of board I'm using. Regardless, most times I carry an 8717 in my pocket, since it helps me surf bigger waves.

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03-23-2009 12:30 AM  8 years agoPost 49
Helinutnz

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You gotta have 8717HV's on all servos.
Only if you want to do crap (crack) manouevres.
I hope I see a heli explode in mid air one day when I see them doing that. to me it looks awful. Other than that my 9155's roll and flip the 700N at the same rate as anyone elses probably because the majority of fliers wind in so much expo to slow the fast servo's down and I only use 10% expo.

yeah so same arguement here. many will buy 8717's because larry and harry use them and it will most certainly make them fly better or they have enough money to get the best and then dumb them down so they can use them. Some are good enough and can use the servo's to the max which would be for the crap moves.

I'd rather go for less slop...excellent centering and resolution...max torque. only need say .10 to .18 servo speed.

Just like the governor....not required but a damn nice gadget. And well....I like gadgets that make life easier. Even a pro I talked to said it was a bunch of horse$hit that you need to tune a motor only with the gov turned off so I tune mine from day one with them on and have no issues.

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03-23-2009 02:18 AM  8 years agoPost 50
chopper_crazy

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Delphos, Ohio

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I have never flown with one before but I recently put a multigov pro on my 600 pro and really like it. It is easy to set up and it is nice knowing that everything is working exactly how you set it up. I probably won't fly without one now

It's a complex, costly, glow powered anti-gravity machine!

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03-23-2009 03:07 AM  8 years agoPost 51
Helinutnz

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BTW.

From personally meeting these people I know they run governors.

A szabo usa
J krause usa
B watts Usa
D Osbourn Uk
G Broadbent aus
G Garland aus
J Platt nz

Doesn't mean you should run one but it sure as heck tells you pro's and hot fliers use them. wonder why?

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03-23-2009 08:30 AM  8 years agoPost 52
mchammer

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Doesn't mean you should run one but it sure as heck tells you pro's and hot fliers use them. wonder why?
Because when you are pushing a machine hard, they simply work better than any throttle curve...

Peace Through Superior Firepower!!!

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03-23-2009 05:09 PM  8 years agoPost 53
w.pasman

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Netherlands

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I had one but threw it out. Mainly because it will hide any engine problems and that actually caused me one mid-flight flameout with (slighly) failed auto. Also that makes me more nervous while flying.

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03-23-2009 05:29 PM  8 years agoPost 54
flustercluck

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Newnan Ga (Just S.​of ATL)

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Also that makes me more nervous while flying.
I say that about every aspect of r/c heli's

What I'm not crazy about w/ gov's is that under heavy or frequently changing collective loads, gov's are, by definition, always "behind" or "playing catch-up" with what I want to do

Sometimes, just for giggles, I like to dump the collective and overspeed the head a bit, so as to provide a lot of pop for the next move

Can't do that w/ the gov on (at least I can't)

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03-23-2009 09:56 PM  8 years agoPost 55
Helinutnz

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I had one but threw it out. Mainly because it will hide any engine problems and that actually caused me one mid-flight flameout with (slighly) failed auto. Also that makes me more nervous while flying.
LOL

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03-28-2009 03:34 AM  8 years agoPost 56
mchammer

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Can't do that w/ the gov on (at least I can't)
thats what a rev limiter does.

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03-28-2009 02:10 PM  8 years agoPost 57
bmwe30m3

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Okinawa, Japan

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All depends on you

I am FAR from proficient at flying these things. I have been going at it for about a year and a half or so, and I recently added a MultiGov Pro to my Raptor 50. The price was right, I like gadgets, and this was one that I could afford. In short, it's handy. It keeps my headspeed where I'm comfortable (good head tachs cost almost as much as this gov), and I don't get any lag (I only fly patterns though, no 3D). It's also expandable to add mixture control. Maybe I'll need that someday, but I doubt it. In short, it was worth the money to me. I wanted to know my headspeed, I didn't have a tach, and this came along at the right price. End of story. Hope this helps a little.

CJ

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03-28-2009 03:20 PM  8 years agoPost 58
zackesch

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Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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New guy question, do you need a Governor in a larger electric heli or is the one in the ESC the same as an external?

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03-28-2009 03:22 PM  8 years agoPost 59
rotormonkey

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Ottawa, ON - Canada

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Many ESCs HAVE an internal governer. Using a separate governer on an electric heli isn't practical because usually the magnet for the sensor is mounted in the fan or clutch bell. Neither of which an electric heli has. So if you do want a governed headspeed, use the one in your ESC.

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03-28-2009 11:17 PM  8 years agoPost 60
zackesch

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That's what i figured, just making sure.

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