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03-19-2009 03:49 PM  8 years agoPost 1
rcnut

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Rockford, Illinois

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Received my 550 last Thurs. As of yesterday, I have everything I need to build.
It does concern me about the belt freying, the dampners/bearings failing, burning up seed controllers. However, I can't wait to fly it.

As for hardware;

Scorpion 4020-1100KV
Align 100Amp ESC
Made BEC, set to 6V
3-Align DS620 servos
Solid-G w/Align DS620
Mav G5 wide cord 550mm
AR7000 receiver
300mm flybar

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03-19-2009 06:59 PM  8 years agoPost 2
HFG

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Welcome to the Outrage family ! The belts do fray but they work well enough there have only been a small number of failures, but outrage is currently in the process of finding a new belt supplier. The ESC failures are all with the HV85 and is an ESC issue not a heli issue, so its unfair to blame the 550.

P.S. You will have to get the outrage N50 when it comes out :P

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03-19-2009 07:48 PM  8 years agoPost 3
altima1779

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i have not flown mine yet but the build was a breeze!I may be wrong but the belt issue may be due to the belt riding too low on the front pulley. I just added a larger shim to the tension pulleys and now it does not run on the bottom of the pulley.

I also used align links ends because the included ends were tight and I do not have a sizer.

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03-19-2009 09:15 PM  8 years agoPost 4
rcnut

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I wasn't blaming the heli for ESC burning, just noting all the issues people are having with this heli.

Who know......my might be ok!
i have not flown mine yet but the build was a breeze!I may be wrong but the belt issue may be due to the belt riding too low on the front pulley. I just added a larger shim to the tension pulleys and now it does not run on the bottom of the pulley.
I like this idea! I'll have to check into this.
Thanks!

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03-19-2009 09:20 PM  8 years agoPost 5
CoronaL

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Winnebago IL

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I tried some align links and they were loose IMO. I got a bit nervous with the tight links, but just as everyone said they wore in and I'm happy with them now.

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03-19-2009 09:20 PM  8 years agoPost 6
CoronaL

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HFG

you can keep the N50, I want the N90

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03-20-2009 05:09 AM  8 years agoPost 7
Al Austria

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The ESC failures are all with the HV85 and is an ESC issue not a heli issue, so its unfair to blame the 550.
I wouldn't be so quick to rule out the helicopter. Bobby Smith had a Century Electron ESC pop of which had been working great for a period of time. I'm considering selling my 550 as my ESC suffered a hard cut off in flight. I'm running a CC 110HV which had over 200 problem free flights in a Century Swift 620SE. What gets me is everyone seems to be blaming their their ESC issues on the CC 85HV, and going to a more static tolerant ESC. IMHO, they are treating the symptom rather than the problem.

I'm slowly loosing trust in this machine. So far I've had a belt fail, a stock tail blade fail, and an ESC cutoff. Don't get me wrong the helicopter fies fantastic, but these first run issues are making me broke.

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03-20-2009 12:36 PM  8 years agoPost 8
rcnut

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Don't get me wrong the helicopter fies fantastic, but these first run issues are making me broke.
Yea, I never liked doing R&D at my expence. Normally I'll wait a year or so to buy a kit, this way most of, if not all, the bugs are worked out.

Yesterday, I dumped my new (only 5-1/2 flights) Trex 700N, due to the Deans connector. Power shut off then back on, only to cause the heli, now hovering at 15 feet, to violently boom strike and spin to the ground.

Damage isn't bad, boom, TT, boom supports, tail blades, arm that holds the tail control lever, tail push rod, landing gear, so far.

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03-31-2009 08:43 PM  8 years agoPost 9
rcnut

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Well, I finally had the chance to start building my Outrage 550 this last weekend. The build was quick and not too bad to follow. I had to keep reminding myself, this is a small heli, compared to my Aurora & Trex 700.

Setting up the swash plate was fun/interesting. The links are so tight it was hard to tell if there was any interaction in the collective pitch. I asked my friend John about the links and he said not to worry; they'll loosen up after a few flights. I'll recheck my setup then.

I also noticed the links have a counter sink / entry side, found this after I broke a link. Some of the labels (bag 1, bag 2, etc) were missing labeled, the labels moved, but not a problem....it was easy to figure out.

I only have 2 issues......so far. First, I didn't receive the 2 thrust washers (10x12x1mm, R550162), instead I have 4 brass damper spacers (8x11.5x1.3mm, R550154) this has stopped the build for the head (until I order some replacements).
Also I'm not sure which way the bevel on the brass damper goes?.....towards the rubber damper or towards the bearing. My guess is, the bevel goes towards the damper, this will prevent the damper from being cut by the brass spacer. Now of course, this argument can work the other way......the bevel towards the bearing, this will help the damper from oozing out of the head and prevent the bearings outer race from binding (the reason for the bevel).

Missing 2 - R550752, 2x10mm cap screws, no problem, I had a couple from my Trex 450's stash.

Second, the boom mount right & left cracked in two places, were the boom spacer inserts are. Both are by the belt idler pulleys, the bottom being the worst. The spacer inserts, on the bottom of the idler pulleys, spins around and not sure if it will fall apart/pull out in flight.

Also had several bent control links on the swash plate, servos, head, and tail rod. Some were bent in the center area; a couple were bent in the threaded area. I was able to straighten them, carefully.

The packaging of the kit was great; I couldn't believe the heli was in those boxes! I'm ready to install the rest of the electronics this week and hopefully test fly on Friday.....before the rain this coming weekend.

After talking with Helidirect, they sent me replacement parts for my outrage, and I didn't have to ask! Now that's service. I'll have to wait for the rain and snow to end...sometime next week....before I can test fly.

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03-31-2009 09:26 PM  8 years agoPost 10
CoronaL

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I hope you don't test crash this like your 700

hey! What are friends for

Randy!!! I am the liquor

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03-31-2009 09:50 PM  8 years agoPost 11
rcnut

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Oh yea....now that you said that......you can buy the replacement parts!!LOL

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03-31-2009 10:16 PM  8 years agoPost 12
CoronaL

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lol
well at least we'll have a few helis in case one plows in, we can bring out the spares

Randy!!! I am the liquor

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03-31-2009 11:42 PM  8 years agoPost 13
uf-engineer

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Jacksonville,​Florida

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Call Helidirect about your issues. They will take care of you. They did me.

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04-01-2009 03:46 PM  8 years agoPost 14
rcnut

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Coronal, now that I have your attention.....which pinion gear am I going to use on my Scorpion 4020-1100 on 6c?

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04-01-2009 10:46 PM  8 years agoPost 15
Zaaaguy72

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I have heard from more than one person that it is not an ESC problem, but a heli problem. I know the belts are a pretty serious issue, but put a Logo 500 belt on mine, which should take care of that. The other problem, supposedly is the pully's seizing up and putting extra strain and draw on the ESC causing ESC failure. Other than these, pretty easily remedied problems, the Outrage is Outrageous.

Chris

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04-01-2009 10:55 PM  8 years agoPost 16
HFG

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New belts should arrive at HD.com very shortly, they are identical to the RJX belts.

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04-01-2009 10:57 PM  8 years agoPost 17
Zaaaguy72

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The RJX belts are sweet! Good news.

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04-01-2009 11:01 PM  8 years agoPost 18
HFG

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Yeah, they are Brando brand belts, if I am not mistaken this is the so called Mavvrik belts for the 450 which last just about forever. New pulleys are in the works as well. Charley is overseas atm overlooking production stuff (in case you haven't noticed the photos of the N50 yet) so we should see a lot of the new parts very shortly. This is why i am a rep for Outrage, they stand behind their products like no one else.

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04-01-2009 11:04 PM  8 years agoPost 19
Zaaaguy72

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Thanks for the info.

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04-06-2009 07:18 PM  8 years agoPost 20
rcnut

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Well I received the replacement parts from helidirect, and finished building my outrage. Now it's installing the electronics.

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