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03-18-2009 03:34 PM  8 years agoPost 1
phil evon

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is this reg worth it or just all hype?

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03-18-2009 03:38 PM  8 years agoPost 2
USNAviationjay

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it's a great regulator.. it does its job well..
but 140 bucks for a regulator and thats all it does.. naw..

I have one I'll trade for a new 2 in 1 and 50 bucks..

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03-18-2009 03:44 PM  8 years agoPost 3
phil evon

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sme thing i was thinking jay...140 bux and does the same as every other reg...for twice the price

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03-18-2009 03:50 PM  8 years agoPost 4
tadawson

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The Arizona has better specs, and is quite a bit cheaper. The only downside is the Arizona is a tad bigger and heavier, but that's it . . .

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03-18-2009 05:04 PM  8 years agoPost 5
bkervaski

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I've had the best results with Duralite HD regulators myself.

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03-18-2009 05:31 PM  8 years agoPost 6
baddynergy

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The Arizona has better specs, and is quite a bit cheaper. The only downside is the Arizona is a tad bigger and heavier, but that's it .
I do respectfully disagree. The Arizona is still only able to put 6amps into the reciever where the reactor-x can put 9amps. The difference is the JR type plugs are only rated at 3amps. With the Arizona only having 2 plugs to Rx hence 6amps. THe reactor x has 3 plugs hence 9amps.
The Align 2n1 is not even in the same league as these other 2. It has a single 3amp plug.

If you are running 8717s for example I would run nothing less the the Arizona, but would prefer the Reactor+X simply because it can feed more amps.

Yes I have run all 3 of these. THis is not speculation but based on my personally experience with them. All my ships have the Reactor X now.

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03-18-2009 05:33 PM  8 years agoPost 7
USNAviationjay

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well then buy mine for a 2 in 1 and 50 bucks =) and you can have another for us non 8717 guys running stock voltages its overkill.

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03-18-2009 05:34 PM  8 years agoPost 8
Cheech91060

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The CCPM regulator from Perfect is tough to beat for the price/features.

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03-18-2009 06:28 PM  8 years agoPost 9
tadawson

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I do respectfully disagree. The Arizona is still only able to put 6amps into the reciever where the reactor-x can put 9amps. The difference is the JR type plugs are only rated at 3amps. With the Arizona only having 2 plugs to Rx hence 6amps. THe reactor x has 3 plugs hence 9amps.
Optimistic in your enthusiasm, but a bit misguided . . . . Yes, a servo plug is rated for 3 amps, but it does not suddenly cease to work when you get to 3.1, or limit current. Current ratings are based on both voltage drop, as well as heating, and the latter is primarily the main concern, since voltage drop relates directly to heat. Considering that a heli servo set is not pulling constant load at all times, the connectors can handle an *average* maximum current of 3 amps, but can go over than on peaks with no problems.

Note also that Fromeco does a lot of custom work, so if you wanted an Arizona with, say, Dean's out, I am reasonable confident that they could accommodate you on request . . .

As to the actual current rating of the Arizona, they give a much more detailed rating description than anyone else, but it tends to confuse folks sometimes . . . . the Arizona will to 8 amps at 5 volts, a bit over 11 at 5.5 and 17 or so at 6.0. While the cables may not be able to handle 100% of this, it is significantly higher than the Reactor-X, and basically translates into the Arizona having much tighter regulation and resistance to voltage sag when you hit those high current peaks, such as the ones that used to be known to brown-out Spektrum receivers.

Oh, and the Arizona actually has *four* power outputs, but two of them go to the gyro/tail connections, and two to the RX . . . . not to mention having a separate regulator for the gyro/tail, so that you can run 6V cyclics and 4.8v tail simply and easily. Not sure what a tail servo pulls right off the top of my head, but note that both it's and the gyro's current needs will *NOT* be going through the RX with an Arizona . . .

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03-18-2009 06:48 PM  8 years agoPost 10
baddynergy

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Arizona Regulator
Overview Specifications Accessories Image Gallery Documents

Specifications and Requirements
Application

Charging Specs

Connector Specs
Connector Max "RATED" Amperage 3.0
Connector Type Futaba Female / Compatible with JR

Electrical Specs
Max Amperage 17.8 Watts no Airflow / 28 Watts 1m/sec Airflow
Max Voltage 10
Operating Voltage 8.4
Quiescent Current Load <=84uA
Voltage Droop Under Load .05

Size/Mass
Height inches .9"
Heigth MM 230
Lenght MM 860
Length inches 3.4"
Mass Grams 50
Width inches 1.7"
Width MM 430
from fromeco
Reactor-X Features and Specifications:

Input Voltage Supply 7.2-7.4V nominal
Output 1 (CCPM/3Servo BUS) 6.0V or 6.8V selectable; 10A+
Output 2 (RX, Gyro, Tail Rotor) 5.2V; 5.0A MAX
On/Off Failsafe Reactor failsafe to ON if switch failure
Compatibility JR, Spektrum, Futaba, Hitec, etc.
Battery types supported Li-Poly, Li-Ion, Ni-MH, Ni-Cad
Fast charge capable Included fast charge cable
Weight 56.5g
From Scot Grey

According to the laymans specs The Reactor X is capable of more current. And these are specs on the basic regs that everyone buys. Not customized with Deans plugs that only work on a couple of Spektrum Rxs.

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03-18-2009 06:56 PM  8 years agoPost 11
tadawson

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And here is where the confusion comes in! The wattage rating on the Arizona is not watts *PROVIDED* it is watts *DISSIPATED*, which you will see if you read a little more deeply, and that is also reflected clearly in their output rating graphic, which gives the values I stated.

So, for a 2S lipo, with airflow, 28 watts dissipation, 6V out, lipo nominally at about 7.6 - 7.7 volts, so regulator drop is 1.6 to 1.7 volts.

Since P=IV, I=P/V, so I=28/1.7 = 16.47 amps, which seems to match what I posted quite nicely.

In still air, it's 17.8/1.7 = 10.47 amps

Still equal or better to the Reactor-X . . . Sorry . . .

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03-18-2009 07:29 PM  8 years agoPost 12
baddynergy

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[/quote] Still equal or better to the Reactor-X . . . Sorry . . .
[quote]

Nothing to be sorry about at all. I do agree They are the best regs on the market. I do like the fact that the Reactor has a 6.8v output.
But the only thing I see as better is the price. Are the both worth the price? Absolutly

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03-18-2009 07:52 PM  8 years agoPost 13
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Not sure, but I think that Fromeco may have added some higher voltages to the Arizona, but I'm not sure - mine only go to 6, and I don't have an urge to go higher myself.

Myself, I can't in any way, shape, or form justify the cost of the Reactor-X. As an Electrical Engineer, I know how simple basic regulators are, and there is no magic in either device, so the claim of recovering design expenses as a justifier for cost won't fly . . .

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03-20-2009 07:52 PM  8 years agoPost 14
ZAC ATTACK

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My Arizona Tim can be adjusted to7.9V!Something the Reactor-X cannot do!!

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03-20-2009 09:27 PM  8 years agoPost 15
Andy from Sandy

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I have seen a reactor x fail. The connector board is only held on with solder. If this moves at any time the solder is cooling it will be an accident waiting to happen.

http://www.rcheliaddict.co.uk/f34/7...-failure-14621/

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03-20-2009 10:08 PM  8 years agoPost 16
baddynergy

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I have seen a reactor x fail. The connector board is only held on with solder. If this moves at any time the solder is cooling it will be an accident waiting to happen.
And I have had an Arizona fail. Compared to the number of both of these units sold. I would say big deal so one failed. They are after all fragile electronics in a highly destructive machine. Nothing can be perfect 100% of the time.

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03-20-2009 10:16 PM  8 years agoPost 17
Andy from Sandy

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Yes but using solder as the only means of support is a pi$$ poor design.

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03-20-2009 10:19 PM  8 years agoPost 18
Ace Dude

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Fromeco regulators are the only regulators I use and the only ones I trust in my aircraft, period. IMHO the Fromeco regulators are the best designed, best built, and best supported regulators on the market. Not to mention the fact that they are also reasonable priced.

After seeing that picture in the link above of how the Reactor-X daughter board is connected to the main board I must say I'm a bit disappointed.

  

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03-20-2009 10:20 PM  8 years agoPost 19
Ace Dude

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And I have had an Arizona fail.
Please post some pics of your failed Arizona.

  

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03-20-2009 10:28 PM  8 years agoPost 20
baddynergy

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Please post some pics of your failed Arizona.
I will check on my other computer to see if I have them. Fromeco fixed it about a year and a half ago. It had an intermittent power cut out. It was a loose power feed to the Rx.

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