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03-18-2009 01:19 AM  8 years agoPost 1
philip 01

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March 16, 2009
Employers have justified drug tests in the workplace by pointing to such negative effects of drug use as absenteeism and work-related injuries. Now a Florida legislator has proposed that random drug-testing also be applied to those receiving unemployment insurance, justifying it as a way to make state funds go further.

Florida State Senator Michael S. Bennett told Fox News host Steve Doocy on Monday that with the unemployment rate in his recession-battered state running between 10% and 11%, he worries that the Unemployment Trust Fund might be exhausted.

"I wanted to ensure that people who are qualified for unemployment — that the money would be there when they actually go down and get unemployment and that we weren’t supporting the people who were not able to go to work," Bennett explained. "It was nothing against the people who were using the drugs as much as it was to ensure that the people who needed unemployment, it would be there when they got there."

Bill Piper of the Drug Policy Alliance, which is dedicated to ending the "war on drugs," responded that "to require someone to pass a drug test to get their unemployment insurance after they’ve been laid off is pretty cruel — and to require them to pay for the test themselves is even more cruel."

"It’s a pretty degrading process," Piper went on. "You have to urinate in front of another person. … You have to tell complete strangers if you’re on birth control or Viagra or if you’re suffering from depression."

"Normal, everyday Americans shouldn’t have to go through that," insisted Piper. "We’re talking about people who’ve already paid into the unemployment system. They’ve been working hard already, and it’s simply unfair to throw another hurdle to feeding their families."

"He makes a good argument," Doocy agreed. "Unemployment insurance is money that people have already paid into the system. Why shouldn’t they get it if they’re laid off?"

"When you file for unemployment," Bennett replied, "basically you’re saying ‘I’m ready, willing, and — quote — able to go to work. If the person who pays into the unemployment has to pass a drug test … to pay into it, surely the people who are taking out would not object to having to pass the same stringent test. … If you’re not able to go to work because you can’t pass a drug test, why should you draw unemployment?"

"Clearly the people he’s talking about were already capable of working," Piper commented. "They shouldn’t have to take a drug test to prove something to any one."

Bennett, who recently proposed freezing the pay of county clerks and commissioners and similar low-level state employees, may be sincere in saying he is only trying to save money. However, according to election disclosure forms, he did receive a $500 donation to his 2006 election campaign from Abbott Laboratories, which provides workplace drug test kits.

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03-18-2009 01:24 AM  8 years agoPost 2
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If true, the ACLU will tie this up in court for years because of civil rights and privacy issues.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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03-18-2009 01:28 AM  8 years agoPost 3
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they need to do this for people on welfare.

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03-18-2009 01:39 AM  8 years agoPost 4
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Never happen. Politicians are to coward to make the hard decisions.

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03-18-2009 01:47 AM  8 years agoPost 5
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they need to do this for people on welfare.
I agree 100%. I'm all for helping my fellow American's when they're down, but they shouldn't get to be using my help to buy dope.

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03-18-2009 01:48 AM  8 years agoPost 6
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I agree 100%. I'm all for helping my fellow American's when they're down, but they shouldn't get to be using my help to buy dope.
I agree as well. But, it will never happen. The loony left is stuck on "Victims". They will support them no matter what.

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03-18-2009 01:50 AM  8 years agoPost 7
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I agree as well. But, it will never happen. The loony left is stuck on "Victims". They will support them no matter what.
not all Democrats are "loony left", just so ya know...

I hope this passes, as it should.

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03-18-2009 02:17 AM  8 years agoPost 8
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not all Democrats are "loony left", just so ya know...
OK, I will give you that.

But, right now, there sure is a lot of them in Washington that are acting like loonies right now.

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03-18-2009 02:37 AM  8 years agoPost 9
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hi

+1

I know many people taking drugs and getting unemployment..

I also know many "deaf people" abusing the social security system... people ABLE to work but CHOSE not to and wallow/cry in self pity and complain about everything...

Im tired of people thinking they can abuse the system and getting away with it,, deaf folks, people on drugs, people who CAN work but CHOSE NOT TO... ETC

I think drug exams should be a PREREQUESITE to getting government help.... and RANDOM drug exams as well because there are many people who cheat their way into passing drug exams (I am in healthcare, I know this to be a fact).. Im also for supervised drug exams (yes, people WATCHING you take a piss).

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03-18-2009 03:47 AM  8 years agoPost 10
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^^^ absolutely. Kinda irritating when we go to work, pay our bills, and some dirtbag spends all their "welfare" on dope.

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03-18-2009 04:04 AM  8 years agoPost 11
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Do you really think it's wise to give the goverment more power over your life .It's a slippey slop when you start giving away rights.

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03-18-2009 04:08 AM  8 years agoPost 12
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Do you really think it's wise to give the goverment more power over your life .It's a slippey slop when you start giving away rights
exactly what rights? I'm certainly not advocating giving up any rights. I don't think its a "right" to be able to spend your welfare or unemployment on drugs do you?

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03-18-2009 04:13 AM  8 years agoPost 13
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they spend the money on crack and ripple.

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03-18-2009 04:40 AM  8 years agoPost 14
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welfare is not a right, and if you are taking government money they should have the right to drug test you until you stop taking it.

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03-18-2009 11:57 AM  8 years agoPost 15
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I thought about this the other day. Here's my take...

I have a female friend,(yes there is a women that will speak to me). She has two children. She works but not a decent living. So she gets help.

Heres the catch. She smokes pot. If she recieves $250 a month in welfare and medicare. Then spends $250 on drugs....

Guess who's buying her drugs for her....We are.

Drug testing is a need to ensure that people really are using the money wisely.

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03-18-2009 12:17 PM  8 years agoPost 16
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Hawkflyer,

I know a person just like what you describe. He is married, has a 3 year old boy with a girl on the way in 5 months. He doesn't pay rent as he and his wife live in his parent's basement , the father is unemployed (collecting) and he is the biggest pot head you'll ever meet. Some people just don't have their priorities straight...

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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03-18-2009 01:40 PM  8 years agoPost 17
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During the recent Goverment Bailouts,were any drug tests conducted?

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03-18-2009 01:50 PM  8 years agoPost 18
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During the recent Goverment Bailouts,were any drug tests conducted?
actually those would've been corporate greed tests..lol.

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03-18-2009 02:06 PM  8 years agoPost 19
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How about all elected officals? are they drug tested? Senators,Govenors,Supreme Court Judges,Mayors,President?
Urin or Urout!

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03-18-2009 03:00 PM  8 years agoPost 20
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jaxrotor

You beat me to it. If all senators and congressmen had to take a drug test AND prove they had not cheated on income tax, well I guess we would need 80% all new legislators.

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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