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03-17-2009 04:41 PM  8 years agoPost 1
RotoMoto

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...program-that-l/

More back door gun banning to come...

"Obama is quietly ending the federal firearms program, risking public safety on airlines in the name of an anti-gun ideology."

I feel safer already!

Nothing is ever so bad that it can't get worse

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03-17-2009 05:29 PM  8 years ago •• Post 2 ••
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Anyone that expects anything more from the Obamanation, and the democrats need for the sheeple to rely on the government for everything is in for a rude awakening.

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03-17-2009 08:08 PM  8 years agoPost 3
SSN Pru

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Who said this? I can't remember...

A Government big enough to give you everything is also strong enough to take everything away.

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03-20-2009 09:34 PM  8 years agoPost 4
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This makes perfect sense, I mean based on all the pilots hijacking airlines and robbing banks.

What an idiot.

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03-20-2009 09:51 PM  8 years agoPost 5
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You guys got suckered yet again.

Fox News

Federal Officials Deny Report That Obama Seeks to End Pilot Gun Program
Federal officials are denying a report that the Obama administration is attempting to end a program that allows trained airline pilots to carry guns.

Federal officials are denying a report that the Obama administration is seeking to end a program that allows trained airline pilots to carry guns.

In an editorial published Tuesday in The Washington Times, the newspaper wrote that "President Obama is quietly ending the federal firearms program, risking public safety on airlines in the name of an anti-gun ideology."

Sterling Payne, a spokeswoman for the Transportation Security Administration, denied the report and said the program that oversees a reported 12,000 federal flight deck officers (FFDO) is actually expanding.

"It's inaccurate, this program continues to grow," Payne told FOXNews.com of the editorial. "TSA continues to recruit and put new FFDOs on planes, and we continue to train them and do recurring training."

Payne said TSA officials have recently opened a training center for FFDOs in Atlantic City, N.J., with others planned to open in Texas and other states. She declined, citing security concerns, to say how many federal flight deck officers are authorized by the agency, citing security concerns.

"We have thousands of FFDOs right now and we add thousands each year," Payne said.
Representatives from The Washington Times did not return a request for comment. A White House spokesman declined to speak on the matter, saying it was being handled by TSA officials

In a statement issued Tuesday, the Airlines Pilots Association International -- the world's largest airline pilot union, representing nearly 52,250 pilots in the U.S. and Canada -- said the Times editorial "couldn't be further from the truth."

"ALPA representatives met with TSA executives this afternoon and were told in no uncertain terms that TSA embraces the FFDO program, that there are no plans to reduce or restrict its growth, and that in fact the agency fully intends to grow and expand the program," the statement read. "Government representatives acknowledged that the program needs additional funding to achieve these goals, and that they are actively seeking same."

TSA officials are currently training up to 1,500 pilots annually for the program, which was instituted after the Sept. 11 attacks, according to ALPA's statement.

"The size of the FFDO cadre has grown so large that additional resources are needed to provide greater structure and oversight to this important program, which TSA referred to [Tuesday] as 'an important layer of defense.'"

According to TSA's Web site, the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks "demonstrated the need for a multi-layered approach to securing commercial airlines -- and in particular the cockpit -- from terrorist and criminal assault."

Repo man's got all day and all night! Lets go get a drink!

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03-21-2009 04:34 PM  8 years agoPost 6
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"The size of the FFDO cadre has grown so large that additional resources are needed to provide greater structure and oversight to this important program, which TSA referred to [Tuesday] as 'an important layer of defense.'"

You accomplish this by diverting 2 million dollars from the program? I don't think so.

This is from a Washington Times Editorial:
Since Mr. Obama's election, pilots have told us that the approval process for letting pilots carry guns on planes slowed significantly. Last week the problem went from bad to worse. Federal Flight Deck Officers - the pilots who have been approved to carry guns - indicate that the approval process has stalled out.
I think I believe the pilots more than I believe a 'Federal Offical' from the O administration.

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03-21-2009 04:51 PM  8 years agoPost 7
Aaron29

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I encourage everyone to read Animal Farm at this point.

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03-22-2009 02:44 AM  8 years agoPost 8
baby uh1

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Just another thing to check off of Obama's list of things to do for Osama. He's making sure that he'll get his fourty virgins.

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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03-22-2009 03:25 AM  8 years agoPost 9
SSN Pru

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Apparently OCB eats up everything fed to him by his political party, especially the piled high plates of flip-flop

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03-22-2009 08:33 PM  8 years agoPost 10
OzarkCopterBum

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This is from a Washington Times Editorial:
The same editorial as the original link.
I think I believe the pilots more than I believe a 'Federal Offical' from the O administration.
Great. Who are these pilots anyway? Do they have names or have they made public statements anywhere we all can see?

BTW, Their union says differently and they aren't part of the O administration.

What kind of crazy whacked out administration would be opposed to this?

@SSN Pru
Apparently OCB eats up everything fed to him by his political party,
And you are basing your opinion on an anonymously sourced editorial published in a paper owned by the Unification Church and Reverend Sun Myung Moon!!!

HA!!!! Who's feeding you and what???

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03-22-2009 08:37 PM  8 years agoPost 11
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Just another thing to check off of Obama's list of things to do for Osama. He's making sure that he'll get his fourty virgins.
Forty? I thought it was seventy two, did they have to cut back due to the economy? I'd be PISSED if I blew myself up then got screwed out of 32 virgins.
What kind of crazy whacked out administration would be opposed to this?
Exactly, that's why no one would be surprised if this administration did it. Don't forget this is the same administration wanting to reinstate the Assault Weapons Ban. They already have a history of idiocy.

I give up on Loctite, nothing lasts long enough to vibrate loose anymore.

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03-22-2009 10:31 PM  8 years agoPost 12
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Great. Who are these pilots anyway? Do they have names or have they made public statements anywhere we all can see?
They are citizens like myself, that more than likely have much less motive to distort this story than the Federal Government does. I'll put my faith in the word of these 'anonymous' pilots long before I believe a 'fed' who's there to put out the fire before it gets too big.

Nothing is ever so bad that it can't get worse

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03-23-2009 09:33 AM  8 years agoPost 13
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Ain't happening.

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