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03-17-2009 05:18 AM  8 years agoPost 21
philip 01

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And if you stand by and let it happen you will be considered part of the problem and certainly not part of the solution.
what do you propose people do on an individual level?

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03-17-2009 05:51 AM  8 years agoPost 22
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The Democrats are planning to use the violence in Mexico as a reason to reinstate the Assault Weapons Ban, They claim Mexicans are crossing the border and buying machine guns and smuggling them back across the border. What a friggin joke. I own a real assault weapon that is a Full Auto Machine gun and it took me almost a year to obtain the permit and $200 tax stamp that allowed me to own a REAL assault weapon.

Joe "Plugs" Bin-Biden said he will push that little Puppet Eric Holder (aka) U.S Attorney General... to draft a letter to Congress to get them to introduce legislation to reinstate the AWB. The American people have been duped into believing that anything with a 10 or more round magazine is an assault weapon.

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03-17-2009 12:41 PM  8 years agoPost 23
minan

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I don't understand the problem. Can't you just reload the brass that you have?

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03-17-2009 01:02 PM  8 years agoPost 24
baby uh1

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They should just reload it and send it to Iran, cutting out the Chinese middle men.

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03-17-2009 01:29 PM  8 years agoPost 25
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High price of ammunition...

Seems to me that everyone is buying all the available ammo up because they are afraid they won't be able to get any soon.

This is a classical case of supply and demand in action. The demand goes through the roof with a limited supply and price follows the demand right through the roof.

Now no one here has provided any proof that the high prices are a direct result of ANY action on the part of DoD.

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03-17-2009 02:00 PM  8 years agoPost 26
BJames111

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Spoken like a true liberal traitor.
again, very nice George. You are unable to participate in a rational debate so you resort to name calling?

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03-17-2009 03:22 PM  8 years agoPost 27
JohnLund

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I'm not sure I've seen a part in the 2nd amendment that guarantees your right to inexpensive ammunition.
The second amendment isn't "The right to Keep Arms" It is "The Right to Keep and Bear Arms". If the government makes brass unavailable to an already strained market it very much is affecting the right to bear arms.

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03-17-2009 06:26 PM  8 years agoPost 28
Greg McFadden

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I don't understand the problem. Can't you just reload the brass that you have
Unfortunately, brass does not have an infinite life. Depending on the loadings you may get as many (in my experience) as 10-20 reloads for certain loads and as few as 2-3 for others... so you do have to replace the brass periodically.

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03-17-2009 07:03 PM  8 years agoPost 29
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I'm not sure I've seen a part in the 2nd amendment that guarantees your right to inexpensive ammunition.
No,but it's something I love to do that is expensive enough.It's like if they did something to raise nitro prices causing your fuel to go up $10 a gallon because they want to price as many out of the hobby as possible without looking bad.

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03-17-2009 08:07 PM  8 years agoPost 30
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The fact remains, A. Bundy, that the 2nd amendment does not guarantee your right to inexpensive ammunition. Guns themselves aren't inexpensive, why aren't you crying about that?

Sh!t, I'd love to own a gun but I can't afford to pony up the grand it takes to own a decent firearm.

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03-17-2009 08:22 PM  8 years agoPost 31
A. Bundy

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No, it does not.......It's not a big deal until it's something you care about.

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03-17-2009 08:47 PM  8 years agoPost 32
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Yep, I suppose you are right...

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03-17-2009 09:43 PM  8 years agoPost 33
JohnLund

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The fact remains, A. Bundy, that the 2nd amendment does not guarantee your right to inexpensive ammunition. Guns themselves aren't inexpensive, why aren't you crying about that?
Inexpensive is a relative term, so it can not be debated, what can be debated is that companies are not going to be able to fill civilian orders BECAUSE of this policy change, and that is going to directly infringe upon the right of the people to keep and bear Arms.

And it doesn't take a grand to buy a "decent" firearm. there are MANY $500 or less firearms that are more than decent.

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03-17-2009 10:23 PM  8 years agoPost 34
philip 01

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Sh!t, I'd love to own a gun but I can't afford to pony up the grand it takes to own a decent firearm.
yet you fly r/c heli's.

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03-17-2009 11:31 PM  8 years agoPost 35
baby uh1

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Sh!t, I'd love to own a gun but I can't afford to pony up the grand it takes to own a decent firearm.
Your priorities are slightly out of wack but I understand as I have to make the choice between helis and guns wherever I get a few disposable bucks. Lately that hasn't been a problem as there is no bucks.

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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03-18-2009 12:20 AM  8 years agoPost 36
SSN Pru

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And it doesn't take a grand to buy a "decent" firearm. there are MANY $500 or less firearms that are more than decent.
Ok. Thanks for setting me straight.
yet you fly r/c heli's
Actually, I own one Trex 450 that hasn't flown in almost two years. I stopped flying heli's when my son was born becuase I knew I would go broke trying to keep them in the air.

Now, I mostly fly scratchbuilt foamies with equipment pillaged from my heli crap. A 2 dollar airframe is a lot easier to swallow than a $500 heli.

In any event, I digress...

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03-18-2009 06:22 PM  8 years agoPost 37
minan

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http://mainehuntingtoday.com/bbb/20...s-will-be-sold/

A reader has sent me a copy of a letter that was sent to a person of inquiry concerning the ruling about the Department of Defense’s announcement that they would mutilate all military spent brass. It appears, according to the letter, that “upon review” it has been decided to go ahead and allow the sale of non-mutilated brass.

The Defense Reutilization and Marketing Service (DRMS), a field activity of the Defense Logistics Agency (DLA), is the Department of Defense (DOD) activity responsible for the disposition of excess and surplus DOD
Property.

The primary focus of the DRMS mission is to protect national security by ensuring property is properly identified for reutilization and disposition and not released for public sale when to do so would jeopardize national security.

During the past two years, DRMS revised its processes to further ensure only appropriate items were made available for public sale. To strengthen current controls and to mitigate future security risk, the DOD issued policy that prohibits the sale of military unique items controlled by the Department of State through its Munitions List.

Small arms cartridge cases are identified as a sensitive Munitions List item and were held pending review of the policy relating to the category of items in which cartridge cases were included. Upon review, the
Defense Logistics Agency has determined the cartridge cases could be appropriately placed in a category of government property allowing for their release for sale.

The DRMS sales contractor has been notified of this decision and has begun the process of reoffering the cases that have been held pending completion of the policy review. As was previously required, buyers who
purchase cartridge cases from the government must be approved to do so under Trade Security Controls.

Sincerely,
Tonya Johnson
Defense Logistics Agency
Public Affairs Specialist

Tom Remington

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03-18-2009 06:35 PM  8 years agoPost 38
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03-18-2009 07:23 PM  8 years agoPost 39
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Hey John, I think you are trying to accuse someone of flip-flopping?

Am I right?

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03-18-2009 07:35 PM  8 years agoPost 40
JohnLund

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Trying not to be toooo obvious, did it work?

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