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03-16-2009 03:16 PM  8 years agoPost 1
Michaelinpr

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As I look at all of the helis to buy for a second heli I keep finding this one. Mostly I like the weird look of it. But It also looks well designed in my exterme newbie opinion. Here is the adress.

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/..._w/_ESC_&_Motor

What do you guys think?

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03-16-2009 04:24 PM  8 years agoPost 2
rotormonkey

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Well I have no personal experience with this particular heli, but I'm impressed. It's even uglier than the Swift, and that's no small accomplishment. This is hands down the ugliest heli I've ever seen. It'll definately grab attention.

Not that I'm knocking it, many like the swift too. Not me

Anyways, on a more serious note, it looks like it's decent quality, and I can't imagine hobbycity.com is going anywhere any time soon (assuming SJM is a house brand). So you should probably be able to get parts online for some time to come. Only downside (or maybe not for you) is you're probably not going to be able to get parts for it at the LHS.

Edit: It may look like the quality is good, but it's really hard to tell without actually being able to touch it. I'm not sure I'm a big fan of the landing gear design. Looks pretty rigid. If so you may end up breaking the frame with hard landings and in crashes more than you would with the usual design. The head design is kinda nifty though.

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03-16-2009 04:33 PM  8 years agoPost 3
Michaelinpr

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I was thinking the same thing about the landing gear. As for getting parts here in Puerto Rico I am out of luck for almost any brand. Only parts available are some trex, align, e-flite and they are very limited.

It is ugly that is for sure but that is part of the attraction I think. It kind of looks like some kind of dinosoar to me. Mostly I liked the design of the rotor head and Tail rotor.

Anyway.....

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03-17-2009 11:35 AM  8 years agoPost 4
Will Holland

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Best to stick with what is popular, I hate to say it but....Trex. Not to be trendy but for parts availability, sure you can get anything online but it's a drag when you dink it in on a Thursday and have to spectate at the field for the weekend because your parts wont be in till Monday.

I hate a Trex..but like how everyone carries parts for mine

It's only a toy...FLY IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!!!

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03-17-2009 12:12 PM  8 years agoPost 5
Michaelinpr

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The more I search for a second heli the more I come accross T-Rex. Thinking 500 size. Why do you hate the T-Rex? Seems to me to be a good Heli. And like you said the availabillity is a bonus.

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03-17-2009 12:26 PM  8 years agoPost 6
Will Holland

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Nothing really, I'm just a Miniature Aircraft fan and Quality doesn't compare...but neither does Price and availability! I sold my MA Graphite in favor of cheaper crash parts and not having to buy online
Not to mention the "Pucker" factor is by far grater with a Heli that has hard to obtain parts (either cost or availability)

As soon as I can afford $500 crashes again...I'm going back to Min Air! Now where did I put that dollar for the Lottery ticket

It's only a toy...FLY IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!!!

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03-17-2009 12:30 PM  8 years agoPost 7
Michaelinpr

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LOL Im still looking for that winning ticket I threw in the garbage.

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03-17-2009 01:42 PM  8 years agoPost 8
rotormonkey

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imho Align quality is subpar from what I've seen. It's not BAD, but it isn't great either. There are many 450s you could get that are nicer. But again, you can't beat 'em for parts availability. Since the LHSes in your area don't stock much of that either, you might want to just order stuff online anyway.

If you get a few of the common spares for backup you won't have to worry about downtime anyway. All depends on how you want to go about it.

imho if you really like the looks of that SJM bird go for it. Ultimately a helicopter is a helicopter. They'll all fly. And if nobody ever tried any heli that was new or unproven we'd still be flying GMP Crickets.

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03-17-2009 02:20 PM  8 years agoPost 9
Michaelinpr

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I do all of my oredering online anyway because the LHSes in Puerto Rico really dont have anything in the area of helis. Mostly just cars. However even though I stocked up on parts for my Falcon, I made an ordering blunder and I cant fly because I am missing an 80 cent gear for the tail rotor. I thought it came with the tail gear boxes that I bought. Oops! However, of what they do carry they seem to have T-rex parts. On the other hand I dont want to buy a heli strictly on the local availabillity of parts. I just thought that T-rex helis were of good quality based on the popularity.

What is your choice for quality helis Rotor Monkey?

Michael

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03-17-2009 03:18 PM  8 years agoPost 10
rotormonkey

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Reasons align is popular are parts cost and availability. Honestly they ARE quality helis too. Just there's better to be had in the same price range that's all.

In the 450 realm, all I've flown is the Trex 450. There was slop in the swash right from the get-go, and the washout block has developed quite a bit of slop over the year (well, few months really) that I've flown it.

As for what I'd suggest as an alternative - since I have no personal experience with any of the other's it'd be based entirely on hearsay, and what I've seen others flying.

I've had the opportunity to poke around at the Beam. That's a nice little heli, and costs about the same as the Trex sev2. Very tight head - no slop, all aluminum.

If you aren't into the bling, I've heard the mini titan is a nice little heli too, and comes in a fair bit cheaper than the rexes I believe.

All that being said, if you like the SJM, why not give that a whack?

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03-20-2009 02:36 AM  8 years agoPost 11
gonkulator

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SJM 325 and CF pro

I have two of the 325's and two CF/pro's. I really enjoy flying them. I try to take the 325 out daily. Great support for the 325 and rc-tek.com just got some more in. I've never had to wait for parts and Scott at rc-tek is a class act. I started with them and am now working up to finishing my evo 50. If you do get one and need any help, let me know. If you want some pics let me know.

Is this fun or what :)......

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03-20-2009 02:39 AM  8 years agoPost 12
gonkulator

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SJM 325 and CF pro

By the way, the birds from Rc-tek.com come with the motor, and esc-bec, carbon fiber blades, K&B tail blades and they have a tri tail upgrade that rocks. All for $339.95 here is a link
http://www.rc-tek.com/us_store/sjm3...ombo-p1819.html

Is this fun or what :)......

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03-20-2009 11:38 AM  8 years agoPost 13
Will Holland

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And if nobody ever tried any heli that was​new or unproven we'd still be flying GMP​Crickets.

I never had the cricket...I did have the rebel though!!

Seriously, if you HAVE to buy online...fly what your heart desires
I just have no fear with my little 450 and like you, always seem to miss that one when I place an order so it's nice to be able to run down and pick up that 80 cent piece.
I don't worry about crash parts for my 600 though, it shuold be in one piece for some time (is what happens when your skeered, you don't fly hard enough to crash)

It's only a toy...FLY IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!!!

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