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03-16-2009 11:11 PM  8 years agoPost 41
J murf

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hi guys......just an idea .why dont some of you write some good articles for the mags instead of dissing then ??????

See i,m hovering..thats advanced warning of a crash

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03-17-2009 01:06 AM  8 years agoPost 42
freakyreef

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Articles for what magazine. RC heli will be no more from what I read at their site. It is being replaced with an expanded version Model Airplane News.

I for one am disappointed. Not AT them, but I will miss the monthly magazine as it will now be a quarterly mag rather than the monthly fix of heli reading I get now.

Walk on water long enough, eventually you will get your feet wet.

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03-17-2009 01:09 AM  8 years agoPost 43
Dood

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RC heli will be no more from what I read at their site. It is being replaced with an expanded version Model Airplane News.
Certainly you are confusing 2 separate magazines.

RC Heli and RC Helicopter.
"RC Helicopter" is a spinoff of Model Airplane News.

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03-17-2009 01:32 AM  8 years agoPost 44
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If I were going to church and the pastor looked like a punk rocker do I trust him with my soul??? Nope!

If I were going to war do I want the general in charge of the operation to look like a punk rocker?? No. I want an distinguished old man, sharply dressed,that has been in the trenches and came out highly decorated, giving the orders.

Do you dare trust a stockbroker with your life savings when he looks like a punk???? Ummm no.

The surgeon has a mohawk, you going to let him cut you open??? I dont think so.

Your friendly airline pilot looks like a punk are you gonna wonder if this is his first day on the job???

If I need a lawyer, again the punk rocker aint gonna cut it in the courtroom. Doesnt mean he isnt a capable litigator does it??? It is simply bad perception.
well that day is comming....you will soon enough.

Fly Hard......Team Viagra

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03-17-2009 01:44 AM  8 years agoPost 45
freakyreef

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I hope your right Dood! I did not realize there were 2 mags so closely named.
In fact, I REALLY hope your right. You probably are, so I'll just shut up now.

Walk on water long enough, eventually you will get your feet wet.

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03-17-2009 02:21 AM  8 years agoPost 46
busyflyin

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OK.. Dood nails it again when he is talking about the RC heli enthusiast not being an adolescent.

But RCHeli; what I would like to see you do differently is in your heli reviews. Not every flyer is a 3D stick banger. Not every heli is intended to be a 3D heli.. some are scale focused, some are beginner focused, and so on. Create 3 general categories and rate them within their categories. I've seen some excellent helis get rated lower than excellent just because they aren't intended for the stick bangers. How about these three categories;
1. 3D ie Vibe, K3d, 600N, etc
2. Sport flight ie; Raptor (no offense, I love mine) Caliber 6, Hawk Pro
3. Casual flight; ie; all of the coaxials, all of the CP's etc.

Help me pick the heli I want for the purpose I want to use it for. Quit assuming that we all want or can fly 3D.

This is a MAJOR pet peeve of mine. Get wit it!

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03-17-2009 04:33 AM  8 years agoPost 47
ArtK

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The perspective of one of the contributing​writers...

I remember what drew me to the magazine to begin with and that was the fun element the magazine puts out. I am a contributing writer and a professional and I was drawn to this hobby, this forum and RC Heli's for its fun and not for how stuffy it could be. The guys at RC Heli love their job and they are simply sharing their enthusiasm with all of you. Yes they are young at heart guys into the pop culture, but all of us are to some degree. I tend to trust the highly professional and polished Maydoff's far less than the pierced pop culture kid.

As for the articles I write. I go out of my way to find a balance between sharing knowledge with all and stimulating the most advance helicopter enthusiast. I use sources such as graduate texts, naval flight manuals, online journals, interviews with vendors and technical experts, and in very large part RunRyder. Runryder has been a great source of information to understand the direction this hobby is going as well as the practical experiences many hobby enthusiast are having. My reviews are not only based on my experiences but yours as well. In large part we are all test pilots that post our experiences here on RR.

Thanks RR for your comments, they are appreciated certainly by me. Even though I might make 99% of the people happy(maybe that is a stretch, most guys that read my stuff fall asleep), I still think about the few that don't. I am always open to constructive feedback in my reviews and my columns.

Kind Regards,
Art K.

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03-17-2009 02:31 PM  8 years agoPost 48
cbflys

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As a contributing writer for RC Heli Magazine, I have to agree with Art...

We must balance "over the top" technical information with interesting reading. And we need to do that pretty quickly - this isn't a text book, it's a magazine; which for the most part serves as a source of entertainment. There are loads of publications available that go into microscopic detail on every little aspect of flight dynamics, electronics, etc. And although it can be interesting to a few of us - I'm pretty sure most don't care.

Personally, I try to present information at a level that not only informs, but gives some explanation as to why things are done the way they are. And I hope that my articles can help get a heli flying to the point where someone can be begin to be successful and enjoy the hobby. When I do product reviews - I write what I experience. I have no loyalty to any particular brand. If I like something, you'll know it. If I don't, you'll know that to. Where things can be measured and absoulte data can be compiled, you'll get it. Case in point are my radio reviews. We veryify the specs and give you the absolute truth data.

I read all the forums every single day. I hear everything said about us, both good and bad. Constructive critisism is absolutely welcome. Suggestions for articles are always considered. But as is human nature, downright bashing essentially gets ignored. I'm in this for the enjoyment as well. Believe me, it doesn't pay well!

If there's something you'd like written about, or photos taken of - all you need to do is ask. If it's within my area of expertise, I'll get around to it. If I don't personally know the facts or answers, rest assured that I have access to those who do. As a professional engineer for over 30 years, I believe I have the experience necessary to weed out fact from fiction. I never write about anything I haven't experienced or experimented with myself. Anyone can write, but if you want to gain the respect of your peers, you need to be able to back up your words with data when called to the carpet. That's how one gains credibility. It's no big suprise that our ultimate goal is to make our readers want come back for more. I believe the only way to do that is to give them what they're looking for. Thanks for the feedback and thanks for reading.

Regards,
Chuck Bassani

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03-17-2009 03:39 PM  8 years agoPost 49
RCHeliJim

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Well said Art and Chuck!

I am also one of those involved with the magazine. Without going into a long winded post, I just want to mirror the sentiments above. I make the greatest effort in each article to convey both a professional and personal touch. IMO, an article has to do two things: Convey the intended data and connect with the reader. Not every article or photo layout will appeal to every reader, just not possible to please everyone with everything. I feel that there is something for everyone in the magazine, if you will take the time to actually read through it.

Most of us involved with the magazine are hobbiests (sp?). The writing gig is part time and the pay is minimal, we are certainly not doing it for the money I was involved with this hobby long before RCH published its first issue, and will be involved in this hobby for many, many years to come. I love model helicopters; I love building them, flying them, setting them up, talking about them, reading about them, and writing about them. The main reason I started working for RC Heli Mag is because I love the hobby and I truly believe RCH can be a vehicle to get more people involved in this great hobby of ours.

I go through a detailed process of fact checking for each and every article I put out there. If you ever see anything in one of my pieces that you feel is erroneous, please let me know.

Lastly, I am one of the writers for the magazine that is not really into stick banging 3D - so those of you that have commenteed here about more FAI and scale content are being heard. In fact, in the most recent issue I did a piece on the experience I had building my first scale ship last year. I think you can expect to see more and more content of this type as time goes on.

We appreciate any feedback, good or bad, as long as something constructive can become of it. Plain old bashing just gets filtered off at this point. And do please send feedback on the magazine layout, photos, article ideas, etc. We are here to write on topics that our readers are currently interested in, so let us know what you want in there

Thanks for the feedback and for reading - Jim Innes



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03-18-2009 12:04 AM  8 years agoPost 50
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My constructive suggestions for RC Heli mag:

1. Dont rerun pics that have already been used in a previous issue.

2. When you review a pro ie. Matt Botos dont ask questions unrelated to the hobby regarding superstitions, songs on ipod etc... We want to know what unique practices he uses that may be helpful to us in building ,setup and flying. Close up pics of the machines they fly would be a plus.

3. More technical articles, they are great.

4. "Shootout" style reviews comparing products back to back. We want to know what is king of the hill and why.

5. Radio comparos.

6. Please, no more micro heli articles they arent a good representation of this hobby. At least cut way back on them.

7. More scale stuff.

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03-18-2009 12:57 AM  8 years agoPost 51
ErichF

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I assisted Shawn Kitchen with an article on Precision heli aerobatics (FAI) about a year ago. It never went to print, because it wasn't an interest area of the editors...or so I was led to believe.

There never has been any mention of the US Heli Nationals, for either precision aerobatics or the scale comps. I guess I can't blame them, since the current heli columnist for Model Aviation (AMA Mouthpiece) didn't write one word about the AMA's own heli Nats.

I am a firm believer that the current state of RCH is for the punk 3D stick banger and newbie looking for another $200 throw-away heli, and not much else. I continue my subscription, however, as occasionally there are product announcements and useful vendor ads.

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03-18-2009 01:16 AM  8 years agoPost 52
Dood

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You can tell the die-hard fans of the magazine take it pretty personal when someone criticizes the magazine.

RR Members are "D-Bags", as one says.

http://rchelimag.com/forum/showthre...3082#post53082.

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Chuck, Art, Jim,

You guys just keep doing what you do, that is writing.
Understand that the criticism, at least what is from me, is not for you guys, but for Mike Velez the Editor-in-Chief and publisher.

The criticism I have, I suppose, is also for the art director responsible for the images and current layout of the magazine.

And also for whoever decides to review every piece-of-junk chinese helicopter that comes through the front door.

If there is nothing worthy of reviewing in a particular month, then IMO there just shouldn't be any reviews that month.

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03-18-2009 01:39 AM  8 years agoPost 53
ArtK

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RC Heli and RR

RC Heli and RR
Notice how all the writers are Senior and above RR members.
We all come from the same family. And it's a small family. So let's have the constructive feedback but let's be friends and professional about it.

All of us are listening including Mike. Its just not that simple to satisfy everyone.

Take for example the small electrics. I like them personally. I think it is amazing how in the past four years the hobby has grown to the point that the small electric heli's are even at Longs drug store. What is wrong with reviewing them. The magazine reviews everything it gets its hands on. There is no preference. They have reviewed gassers to the MCX. There is no agenda of what they will review. They review them all.

Thanks,
Art K.

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03-18-2009 01:54 AM  8 years agoPost 54
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Take for example the small electrics. I like them personally. I think it is amazing how in the past four years the hobby has grown to the point that the small electric heli's are even at Longs drug store. What is wrong with reviewing them.
You cant be serious. Have you ever flown (is that a word?) a 90 or even a 50???? I agree they have their place, but not as a primary machine.

These things are not in the same league.They are unstable and dont realy do anything well.They are just cute and inexpensive but not good for beginners IMHO. Just because the chi-com sweatshops are kicking out new ones every two weeks doesnt mean they should be a motivating force for magazine content.

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03-18-2009 02:35 AM  8 years agoPost 55
ArtK

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Yes, I have flown many and I am serious about​the mini electrics.

Here is my list of helicopters I have owned:

Concept 30
Hummingbird
Shogun
Trex 450
Raptor 50
Knight 3D
Trex 600 Electric
Trex 600 Nitro
Vibe 90
HDX 450
Outrage 450
MSH Protos
Walkera 500
Shark TZ 50
Kyosho Caliber 450
gaui200

I have also flown:
Aurora
Century Gasser
Rave 3D
Shark TZ 90
Blade CP

Current fleet is all electric and Flybarless(Except for the MCX):
Logo 600
Trex 500
Art's FrankenHeli 350 (Composed of Outrage, HDX, Trex, Blade 400, and Dragonus parts)
Blade MCX

I love electrics for the ability to control and modify their power delivery as well as their cleanliness. I like all of the helicopters I have owned. They fly a bit different and offer a different experience. I especially like the MCX since I can fly it while sitting on my couch watching TV.
The ones I keep flying are simply a matter of parts availability and timing. I think it is very exciting to see something like the MCX fly so well for such a low price.

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03-18-2009 06:27 AM  8 years agoPost 56
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I suppose if RC Heli shouldn't review the "lowly" helicopters, then Car & Driver shouldn't review the Ford Focus, and 4x4 & Offroad should only do build articles on Range Rovers and skip Jeep Wrangler or Suzuki Samurai builds. Maybe Trailer Boats Magazine should only review Cobalt or Formula boats and skip Sea Ray and Bayliner boats. Maybe Bass & Walleye Boats Magazine should stick with Ranger or Stratos boats and skip the little tin Crestliners or Tracker boats.

Reviewing only top of the line helicopters would be doing the public a disservice. I like knowing what is out there, whether it is a Walkera or an Aurora. Like I said before, I would personally prefer a more mature layout, but I have no problem with the products reviewed. I have a stack of RC Heli on my shelf starting from spring 07 and most high end helicopters have shown up at some point, so I don't get where people think they only review the inexpensive gear. They can't help it there are fifteen Walkeras to every Synergy.

All I want is for the RC Car image to go away, most of us helicopter guys are grown ups, not teens or 20somethings still living at home, but I'll take what I can get. Even if my wife gives me the look when she sees the backwards hats and chicks. Yeah, she looks through out of interest of helicopters.

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03-18-2009 08:29 AM  8 years agoPost 57
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I'm tired of micro and mini heli reviews. I'm also tired of "the heli came in a colorful box and wasn't damaged".

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03-18-2009 08:32 AM  8 years agoPost 58
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I do know that Matt Botos refrigerator has "meat and potatoes". But for the life of me, I don't know what stuff he use or has in his flight box.

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03-18-2009 07:01 PM  8 years agoPost 59
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Thanks to everyone that reads RC Heli. Believe it or not our average reader is 39 years old. He's not a 14 year old punk with a mowhawk. I'm looking over the April issue and looking for these "punks" you speak of and can't seem to find any. I'm also looking for these articles that are written for the 14 year olds and I find that probably 75% of the magazine is written by Chuck Bassani, Art Koral, and Jim Innes, the same guys that some of you praised here. They're all fine writers as is all of our staff. Brandon Updike writes most of our "flying" articles and I'd classify him as one of the top 20 3D pilots in the country. Ryan, our in-house Editor has been flying helicopters for almost a decade and has a background as a trained machinist. Dood, Tmoore, etc, I may disagree, but I'm very open your input, complaints, etc. Sometimes you guys have valid points and they're useful. Like any business we always want to improve our product and service our customer (Readers) as best we can.

As for the comparisons to MHT, a fine magazine when it was published, unfortunately the number of people in the market for a magazine like MHT was/is very small. I don't mean to be sarcastic, but those of you that already know everything, you don't buy magazines. You already know everything, and you have forums like this one to let everyone know that fact.

Our goal and really duty to the reader and the industry is to give the greatest number of people a magazine that has articles that appeal to a broad audiance. RC Heli is the market leader, it has been since day one. We sell more magazines, have more subscribers, and are available on more newsstands than any other helicopter publication. The model we have to follow to have the greatest appeal possible is going to upset some of you that are looking only for the most technical or advanced articles. Although we do feature those type of articles on a regular basis, at least half of the magazine must be geared towards the beginner.

We will always try to improve the magazine and listen to our reader's feedback. We want to remain the torchbearer for our great hobby on newsstands across the country and around the world. Think of how many people across the country on any given Friday or Saturday night are at a Borders, or Barnes and Noble, or newsstand thumbing through magazines. It's super important to the growth of the industry that a well produced, good looking magazine is on that newsstand representing our industry that the new guy can pick up and jump right into. Airage (model airplane news) tried with their RC Helicopters (great name) and failed. Rotory and MHT's circulation was never on the scope of RC Heli's in terms of the Newsstand.Those two were primarily only in hobby shops. Maplegate (FlY) is trying with a one-off issue. If you guys like it then we'll take a look, see what they're doing right and try to incorporate that into ours. The result would be two good magazines for the industry.

Thanks again to all of you that read RC Heli, and even those of you who don't. And thanks Chuck, Art, and Jim for chiming in on the subject. If anyone wants to email me directly please do, mikev@rchelimag.com Especially if you think you can improve our magazine by being a possible contributor.

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03-18-2009 08:06 PM  8 years agoPost 60
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I don't mean to be sarcastic, but those of you that already know everything, you don't buy magazines. You already know everything, and you have forums like this one to let everyone know that fact.
Amen, brother. But it's secret knowledge - not to be shared in a positive way.
If anyone wants to email me directly please do, mikev@rchelimag.com Especially if you think you can improve our magazine by being a possible contributor.
Now it's nut cuttin' time. Kind of like when the club has a work day, the complainers usually stay home.

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