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HelicopterRadio - Futaba FASST › difference between 12z and 12 fg?
12-29-2008 04:41 AM  8 years agoPost 1
scott s.

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is one 2048 and the other isn`t?

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12-29-2008 05:03 AM  8 years agoPost 2
vetrider

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Yes, some differences are Channel assignments to the receiver, type battery (physically). Not sure but the gimble system might be a little better in the 12Z. Mostly minor stuff.

Here is more; http://www.futaba-rc.com/radios/feature-compare.html

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12-29-2008 07:26 AM  8 years agoPost 3
noahb

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they both are 2048 with the same rx's. they both use the same module.

as for channel assignments, they are the same as well when using 2.4. However with both you can asign any channel to any function.

for gimbles, the pots are the same, but the assemblys are not. I have been inside both radios and the pots have the same part no. on them.

Menu structure is nicer on the 12z. It also has a few minor "features" that the 12fg does not have (but could be mixed if needed)

The 12fg uses all three position switches except the momentary, the 12z has i think two switches that are only two position.

There is some minor diff. but not much. The 12z does have a seperate processor compared to the one for the 12fg.

I have used both and I own the 12fg. Much better radio for the money. I believe the 12fg is the best radio on the market for the money. I am a JR man myself, but this radio will go toe to toe with JR's 12x for half the money. IMHO.

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01-02-2009 06:00 AM  8 years agoPost 4
iskoos

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I did this research couple months ago.
I have couple of things to add to what's said above...

First they use different batteries. Correct but the difference is NOT only physical. One(12FG) uses regular Nicad/NiMH cells and oddly enough it uses 6 cell setup instead of conventional 8-cell.
12Z uses 2s Li-Ion(plastic cased) battery...

12Z can take a compact flash memory card. 12FG does NOT have this feature...

12Z has much bigger screen than 12FG and also 12Z has a joystick button like the one on new 10C. Joystick makes it much better and faster to use menu functions.

And when you buy 12Z, it comes with a metal carrying case. 12FG comes in a cheapy foam box...

So it may not seem alot at first but there is a quite a bit difference between two radios...

Would all these differences justify the big price difference?

Absolutely NOT...

I would pay a few more hundreds for all these features. But definitely not twice as much...

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01-02-2009 06:43 AM  8 years agoPost 5
noahb

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Not compact flash, but it does use an SD card which is similar, just diffrent format.

Yeah, it's nice to have the carrying case and all, and I agree if it was just a few hundred extra I would have got it. However I got it for almost half. almost...

The three things I like about the 12fg over the 12z is all switches are three position...no two position switches. Also, trim knobs on 12z, trim tabs t5 and t6 on 12fg.

and the 12fg lends itself to easy backlight mod...not so with the 12z.

I do like the 12z screen and joystick feature.

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01-02-2009 02:21 PM  8 years agoPost 6
smallplanes

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I have both and there both very equal radios. When i got my 12Z there where no such radios as the 12fgh so 12z it was. But now for the price i got my son's 12fgh for i would have two 12fgh's. Don't get me wrong i do like the 12z better but it not that much better just faster to setup,but hay once it's setup it just as good.lol I have not setup a heli with the fgh yet because i'm learning my son to fly smallplanes first. I think i will setup one of my evo 50's in trainer mode and see how it is. I have a question for some of you trainers out there,if i have my 12z allready setup to fly my 50 and i hook the 12fgh to it can i use the z as the master and not have to setup the fgh. I helped a friend learn to flyhelis on the buddy box and we both have 12z's so what we done was to put the flash card in his rdio and copy my model and the turn on trainer mode(VERY IMPORTANT MESSAGE HERE cut the throttle cut off the master radio we found out the hard way on this one)and it was setup just that easy. I have read here somewhere here that you don't have to setup the buddy box to train is that correct? The reason i'm asking is a friend of mine might buy a 7c and wants me to buddy box him with my 12z,do we have to setup his entire setup for it to work?

Thanks for the help

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01-02-2009 02:32 PM  8 years agoPost 7
summerwind

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don't forget that there really are some bigger differences no one has mentioned yet.
first of all the sticks, the stick assemblies on the 12Z cost 3 times as much, and maybe most novices can't feel the difference, but i sure can.
the 12Z also use a dual processer while the 12FG use one like the 10C.
and no, the 12FG is not a slopoke by any means.

the volume control allows the user to adjust 5 different settings.
a very nice feature when using the countdown timer at a noisy field.
also handy for programming at home and being able to turn the beeper down or even off so as not to annoy others.

the joysticks and return buttons really make function setting a bit easier on the 12Z too, but it's not hard to set things on a 12FG.

personally had the 12FG been available in Mode 1 configuration when i needed it i would have bought it. at the time i bought the 12Z, it was Mode1 and the timer volume adjustment that pushed me over the edge. the case is a perk in my mind, but still something one would buy for a radio of this calibur.

both great radios, but overall, features should be the primary concern, not cost in a pro series radio.

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01-02-2009 08:04 PM  8 years agoPost 8
noahb

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I would not call them big diffrences. Nice features, but not big.

Dual processors...what does that gain you?

The adj. volume is a big plus...I wish the 12fg had that.

The stick assemblys may cost three times as much, but they still use the same pot. So as for precision and resolution, it's the same. Now the 12z may be more smooth which is nice.

I have seen inside both radios and the 12z does have a lot more stuff inside of it then the 12fg. Dual processors...

The joystick is a nice feature.

But when it comes down to programming...they both are so very close.

One thing I like over the 12z is that it has two digital trim levers (t5 and t6) over the knob on the 12z. This is useful in setting up trims for diffrent functions and not worrying about if the knob got bumped or not.

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01-02-2009 09:17 PM  8 years agoPost 9
summerwind

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you're right..........they are big deals to me, but for those who want to save a ton of money, the 12FG is the best choice if not the best deal at this time.

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01-05-2009 02:25 AM  8 years agoPost 10
andyman_sf

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Why buy a 12FG when you can buy a 12Z for a little less used? If anyone is interested I'll sell them my 12Z + aluminum case for $850 + shipping. Will come with the 72mhz module.

andy

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01-05-2009 03:26 AM  8 years agoPost 11
merlin3

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umm i picked up my 12fgh for $500 brand new off of a guy so I think that's quite the price difference. If it was a $50 difference it may be worth it but there's just nothing to me that makes the 12z worth it.

Justin - Team Horizon, Team Byron
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04-10-2009 05:21 AM  8 years agoPost 12
Ragz

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I have a 14mz, love it.. but find it too slow for setups. I mainly fly jets and now helis, and the 14mz is just too slow in terms of the screens refreshing and somehow, I am not a fan of the touch screen as I always end up having to use the stylus for changing parameters...maybe thats only me.

I also have 2 9 caps that I absolutely adore. However, now its time for an upgrade. I would like to retain one 9cap for my son, but I would like to upgrade the other with either a 12z or a 12 FG. After reading here, seems like the FG is the ticket. If the interface is like a 9cap and if it has the fast g3 system, then I am set. The only reason I am upgrading is to be able to use the faster g3 and servo grouping feature for better eCCPM heli setups.

Cheers

Anurag

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04-10-2009 06:17 AM  8 years agoPost 13
noahb

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Ragz, I think either the 12z or 12fg would suit you just fine. The 12z is a little better radio. You can navigate the menus a bit faster then the 12fg. The menus are also nicer.

However, if you want the best radio of the money IMO, then I would go with the 12fg. Plus, if you have basic electrical skills you can easily convert the screen to a backlight screen.

I too fly jets and the 12fg does everything I can think I would ever need it to do and more.

Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

Cheers!

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04-10-2009 06:34 AM  8 years agoPost 14
spdntckt

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One thing to keep in mind is that you can transfer models between 12Z and 14MZ easily (just use the CF card and swap it)

I am not sure the model programming can go between 14mz and 12FG (perhaps someone can confirm). given the programing differences it may not be straightforward.

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04-10-2009 06:37 AM  8 years agoPost 15
Ragz

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Oh thats a great point. I would like cross compatibility between the two radios.

Anurag

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04-10-2009 10:30 AM  8 years agoPost 16
UK Helinut

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Yes you can now swap models between the 14Mz 12Mz and 12Fg through the new model converter software.

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04-10-2009 02:42 PM  8 years agoPost 17
smallplanes

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Where can i get the model converter from i would like to have it? I have a 12Z and a 12FGH and i would like to download settings from my 12Z to the 12FGH.

Thanks for any info


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04-10-2009 04:08 PM  8 years agoPost 18
DougV

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04-10-2009 04:08 PM  8 years agoPost 19
bbaxter

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04-10-2009 04:47 PM  8 years agoPost 20
noahb

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bbaxter

Do you know how to set the time to the top momentarty switch where it will toggle the timer off and on? If not, can you guys put that in software and we update it?

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