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12-28-2008 09:34 PM  8 years agoPost 1
Pappy35

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I recently purchased a set of 410's. The stats were similar to the HS-65MG's I had so, being about $10 cheaper for each, I put a set in my Beam.

I was dismayed to find that, though they're billed as metal gear servos, the final output gear is plastic. I just got back from crashing my Beam (which is how I found this out) and broke the output gear on one of the servos. I must have crashed those HS-65's a hundred times (mostly in a T-Rex 450) and never once hurt the servos. In fact, these thoroughly beat up and abused HS-65MG's are still tight enough to trust so I put them in a new electric plank I got.

Long story short, though the 410/420's are nice, they are not fully metal geared and so I would NOT recommend anyone get them if metal gears are important.

Al T

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12-29-2008 06:19 PM  8 years agoPost 2
Pappy35

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Update:

Talked to the retailer who refused to accept them on return since they were out of the package and one is damaged. They referred me to AlignRC USA (.com). Calling them I explained that I felt the marketing of these servos as 'metal geared' was misleading. They are going to talk to their managers to see what, if anything, can be done.

I don't blame the retailer (though I'm put-off that they wouldn't carry the ball on this) and to their credit they changed their site to indicate the reality of the product: 2 of five gears are metal, the rest, including the output shaft, are plastic.

The servos themselves are nice and comparable to the competition (HS-65 for example). They're just not as advertised which is what I'm pissed about - I would not have bought them if I'd known the truth about the gearchain.

Al T

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12-29-2008 07:07 PM  8 years agoPost 3
WRXRonald

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hilarious...

Did Align actually think nobody would open up their servo after it busted from a crash and inspect the gears?

This is pretty par for the Align course though. Nothing is 'ever' quite as advertised. They come close... but not quite.

What's funny about these heli manufucaturers... they really did not lie to you or post ANY erroneous advertising whatsoever.

They simply are marketing cleverly... And its working. How many impulse buyers do you suppose they have now for people who are "DRAWN" to the sell of metal gears in a tiny servo. Matter of fact they watch the market, see that HS65's are gaining leg up on the back of "metal" gears... and then they pounce.

They produced a heli that indeed "has metal gears". Sure, it also happens to have "plastic" gears too.... But no one really asked that question.

I agree fully ethics would suggest you shouldn't sell something under the guise of metal gears if its not fully metal geared... but guarantee this little servo is generating CASH PROFITS for their company - - - therefore they COULDN'T care less.

A few months, enough busted plastic gears, peeved customers, and shouting on the forums and there will be the 410M produced by Align... "ALL metal gear servo", and they'll make a killing off that too. Maybe they'll even be nice enough to offer metal gear replacments to all the folks who bought the original 410's with only "some" metal gears inside.

Doesn't this also mean you are p!ss out of a servo right now? I don't imagine there are gear replacement sets out there yet for these... I never want a servo in my heli that doesn't manufacture spare gearsets. I have also thought in tiny servos like this that stripped gears are just part of the deal in the game. I have kept at least 8 spare karbonite sets on hand for crashes... for the HS56's - at $27 a pop you can't be replacing the whole servo all the time. Funny thing is 7 out of 10 times its the same gear that gets busted... so now I'm overweight with a bunch of karbonite gears (at $4-6 per set) that I won't ever really need, and getting short on the one I do need. Maybe its time I look at the 65's, with FULL metal gears. Of course that means the impact is going get absorbed elsewhere.... bent metal head parts or something else expensive probably.

Thanks for the info - you opened the case on this one in my book. Now time will tell "how deep the rabbit hole goes"

Good Day: crashed thx to dumb thumbs. Bad Day: crashed mechanical malfunction. Every Day: CRASH :)

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01-17-2009 03:41 AM  8 years agoPost 4
Djm2U

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This is not new? Companys like Hitec have been selling metal gear servos with one plastic gear for years. I would hardly single out Align.

Just my 2 cents.

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01-17-2009 04:12 AM  8 years agoPost 5
Pappy35

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I could understand if the plastic gears were not on the load-path (driving the pot). If you call it metal-geared, to me that means metal from the motor to the output shaft. I have never seen one billed as metal-geared that didn't meet this until I bought the 410 (not doubting you, just that I haven't seen one).

Al T

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01-17-2009 04:15 AM  8 years agoPost 6
Djm2U

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It may only be certin models. Im mostly a car guy the Hitec 85mg has always had a plastic gear.

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01-17-2009 04:39 AM  8 years agoPost 7
Heli 770

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Most metal gear servos has one plastic gear to isolate RF feedback to the potentiometer.

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01-18-2009 05:39 AM  8 years agoPost 8
kevlar11

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The final output is plastic what a joke! Resistance is not futile!

KD

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04-09-2009 10:21 AM  8 years agoPost 9
krashtagain

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ohio

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Footaba and JR servos are the same , all metal and 1 plastic . Something has to give .

If you're not living on the edge you're just taking up space !

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04-12-2009 03:44 AM  8 years agoPost 10
Craig9080

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Just to make it clear

The ONE plastic gear in the other MG servos is the gear to the potentiometer, which has no stress or load EVER put on it. It gets input from the powertrain, and then rotates the zero resistance potentiometer knob. This is a smart engineering move, as stated befor, it isolated RF interference from the metal gears, and it save weight and expense on top of that.

"I hover like a Pro"

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04-13-2009 11:27 AM  8 years agoPost 11
awangbiz

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sorry to hear your story man.. i nearly buy these align servos.
BTW can i replace my HS65 HB karbonite gear to metal gear sets. had anyone here try this before?

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04-13-2009 02:40 PM  8 years agoPost 12
Craig9080

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Yes, the Metal gears are a drop in replacement

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