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12-28-2008 07:50 PM  8 years agoPost 1
mgjones

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I restarted this topic from the Beginners corner on a recommendation.

I just ordered a brand new BeltCP v2 2.4G Friday. It should arrive sometime this week.

All of my previous experience is with ground based RC equipment - this will be my first helicopter.

I'm pretty familiar with basic electric stuff from my off-road RC racing days, but this stuff is much more mechanically intricate than I'm accustomed to.

What should I do for a good setup on this supposedly RTF kit when I take it out of the box?

Are there any tools that are a "must have" to do this right?

What kind of snags am I likely to run into with this thing?

Thanks loads!

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12-28-2008 08:04 PM  8 years agoPost 2
tryan02

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http://www.dream-models.com/eco/flying-index.html

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12-28-2008 08:11 PM  8 years agoPost 3
Gregor99

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Welcome fellow Seattlite! Not sure what you got with the kit but here's a few items that you will want:

Right away
1) Pitch gauge
2) Training gear

As soon as you can. Better to have these before the first crash
1) Spare blades (I highly recommend the Align wood blades, you can get this online or at a LHS (local hobby shop)
2) Spare main shaft and spindle
3) Spare main gear

As your budget allows

Nice 4s charger
http://www.fmadirect.com/new_applications/multi4.html
More batteries. Lots to choose from. I like the FMA and Outrage packs.

Study that RADDs training sent. I have a background in RC cars and this is tons harder. But its worth it!

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12-28-2008 08:38 PM  8 years agoPost 4
Gregor99

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Almost forgot, you'll want to get one of these, online or at a LHS.

http://www.helidirect.com/product_i...products_id=723

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12-28-2008 09:01 PM  8 years agoPost 5
mgjones

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Gregor99:

Thanks for the welcome, and the advice.

There's a set of training gear coming with the heli. I figured that'll help.

I've read over Radd's guide too - looks good.

Kind of wondering if I should go get a set of ball link pliers.

- Michael

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12-28-2008 09:50 PM  8 years agoPost 6
L8ASUSL

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The best tool to have is patience, something i'm lacking.

Kevin

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12-28-2008 10:05 PM  8 years agoPost 7
mgjones

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They "say" that patience is a virtue.. I'm​not convinced ;)

Kevin,

Lack of patience is an affliction that I share. Hopefully I'll be able to control my impatience and not destroy something.

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12-28-2008 10:18 PM  8 years agoPost 8
L8ASUSL

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The training gear I got with the HBK2 rtf sucked. I went to Walmart and bought 2 carbon arrows and 4 nerf training golf balls. I cut the arrows down, stripped the feathers, and put the golf balls on the ends. They were longer so the heli really had to be falling at a steep angle for the blades to hit. It just gave me a little more reassurance.
I learned to hover about 16 inches off the ground. Was probably still in the downwash but I never tore anything up that way.

Kevin

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12-29-2008 03:23 AM  8 years agoPost 9
Gregor99

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Kind of wondering if I should go get a set of ball link pliers.
Yes, these are quite handy. You can get by without them on a 450 but they are nice to have.

One more thing, you'll need some narrow walled 5.5mm nut drivers to get the bolts off the feathering shaft. I've heard you can get these at auto parts stores. Or you can get the Esky one from Jags (bottom of the page)
http://www.jaghobbies.com/rc_planes/beltcp2.htm

You can either get two, or only one then hold the other one with needle nose pliers. I hold the other nut with an old Tamiya 4-in-1 tool that came with one of my RC cars. You might have one of these in your tool box from the old days

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12-29-2008 03:35 AM  8 years agoPost 10
broggyr

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you'll need some narrow walled 5.5mm nut drivers to get the bolts off the feathering shaft.
You can spend 9.99 for one of those at Jags, or buy 2 of these 5.5mm drivers at 3.98 each (I have these for my King, works for belt too):
http://www.ushobbysupply.com/produc...24ff5d2759c5ab0

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12-29-2008 04:57 AM  8 years agoPost 11
mgjones

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Greg, Yea. I probably have a couple of those 4 way wrenches in my old RC field box.. got a lot of use for wheels and differentials if I remember correctly.

I'm rather partial to tools with a real handle. I'll have to see if the LHS has them, or pick them up on line somewhere (broggyr: thanks for the link - looks like a good deal)

Do I need any sizes other than the 5.5 on a regular basis?

Looks like I'll have to put together a small shopping list before the end of the week.

Needless to say, I'm anxiously waiting my package (ordered it from Raiden on Friday).

- Michael

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12-29-2008 05:33 AM  8 years agoPost 12
Gregor99

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Not sure what screws are included on the Belt, but a good set of hex wrenches is usally handy. Also, good quality phillips drivers of various sizes are good to have on hand.

On my HBK2, I replaced the phillips head screws on the motor with cap screws. The only way to get to them is with a ball headed hex driver.

Here's the Align set I'm currently using. I bought the ball headed ones in my RC Car days, don't remember where.

http://www.helidirect.com/product_i...products_id=529

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12-29-2008 05:55 AM  8 years agoPost 13
mgjones

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I do have a good collection of tools from my racing days (ball end Hex drivers etc) so I'm covered there. I just don't have any of the fancy thin wall nut drivers.

One more thing on the shopping list.

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01-03-2009 09:57 AM  8 years agoPost 14
mgjones

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3 days and counting.. Will non Esky Parts fit​the BeltCP v2??

My BeltCP v2 is scheduled to arrive (if you can trust the shipping estimate on UPS) on Monday the 5th.

I did the rounds at the LHS today and picked up some tools (hex drivers, ball link pliers). I didn't get the Pitch guage yet ("they" recommended that I wouldn't need until I break a blade... ) Nobody had the blade balancers and I can't afford a fancy charger yet (2 kids, wife that stays home, and a mortgage.. toy budget is pretty tight )

Nobody carries Esky parts around here (grumble) but both of the stores within 10 min of my house carry a lot of align stuff.

I've heard that some of the align T-Rex parts will fit the BeltCP? I assume if they'll fit the BeltCP they'll fit the v2?

Anyone have an idea which parts will cross over? I'm thinking mostly the parts that break a lot when you're starting out (blades, gears, servos, etc). Or, will it be better to just "stock" certain parts on my bench?

Your thoughts?

Thanks,

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01-03-2009 10:56 AM  8 years agoPost 15
Melnic

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Local hobby people may turn their nose up at an Esky heli so be prepared. I have not gone to local shops and even talked about what I fly in years. I just ask for what I need and move on. Usually they don't have what I want anyway except for nuts and bolts (and not even then).

USB simulator BOX!!!!!!!!

Go ahead and get a seperate one even if the BeltCP comes w/ a simulator cable. That way, your not constantly switching dip switches on the Tx or burning batteries.

Try the free heli simulators or spend some $$ for a better one (I use Clearview)

Your 5.5mm hex wrench for your car may not fit into the blades when you need them. Driver has to be thin.

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01-03-2009 03:40 PM  8 years agoPost 16
tryan02

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I didn't get the Pitch guage yet ("they" recommended that I wouldn't need until I break a blade... )
Sounds like something a LHS would say.

I would worry about my heli being setup right before I would worry about 5.5mm nutdrivers to change the spindle. The guys are right about the nut drivers and hexhead tools. But maybe just maybe if you go over it look it over understand it setup everything perfect. Always asking the dumb questions on here maybe you wont need those tools as much.

You gotta balance blades set pitch then track blades before you fly.

Greg travel to seattle and look this guys heli over and check the setup for him.

Just the basics though greg dont break it down on the flightline and tune it to perfection.

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01-03-2009 06:30 PM  8 years agoPost 17
mgjones

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Yet another package on the way..

Ok, I just ordered the Align blade balancer and a pitch gauge from Helidirect..

I have a Esky USB controller box.. I've been using FMS but I'm hearing it's WAY to easy compared to the real thing. I'm downloading the demo of Clearview right now and I'll give that a shot. Are there others that will work with the Esky USB or do I really need to go out and buy the fancy $200+ Real Flight?

Thanks again,

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01-05-2009 04:08 PM  8 years agoPost 18
mgjones

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OOOOhhh.. The suspense is killing me!

I just received an automated call from UPS.. "your package will be delivered between 8am and 7pm today..

I wonder if Heroin addicts were excited about the impending arrival of their very first fix?

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01-05-2009 04:23 PM  8 years agoPost 19
Melnic

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This is free and better than FMS
Heli-X

Also
Pre-Flight I have not tried this.

I use Clearview. Very good for the price.

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01-05-2009 04:33 PM  8 years agoPost 20
broggyr

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FYI on Heli-X:
Let me give a personal comment: Version 0.9 of HELI-X is a donation ware. That means that those who use HELI-X regularly, should donate something. Unfortunately, this concept did not work. In each 10000 downloads there were only 2 donations. Thus I decided, that the version 1.0 is only available as demo version with a reduced functionality. For those who want to use the full possibilities, a fee is required for the registration. I regret that this way is necessary. But for the small fee, one obtains a lifetime upgrade to any new version. I hope for your insight.
http://www.heli-x.net/download_e.shtml

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