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12-28-2008 06:49 PM  8 years agoPost 1
Hoverup

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Bought the $30.00 Screwz set for the T-Rex 250. Turns out they are not A2-70/A4-80 Stainless Steel Screws(Button, Socket & Countersunk Heads) Set Screws, Nuts & Washers as advertised. Ran the video magnet test and the Screwz fasteners failed. Stainless fastners from MicroFasteners.com passed with flying colors.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...73#post11219033

A2-70/A4-80 Stainless Steel Screws are in the Austenitic stainless steel category which contain higher amounts of chromium and nickel than the other types. They are not hardenable by heat treatment and offer a high degree of corrosion resistance. Primarily, they are nonmagnetic. In plain words these should not be attracted by a magnet.

The owner of SCREWZ will consider refunding my money if I return them, but I don't want to let go of the evidence that will go to the US Commerce Dept. This guy is in the total denial mode and even implied that I put other peoples fasteners in the container to scam him out of a refund. I am certain that the margin of profit that SCREWZ has been enjoing on these sets is outrageous.

Always check what you get - Caveat Emptor - Let the buyer beware.

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12-28-2008 06:57 PM  8 years agoPost 2
R38133

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Bought the $30.00 Screwz set for the T-Rex 500 and only a few fit the others in the container were useless??? What is he thinking Should change his name to I screwz RCers

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12-28-2008 06:57 PM  8 years agoPost 3
hootowl

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Sounds like we are getting screwed

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12-28-2008 07:00 PM  8 years agoPost 4
whyfly

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just like this guy posted

(Not all stainless is non-magnetic. Lower grade stuff like 409 is nearly as magnetic as regular steel is, but with more corrosion resistance. Did the ad specify what type of stainless they were supposed to be?)

You get what you pay for

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12-28-2008 07:04 PM  8 years agoPost 5
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If you will reread my post, you will see that the type advertised are non-magnetic and the type received were ferrous. go see the video.

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12-28-2008 07:13 PM  8 years agoPost 6
whyfly

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not seeing it but I do see return it and get a full refund.

alg007 - Align TRex 250 Series Stainless Steel Screw Kit
[alg007] PRICE: $39.95

RCScrewZ Stainless Screw Kits are 100% complete. Your new kit will include everything needed to do a full conversion and more. Stainless Steel Screw Kits are far superior to the screws that come stock with your RC. Our kits are made with the best stainless steel money can buy. No more bent, rusted, or corroded screws. Never worry anout stripped heads again. You will not find a better screw kit for your RC at any price and we Guarantee it. If for any reason your not 100% satisfied with your kit, return it and we will send you a full refund for the price of the kit.

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12-28-2008 07:21 PM  8 years agoPost 7
R38133

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RCScrewZ Stainless Screw Kits are 100% complete. Your new kit will include everything needed to do a full conversion and more
Where are the self tappers for the plastic frame base, battery tray, gyro mount, in the 500 kit??????

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12-28-2008 07:56 PM  8 years agoPost 8
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I just cancelled my order. Thanks Boyd!

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12-28-2008 08:37 PM  8 years agoPost 9
Zeb

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Hey Boyd,

Where does it say A2-70/A4-80 Stainless Steel on the rcscrewz website (rcscrewz.com)? I spent more time looking for it than I should have and never found it.

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12-28-2008 08:47 PM  8 years agoPost 10
hootowl

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Magnetic and ferrous are apples and oranges.

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12-28-2008 10:03 PM  8 years agoPost 11
gwk

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Where does it say A2-70/A4-80 Stainless Steel on the rcscrewz website (rcscrewz.com)? I spent more time looking for it than I should have and never found it.
From RCScrewz website:

"RCScrewZ Stainless Steel Screw Kits Feature:
Precision Machine Threads..to replace the stock "wood type screws". (3) Times the thread for SUPERIOR hold! 2mm and 2.5mm Button Head Screws are replaced with Socket Head Screws to prevent stripping on micro screws. 2mm and 2.5mm Flat Head Screws remain Phillips Head. Pins with threads on the end are regarded as screws (they have tolerenced shoulders) and not part of our kits.

A2-70/A4-80 Stainless Steel Screws (Button, Socket & Countersunk Heads) Set Screws, Nuts & Washers

The Highest Quality Short Arm Allen Wrenches (Precision/Quality Set of Wrenches is Highly recommended)

Awesome Re-Useable Storage Case - (what every racer needs) With Plenty Of Extra Fasteners In Every Kit!

Screws are sold in KITS (100% replacement for any vehicle), BULK KITS - for spares or bulk building or INDIVIDUALLY - just in case you need one size!"

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12-28-2008 10:10 PM  8 years agoPost 12
Hoverup

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And the SCREWZ owner has been maintaining that his are non-magnetic.

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12-28-2008 10:11 PM  8 years agoPost 13
Hoverup

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Magnetic and ferrous are apples and oranges.
Gee do ya' think. I meant that the SCREWZ product attacted like good old ferrous fasteners when approached by a Magnet.

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12-29-2008 05:00 AM  8 years agoPost 14
kkent25

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Where does it say A2-70/A4-80 Stainless Steel on the rcscrewz website (rcscrewz.com)? I spent more time looking for it than I should have and never found it.
It says it right on the homepage....

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12-31-2008 07:09 PM  8 years agoPost 15
kkent25

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Anyone else have issues with the Trex 250 screw set from rcscrewz???

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12-31-2008 07:41 PM  8 years agoPost 16
zack108

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i bought alot of screws from rtl fasteners they work great just look in the back of the trex manuals for the screw sizes he has almost every size for the trex cheap prices to

zack

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12-31-2008 09:06 PM  8 years agoPost 17
hootowl

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Gee do ya' think. I meant that the SCREWZ product attacted like good old ferrous fasteners when approached by a Magnet.
Stainless steel is a ferrous metal. It contains iron. Some stainless steels are magnetic and some are not but all are ferrous.

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12-31-2008 09:20 PM  8 years agoPost 18
Mike66

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I bought two kits from RCScrewz, one for a T500 and the other for a T600. I have not opened them until today, but I spread every item from each kit on my workbench for testing with a magnet I removed from a disk drive. The only items affected by the magnet are the allen keys that come with each kit.

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T-Rex 600
T-Rex 500
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12-31-2008 09:40 PM  8 years agoPost 19
hootowl

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A basic stainless steel has a 'ferritic' structure and is magnetic.

Grades 310 and 316 NON MAGNETIC

Grade 304 is non magnetic but can become quite magnetic after cold working.Stress relieving dispels the magnetism.

18-8 is also known as 302 or 304 grade stainless steel (18 percent chromium and 8 percent nickel).

400 series, which contains steel and chromium, but without the presence of nickel, does in fact exhibit magnetic qualities.

Grade A2-70/A4-80 is 304/316... A2 is 304, A4 is 316...

You said they claim A2-70/A4-80 SS.
Which is it? A2 or A4?

A2 (304) is non magnetic but could be magnetized if the screws are cold formed.

I'm guessing you get a mixture of A2 and A4 depending on the type of hardware available in the industry. You very well may have all stainless hardware just as advertised.

The video magnet test only shows your lack of knowledge about stainless steel and your raking Screwz over the coals is a bit unfair.

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12-31-2008 10:19 PM  8 years agoPost 20
kkent25

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A basic stainless steel has a 'ferritic' structure and is magnetic.

Grades 310 and 316 NON MAGNETIC

Grade 304 is non magnetic but can become quite magnetic after cold working.Stress relieving dispels the magnetism.

18-8 is also known as 302 or 304 grade stainless steel (18 percent chromium and 8 percent nickel).

400 series, which contains steel and chromium, but without the presence of nickel, does in fact exhibit magnetic qualities.

Grade A2-70/A4-80 is 304/316... A2 is 304, A4 is 316...

You said they claim A2-70/A4-80 SS.
Which is it? A2 or A4?

A2 (304) is non magnetic but could be magnetized if the screws are cold formed.

I'm guessing you get a mixture of A2 and A4 depending on the type of hardware available in the industry. You very well may have all stainless hardware just as advertised.

The video magnet test only shows your lack of knowledge about stainless steel and your raking Screwz over the coals is a bit unfair.
Magnetic, non-magetic whatever. The thing that concerns me and other people who have had the same experience is the heads snapping off when you tighten the screw. It has happened to me a number of time using these screws...and no I'm not gorilla tightening the screws in!!!

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