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12-28-2008 01:30 PM  8 years agoPost 1
Jesper

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Did anyone try these?

http://vp-systems.eu/index.html

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12-28-2008 07:40 PM  8 years agoPost 2
Rappy 60

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Yes I have. What are you going to use it on?

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12-28-2008 07:54 PM  8 years agoPost 3
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I just got a Nikon d40x, so I thought I might try it on that. I also have a Blip interface, but like someone said, it's kind of slow.

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12-28-2008 07:59 PM  8 years agoPost 4
CKY

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If your camera has a wired remote plug for an external trigger, a simple channel operated E-switch to the release shutter plug is all you need if using a DSLR.

Auto focus is a moot point when in the air. I think you will gravitate to manual settings more as you progress and auto focus is one that will go first with Auto exposure next.

If using a point and shoot you will have very limited flexibility for manual settings. One of the many USB devices will then be neccessary.

I think simplicity is the key to reliability and repeatability.

Chris

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12-28-2008 08:03 PM  8 years agoPost 5
Rappy 60

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I just got a Nikon d40x
As someone else mentioned, stick with a switch for the shutter. The VP system is also slow, its not the system its the camera that makes it slow (USB Interface).

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12-28-2008 08:41 PM  8 years agoPost 6
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Ok, so I will get rid of the USB interface. Any difference using an electronic switch or using a servo to trigger the shutter?

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12-28-2008 09:03 PM  8 years agoPost 7
CKY

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simplicity...

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12-28-2008 09:20 PM  8 years agoPost 8
Jesper

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Ok, so if I understan you correctly, the electronic switch is better than using a servo to trigger?

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12-30-2008 03:40 PM  8 years agoPost 9
mrichardin

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use a servo but not to push the button

Hello,

I am using a servos to trigger the shutter, but not by "pushing" the button of the camera (Nikon D300). I bought a cheap vire remote shutter trigger, open the box, stripped the wired and use the servos to "connect" the wires in the correct order to trigger the shutter (it emulate the first half pressed for focus, then full pressed to take the shot). So the servos trigger the shots simply by connecting 3 wires together. It's very simple and fit any Nikon DSLR and the servos doesn't need to be fixed on the camera as the wire cable from the remote is about 20cm long. The wire is connected to the D300 using the ten pin remote terminal at the front of the camera, on the right side of the lens. So if you change camera and of course the camera body changes, you can still use the same setting to trigger the camera. You don't have to adjust your servos mount to adapt to a new body....

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Marc.

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12-30-2008 04:47 PM  8 years agoPost 10
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mrichardin,

Thanks for your post. I really would have liked to go that way, but it seems there is only an IR remote shutter for the Nikon D40X. I think initally I will use the Blip USB interface and if I am not satisified with that I will use a servo to mechanically activate the trigger.

Thanks,

Jesper

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12-30-2008 06:08 PM  8 years agoPost 11
CKY

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That one little feature is why I went with canon, the wired shutter release. My first camera for aerials was a Minolta Dimage 7i. It had the wired shutter and sold me on it.

A remote shutter release is required for any tripod, mast, or aerial use. This reply should really be on the "whats better, Canon or Nikon"??

Chris

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12-31-2008 04:46 AM  8 years agoPost 12
iskoos

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Not trying to be a butthead but if I am not mistaken I recommended that one should not be picking a high $$$ camera per whatever trigger system he has in his hands. Seems you got the Nikon to be able to use it with the blip switch which is slow. There are options for Nikon but it seems you would fix it up quicker with a Canon DSLR like Chris(CKY) did. My future DSLR will be Canon for sure just like all of my camera gear

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12-31-2008 05:43 AM  8 years agoPost 13
mrichardin

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I Agree, the trigger must follow the purchase of the camera. But the camera should also be purchased in regards of its specifications that you are going to use for AP. My first camera was the Canon G9 with the USB Blip interface. This triggering system is working but as it has been said, it's quite slow. About 4 seconds between shots. So I designed a zoom control and a shutter control using two micro servos. Now we are taking shots quickly and in RAW mode (the USB interface prevents using RAW). Then I was disapointed with the Canon G9 quality for high altitude shots. So I bought a Nikon D300 for its "Live View" functionality. I tried some wireless triggers working in the 700Mhz frequency (I am flying with a 72Mhz, and my cameraman is controling the Camera - 3 axis + zoom & trigger - in 40Mhz, the downlink is in 2.4Ghz), but the range was very poor. So I decided to once again use a micro servo to trigger the shutter using the remote terminal of the Nikon D300.

So, I have been testing pretty much everyting, included spycamera for picture downlink. Now I prefer using the A/V out of the Canon G9 and the A/V out (Live View mode) of the Nikon D300. When I bought the D300 10 months ago, there was only 3 DSLR camera with "Live View" mode. The Nikon was the one I choose for the AP purpose because its live View mode is very convenient and can me used for extended time.

When flying with my gasser, I fly only 20 minutes, but I am also using helium balloon (up to 200m) and I stay up there sometimes up to one hour. So the Live View working time is crucial. Some camera overheat in Live View mode and shut down by themself. Never happened with the D300.

Attached is a picture of my simple shutter. Not pretty, but reliable and fast.

Regards.

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12-31-2008 09:22 AM  8 years agoPost 14
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iskoos,

I didn't buy the Nikon because of the Blip interface, never said that I did. If you search the forum, the Canon vs Nikon debate usually come down to personal preference. I have no personal preference yet since I am still very new to photography, however, with experience I am sure I will get one. I bought the Nikon D40X because I got a really good deal on it, and money is an object for me. I have spent about $6000 on AP so far, and untill I get certification from my national authorities, I am not getting any return. Once I start making money from doing AP I can start spending money on better and more expensive equipement, if I feel that there is a need for it.

Regarding the Blip interface, it is very slow, but really I don't feel the need for speed. I guess if I decided to start making panos it may become an issue. Right now I think it is just more annoying than an actual problem. If I want to shoot RAW or be able to take pictures quicker, I will use a servo to mechanically trigger the shutter, like the one DJ makes.

mrichardin,

thanks for your comments! With the G9 I was using live view, however, I was annoyed by the blanking every time I'd take a picture. I still like the idea of using live view though. I was looking at the Canon 450D, but it dosen't have AF when using live view. The Nikon D300 look like a really nice camera, but it's way too much money for me at this time.

I went with the Nikon, and I may or may not regrett it. At this time I am not too concerned with these "problems", rather exited to try to get things to work the way I want it.

/Jesper

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12-31-2008 09:40 AM  8 years agoPost 15
madmcphil

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Its a good system

I have a Nikon D40x and I use both the blip and the vp-systems cam-remote. Both are good. Must say though the customer service which I received with vp-systems was second to none. I really like the vp-systems set up plus more features will soon be unlocked for it.

Hope this helps to the origional question!

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12-31-2008 10:44 AM  8 years agoPost 16
Jesper

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madmcphil,

Thanks!

Does the Cam-remote allow you to take pictures in RAW?

/Jesper

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12-31-2008 11:11 PM  8 years agoPost 17
Rappy 60

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Does the Cam-remote allow you to take pictures in RAW?
Not on the Canon, unless you get CHKD.

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