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HelicopterRadio - JR DMSS › 12x vs. X9303
12-28-2008 07:52 AM  8 years agoPost 1
mforester

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I'm a PCM 10s owner looking to upgrade to a 2.4 DSM radio. I'm looking at the 12x and the X9303 and am wondering what the value of the 12x is that justifies nearly double the cost of the X9303? In looking at the JR site there is very limited details on the features of the radios and no feature comparison matrix to help the buyer make a quick decision.

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12-29-2008 06:25 PM  8 years agoPost 2
mrloudly

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Naseby Northampton​England

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I have been using a 9303 here in the UK (off the record :-))
Have just picked up my 12x :-))

Quality seems, so far, a level above. Waiting for it to charge at the mo so will report on programming features later.

Andy

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12-29-2008 10:46 PM  8 years agoPost 3
CoronaL

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I had an X9303 that I bought earlier this year. My first radio other than the cheapie DX6i that came with a blade 400 that got me started back into this crack habit after about 15yrs off of RC :/. The X9303 is a great radio. Good feel, great features, nothing really that it won't do. I got a bug under my saddle to get the 12x though and I like it better. If I had it to do over I'd probably keep the X9303 though and save the $. I loved that radio, and while I do like the 12x better, I'm not sure it's worth $900-1000 more. The feel, look and features are better, but again it's so much more $$$. Maybe if I was some 3d pro gasser/plane flier that needed some of the really trickey mixes, but for me the X9303 was easy, really super easy to program and work with. Only thing in my mind if falls short on is the gimbal feel. The 12X lcd is nice, but after a few oohh's and Ahhh's well that's about the extent of that.

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12-29-2008 11:58 PM  8 years agoPost 4
trickytiker

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picked up my 12x today also and wating for full charge so i can tinker with it looks cool

i have problems with spelling

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12-30-2008 01:10 AM  8 years agoPost 5
RAK402

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Alhambra, CA

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I have had a 12X since about June (probably close to one of the first ones).

I did not need it, but I wanted it.

Over the X9303, the 12X has:

-Better sticks (smoother)
-Metal Case (some like it, some think it is too thick or too heavy)
-Easier programming (subjective and my opinion-I programmed a XP9303 recently, and found the programming to be somewhere in between that of a DX7 and a 12X).
-Something that I did not realize when I got the 12X-the "Gyro Sense" menu can be used with Channel 5 (Gear). The X9303 does not allow this-you can only use Channel 7 and possibley 8 or 9 (not sure on the last two). I have multiple machines with 6 channel recievers, so this was very nice.
-2000 mah TX battery-I only have to charge once a week or so.
-Three additional channels that I will never use...
-Backlit display.

Did I need any of these things? No-a DX7 actually works fine for me. Am I glad that I have them-Absolutely!

Would I do it again? Absolutely!

Team KBDD/Compass Team Manger/Experience RC/Team JR Americas/WR Field Rep

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12-30-2008 05:48 PM  8 years agoPost 6
mforester

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Los Angeles

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New thought

Check my math on this:

JR 12x = $1,499
Futaba 12FGH = $749
JR X9303 = $629

Am I correct in thinking that the Futaba 12FGH provides the gimbal quality, the 12 channels and all the programming features of the JR 12x for only $120 more than the X9303?

Seems like JR needs to have a radio offered in the $800 range.

Thanks!

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12-31-2008 08:28 PM  8 years agoPost 7
cation3

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Smyrna, GA - USA

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My main reason for upgrading dx7 to 12x was the metal case. After 10 months or so, the dx7's case was cracking and I wanted something that would last.
After I got it, the difference was dramatic. Programming is so much simpler (for basic heli setup) and additional options abound. That said, the biggest difference was the resolution change. I'm no pro (r/c) pilot by any means, but going from 1024 to 2048 resolution made a huge difference. The helis felt much more connected - it was amazing the difference in feel. I've seen other posts, but can't remember if the 9303 is 2048 or not, but if not, I highly recommend he 12x.

-Drew

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12-31-2008 08:39 PM  8 years agoPost 8
Heli 770

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Is the balance of the 12X the same as X9303 with a neck strap?

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12-31-2008 08:48 PM  8 years agoPost 9
CoronaL

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Winnebago IL

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Is the balance of the 12X the same as X9303 with a neck strap?
approximately yes. If you have a "balancer" for the X9303 you can use it for the 12x. Minor adjustment may be needed though. I forget what if any adjustments I had to make on mine, moving it from the 9303 to the 12x

One more thing I forgot which is nice on the 12x is the electronic "cyclic ring" which prevents binding or too much travel to your cyclics during full travels ie full upper right on the gimbal, the radio would mix those each a bit down so you wouldn't get head binding up and causing possible damage.

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12-31-2008 08:57 PM  8 years agoPost 10
Heli 770

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Thanks.

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01-01-2009 12:31 AM  8 years agoPost 11
Pinecone

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Maryalnd

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The 12X has a lot better programming for jets and giant scale. Not so much difference for helis.

But it sure feels nice.

Terry
Blade CP Trex 450 SE
QJ EP8v2 EX Gaui Hurricane 550
Vibe 50 Bergen Intrepid Gasser

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01-03-2009 07:21 PM  8 years agoPost 12
robhurlin

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Pretoria, South​Africa

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If the money is not an issue - go spoil yourself.

Personally I don't think the improvement in quality and additional features are worth the extra $$$ - unless you are heavy into competition and think your confidence will be boosted the equivalent ratio to the extra $$$! I would rather have the DSX9 and use the extra $$ for more helis/servos/gyros!!

Rob.

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01-03-2009 10:38 PM  8 years agoPost 13
Fury flier

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Wales

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Hi is it possible to transfer data/models from the Pcm9xII to the Dsx 12x?

You learn something new everyday.

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01-03-2009 11:12 PM  8 years agoPost 14
JuanRodriguez

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The Villages,​Florida

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No.......unfortunately you have to do the numbers manually and then adjust from there....

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01-05-2009 07:35 AM  8 years agoPost 15
jimmyack

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Singapore

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Hi Guys,
I am really tempted into the 12X but I want to find out whether it allows the change from Mode 1 to Mode 2. I am currently a mode 1 flyer and I will most likely convert to mode 2. However, in the event I can't transit to mode 2, would the 12x allow me to change it to mode 1 as per my DSX9II?

Help most appreciated.

Cheers

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01-06-2009 10:15 PM  8 years agoPost 16
CoronaL

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Winnebago IL

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I forgot to mention that the 12x versus the x9303 is roughly 3x's better
sorry couldn't help myself

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01-06-2009 10:43 PM  8 years agoPost 17
psych-lick

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Portland, OR

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The 12X has the ability to trigger the timer off of the throttle stick position. It also has multiple timers.

-Jeff T.

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01-07-2009 08:19 AM  8 years agoPost 18
Helinutnz

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You do not need it for heli's at all but it is a nice radio.
I sold my 72 mhz 9303 and bought the 2.4 12X. I am glad I did and can afford it. If you can afford it then get the quality and features. Lets face it....it's the bit you hang on to all the time. Everything else gets crashed...LOL.

If you are on a budget then the DX7 is fine but the 9303 gives you more options and In my opinion is more user friendly than the DX7.

The 12X has many more features and a lot of them are for sailplanes and jets etc. I like the timers...Electronic cyclic ring, swash menu...gimbal quailty, case quality, backlit high res screen etc etc.

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01-31-2009 07:20 PM  8 years agoPost 19
HeliCSR

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Hesperia, Ca, US

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Information at the spectrum web site said the higher res radio
is better, but if you dont have higher res ESC, servoes ect.

It said your greatest resolution is limited to your weakest link.

I bought the XP9303 2.4 gig I paid $590 I am waiting for arival.

I fly and then I fly some more.
If it don't glitch then I won't crash.

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