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12-27-2008 01:28 PM  8 years agoPost 1
Craig Simmons

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after purchasing a trex 600 esp for stefans birthday 28 november..since then we have had three speedo go down..two went bang and one just doesnt work.thats with two 650l motors we are not exactly sure why..ie whether the motor is to much for the speedo or whether the 100 amp speedo is just rubbish...any ideas and any ideas what speedo to go as the align ones aint great
cheers craig simmons

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12-27-2008 01:56 PM  8 years agoPost 2
cub2000

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A popular alternative from the Align setup is CC HV85 ESC with a NEU or Scorpion motor. My current setup with my Trex-600ESP is HV85 ESC with NEU 1512H/1.5Y/F. I liked it so much that I bought another set for my second ESP, but I haven't used it yet. That probably explains why I'm selling a NEU 1512 in the classifieds section

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12-27-2008 02:18 PM  8 years agoPost 3
Craig Simmons

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sorry codes dont mean much to me ??are these aligns
cheers craig simmons

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12-27-2008 04:01 PM  8 years agoPost 4
Craig Simmons

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i imagine castle creations is what your mean
cheers mate

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12-27-2008 04:05 PM  8 years agoPost 5
cub2000

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Yes, Castle Creations, a very popular name. There are others that are more expensive, but CC HV85 is decent enough for me to replace the Align stock ESC.

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12-27-2008 04:23 PM  8 years agoPost 6
Craig Simmons

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why do you replace the align ones..have you had problems like we have
thanks for your help
cheers craig simmons

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12-27-2008 04:45 PM  8 years agoPost 7
whyfly

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Sound like you might have another issue than your 3 esc going bad I would check your gear mesh or motor I would hate to see you smoke CC esc.

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12-27-2008 06:37 PM  8 years agoPost 8
Craig Simmons

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nope gear mesh is correct..not tight at all.and its the second motor too..because i thought the motor may be faulty i replaced it.maybe they are just poor.my friends got a 75amp speedo with no drama.the 100amp is junk
.guys i have a model shop and repair models for a living i just didnt sell align stuff at the time so purchased it from another shop.
this didnt go pop it just doesnt do anything this time.i give up with align speedo's and havnt had any dealing with 600 helicopters untill this lot
cheers craig simmons

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12-27-2008 06:55 PM  8 years agoPost 9
TaleGunner

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Put an E-Logger in the system and see what your pulling for amps.
Id bet your over AMPing the system

I have 2 600e with 600xl and stock 75-and 100amp esc with hundreds of flights. I have had overheats with shutdowns on both but was pushing too hard in the heat. I have sence went to HV85 esc on both and 8s on one.
Good Luck

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12-27-2008 07:15 PM  8 years agoPost 10
Craig Simmons

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see my point is im using the 650l and the align 100amp speedo.and its blown three speedo and thats on two motors and mesh i quite loose so no over messing..i recon if i used too 600l motor id have no problems at all.no thermaling never got a change.it blew up on spoolup the first time and second and the third time it did nothing.
any ideas
cheers

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12-27-2008 07:16 PM  8 years agoPost 11
Craig Simmons

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does the hv85 run on 8s aswell a 6s
regards

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12-27-2008 08:06 PM  8 years agoPost 12
whyfly

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Are you running 8s or 6s my buddy 600esp is on 8s stock around 200 flights with no issue.

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12-27-2008 08:29 PM  8 years agoPost 13
Ben-T-Spindle

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Are you running 8s or 6s my buddy 600esp is on 8s stock around 200 flights with no issue.
I have heard that the new ESP power system runs great on 8S. Seams like most are not even changing the gears – they just cut back the throttle curve a little. a tailored curve seams to work much better than a constant value for that setup. They headspeed is high but it flies great with awesome power.

Some are also using the CY ATG V3 external governor. Curtis has installed EP software options in the V3 version and from what I have seen it really works great. Most report improved flight times because they are wasting energy running a high throttle curve all the time.

... BTS

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12-27-2008 08:55 PM  8 years agoPost 14
Craig Simmons

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we are running 6s i was told the speedo was designed for 6s.govenor mode was terrible hunting..the sorf start was rough.not impressed
we would like to go to 8s eventually tho
regards craig simmons

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12-27-2008 10:40 PM  8 years agoPost 15
TaleGunner

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does the hv85 run on 8s aswell a 6s
regards
HV-85 is good 3s to 12s

here is some eloger data from a trex 600 hv-85 8s

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12-28-2008 01:51 AM  8 years agoPost 16
missle

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Mr. Simpson, could of questions on your setup(s) with these failures:
1. What pinion where your running?
2. What was your throttle curve?
3. What was your average flight times and bat size?
4. How did you have the ESC programmed (i.e. throttle response, gov mode, low voltage, ect....)?
5. What kind of external BEC/bat were you using?

Sorry for so many questions, but I think (hope) that there's something in the setup that's causing these failures. I too am running the 650l with the 100A ESC and I'm using a 15 tooth pinion with 188 helical main gear, eMultigov with HS set at 1980 rpm, Outrage 6S 5000mah bat, fight timer is set for 6 minutes, AUW is right at 7 lbs.

And now for the stupid question that must be asked, there's no chance that someone accidentally installed the one-way bearing backwards? (sorry but had to ask)

WATCH OUT!!!!!!!!

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12-28-2008 02:22 AM  8 years agoPost 17
whyfly

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If you install one-way bearing backwards you will know it wont fly I've done it on my 450 motor just spin..

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12-28-2008 08:06 AM  8 years agoPost 18
Craig Simmons

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15 tooth pinion
soft staft which seems crap..
tried it in gov mode and not gov mode
set to high voltage cut off..but tried low too
set motor timing to 6pole and high preformance too
using flight power batts 6s 5amp..we are sponsored by(( flight power ))
using the align seperate battery that comes with the kit and reg
timer set at 4 mins thats all
set curves at idel 1 100-75-100
it tell you to set throttle curve at between 85 and 75 in the instructions

thanks for trying to help..one way bearing is already installed and would work backwards anyway

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12-28-2008 08:37 AM  8 years agoPost 19
R38133

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Just get a Jazz 80 and be done with it Forget about those throttle curves and just do the flat lines with a governer that will blow away anything you have all that money in the heli and you put a Align or a CC as the ESC

Hey WHYFLY send me some of the stuff your smoking

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12-28-2008 09:03 AM  8 years agoPost 20
Craig Simmons

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i thought i would try the align speedo because it came with it..im starting to see that they aint any good and ill send it back anyway
but im really interested in what people think
cheers guys

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