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12-26-2008 06:56 PM  8 years agoPost 1
mastic

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I use this stuff on some planes and when I spay it on CA glue it makes some nasty fumes. Theres no warnings on the bottle either. any1? Thanks Pals

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12-26-2008 07:45 PM  8 years agoPost 2
TaleGunner

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The kicker accelerates the curing of the CA the fumes are from the CA always use CA in a well ventilated place don't breath fumes.

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12-26-2008 09:22 PM  8 years agoPost 3
rcsoar4fun

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Some CA kicker is just baking soda in a water mix, pretty safe. The fumes from CA can be very bad though.

I give up on Loctite, nothing lasts long enough to vibrate loose anymore.

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12-26-2008 10:28 PM  8 years agoPost 4
Brokenlink

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You can also use Isopropyl Rubbing alcohol in a misting bottle.

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12-27-2008 12:05 AM  8 years agoPost 5
Dood

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it makes some nasty fumes
What brand are you using that you get NASTY fumes?

Not sure whats in it myself, but I have some generic "LHS Brand" that smells awesome and tastes pretty darn good too. Doesn't taste quite as good as Permatex blue loctite, but it's close.

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12-27-2008 12:11 AM  8 years agoPost 6
Dood

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scroll to the BOTTOM of this page, there are several CA activators, all have an MSDS sheet. The MSDS will tell you whats in it.

http://www.resinlab.com/adhesive/cyanoacrylate.html

Some say contain, Acetone, n-Heptane, Isopropyl alcohol, n-Propyl, Bromide, and Mineral Spirits

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12-27-2008 12:27 AM  8 years agoPost 7
TaleGunner

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Some CA is just baking soda in a water mix, pretty safe
Were did you get this idea from ??
Its defanantly not baking soda and water

Chemical structure of cyanoacrylate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanoacrylate

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12-27-2008 01:20 AM  8 years agoPost 8
jphilli

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Some CA is just baking soda in a water mix, pretty safe
Were did you get this idea from ??
Its defanantly not baking soda and water

Chemical structure of cyanoacrylate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanoacrylate
I think he meant CA kicker, not CA.

Anyway, you can boost the curing time of CA by misting it with water; I've been told that's what activates it in the first place.

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12-27-2008 01:34 AM  8 years agoPost 9
TaleGunner

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never tried water but Isopropyl alcohol will kick some ca

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12-27-2008 02:04 AM  8 years agoPost 10
Brokenlink

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Doesn't taste quite as good as Permatex blue loctite, but it's close.
Blue loctite is nice and sweet,but that after taste sucks!!

Jamie Griffith

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12-27-2008 02:53 AM  8 years agoPost 11
rcsoar4fun

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Were did you get this idea from ??
Its defanantly not baking soda and water
Doh! Meant CA kicker.

I give up on Loctite, nothing lasts long enough to vibrate loose anymore.

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12-27-2008 04:32 PM  8 years agoPost 12
Stet

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Most of the common ones are aromatic amine.

keepin' it real

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12-27-2008 05:10 PM  8 years agoPost 13
Arthur

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I thought I was the only one that found blue loctite nice and sweet.

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12-27-2008 05:42 PM  8 years agoPost 14
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I thought I was the only one that found blue loctite nice and sweet.
Nope,I can only afford the small tubes now

Jamie Griffith

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12-27-2008 06:27 PM  8 years agoPost 15
TaleGunner

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You guys were paste eaters back in grade school wern't ya

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12-27-2008 09:30 PM  8 years agoPost 16
Brokenlink

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Yup,that was also mighty tastyThat was almost as good as graham crackers and milk.

Jamie Griffith

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12-27-2008 10:42 PM  8 years agoPost 17
funflyer2006

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How does the green or red loctite taste? The blue does taste good

I LOVE MY EVO!!!

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12-28-2008 02:39 AM  8 years agoPost 18
dkshema

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With regard to Baking Soda and CA...

...before you could go out and BUY Zip Kicker, Hot Shot, Generic CA accelerator, and all the other spray on/spritz on stuff, baking soda was commonly used to accelerate the cure of CA.

Not only does baking soda kick CA off instantly (and you do get those neat, tear-making fumes), but baking soda allows you to fill gaps in poorly-fit joints, and you can use it to make fillets.

It even allows CA to work well on spruce, and other wood materials whose saps and oils would normally preclude the use of CA.

In spite of the advances in technology, baking soda still works wonders with CA.

The fumes you have come to know and love are from the curing CA, not from the kicker.

The original hobby grade CA was called "Hot Stuff" and was marketed by an outfit called Satellite City in little plastic bottles that were dipped in a blue wax to seal the bottles against moisture. When the stuff was introduced, RC Modeler magazine had an article about it, and described those fumes very well. One of my fellow flyers at the time bought two bottles of Hot Stuff (about $28 a gram back in those days) and invited a bunch of us over to his basement one evening to experiment with this new adhesive. We went through nearly both bottles of the stuff until we produced that first puff of CA fumes. Although we had just blown through nearly $60 worth of Hot Stuff, we were quite pleased to see that puff of smoke.

Satellite City and Hot Stuff are still around...

http://www.caglue.com/index.html

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12-28-2008 02:46 AM  8 years agoPost 19
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I have never really needed any kicker,it is almost instantaneous when I get it on my fingers.

Jamie Griffith

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12-28-2008 02:52 AM  8 years agoPost 20
rcsoar4fun

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DK, nice blast from the past. I have some old RCMs that still tout the new fangled CA from SC. My first plane was built with 5 minute epoxy, would have killed for some CA!

I give up on Loctite, nothing lasts long enough to vibrate loose anymore.

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