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12-25-2008 06:07 AM  8 years agoPost 1
Vertiviper

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My girlfriend bought me G4.5 not knowing I already own Phoenix and am satisfied with it.

I figured, what the hey i'll try out the newest most advanced version of RealFlight out there!

Long story short..after 20 mins of using it, I hate it.
-The graphics, no matter how you adjust the quality, just aren't good.
-During flight the objects aren't smooth (normally smooth on Phoenix)
- The selection of Heli's is a complete joke. The only REAL heli I recognized was an Axe CP which flew nothing like the one I owned.
- The controller feels like a video game
- The scenerys look fake
- Water texture doesn't render as nicely or believable as Phoenix

It's absolute garbage. I wish I could return this but it would hurt my gf's feelings.

Again, don't waste your time on this video game. Just go out and get Phoenix if you need a sim.

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12-25-2008 06:11 AM  8 years agoPost 2
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Sounds like video card is not up to par... Photo flying fields use alot less memory....

Love a Twitchy Heli.... :) and Remmington Model 700

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12-25-2008 06:18 AM  8 years agoPost 3
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Whatever the case may be. I can run Phoenix at full "everything" and it looks 10x better.

It's a NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT btw.

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12-25-2008 01:43 PM  8 years agoPost 4
Barney

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Vert been running Phoenix and G4.5 back to back for 3 months now and
G4.5 actually "a little good".

You do need to spend time looking out some G4.5 models via the Swap pages as the stock ones are pretty pants and nothing special. Also playing with a few other settings like the tail/Gyro settings. You have to remember g4.5 is also a little buggy as it also is undergoing a re-vamp from G4 but nothing worse than Phoenix has/is.

G4.5 def needs more computing power/graphics performance to run sweet.

Phoenix models fly way to well and have a horrid Floaty feel about it at the Mo, also gravity is too weak. The weather settings are not so good turbulence wise as G4.5. For Quick setup Phoenix wins hands down, has a nice Simple interface and lots of Real Models and the water effects are sublime.

With tweeking G4.5 has it at the current moment in time IMHO, but has a complex interface requiring some patience to learn what to play with. The Photo Quality backgrounds are on Par with Phoenix in fact the colours are marginally nicer...what they lack in most sceenerys is clouds in the sky to give you a perspetive where you are in relation to the Ground..but 2 or 3 are exceptionial.

Both are a fantastic learning tool and shouldn't dissapoint.

GTG Xmas lunch waiting...LOL

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12-26-2008 02:12 AM  8 years agoPost 5
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I'm with Barney. Tried both. G4.5 has my vote.

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12-26-2008 05:12 AM  8 years agoPost 6
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Is there any way to adjust the tension on the collective stick? I know on my DX7 I just open the back up and turn a screw..is this similar?

Btw..i downloaded the latest update for it and it's quite a bit different then last night. A lot of issues I was having are almost transparent. Oddly enough after you download the update it gives you a list of bugs/fixes...well I could almost copy/paste what I was disliking in my list from my original post and it's exactly what was tweaked in the update! lol..

...geeeeze

I gueess now it's time to really get into the nitty gritty of this thing.

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12-26-2008 05:33 AM  8 years agoPost 7
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You can easily change the tension and smooth out the notch by putting a small length of fuel tubing on the tension spring and back off on the screw a bit.

You can also move the TH switch as well. Below is a link regarding changes. Check the bottom portion of the thread.

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t477484p1/

Cheers

Bob C.

PS Also... If your intersted in canopies for Phoenix there are a collection over at the Heli Freak Phoenix Forum.

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12-28-2008 06:37 PM  8 years agoPost 8
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Turns out I have to upgrade most of my system to run this lovely software at low-medium settings (my system is only a year old and already has an upgraded graphics card).

After I downloaded a new patch I've lost the ability to use menu options when I hit "Alt" in full screen mode; one would imagine it would make sense to change it back to "non full screen mode"..that only possible through menu options, which I can't access anymore.

Most people say it's the hardware I have, I disagree considering i can run Phoenix at full settings and Microsoft Flight Simulater at medium-high smoothly.

Multiplayer online play is almost a null option considering the software can't even operate properly on a single system.

I think Real Flight needs to take a lesson from Phoenix when it comes to software efficiency.

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01-12-2009 01:31 AM  8 years agoPost 9
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My Brother spent the 200.00 and bought Realflight 4.5 to run on his new dell laptop. I have to say the graphics are smooth. Thats about the only thing I liked about it. In the hour I spent playing, every default
aircraft that I tried to fly, flew like complete garbage. Going in and messing with some settings, helped a little, but there was an obvious delay between moving the sticks and when the model moved. Made it very hard to play. Tried doing piros with various helicopters and it was a joke, you would stop the piro, then the heli would turn another half of a revoloution then stop. Also the events are few and far between. Im not spending my money on one, thats for sure.

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01-12-2009 03:16 PM  8 years agoPost 10
Barney

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cmartin The reason for the control delay is the laptops hardware limitations.

G4/4.5 virtually needs a full Games spec PC machine to run properly.

Weve talked about this in many threads..if your lowish Spec go for Phoenix as its reasonably forgiving in this respect.

TBH With any sim to get the best enjoyment you want to be at the high end of recommended spec or better

SPARTANRC Team pilot

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01-13-2009 07:13 AM  8 years agoPost 11
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hmmmm.....everything that computer has is above the recommended specs for the game...

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01-13-2009 12:04 PM  8 years agoPost 12
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But does any sim out there replicate 'vortex ring state'...ie calm condtions...heli is descending a bit quick and then keeps dropping like a stone...its where the disturbed air comes up and over the blade tips...which creates a stall.

You also notice this when going downwind...usually at low forward speed...it catches the beginner out and the engine gets the blame usually.

I have yet to see a sim that can do this, Phoenix has it as part of the settings...but its crap. Doesnt behave anywhere as near as the real thing.

I like Phoenix, doesnt seem to have the same requirments as Realflight....but Reflex is pretty darn good too.

I wouldnt get too carried away with whats 'real' looking but having an accurate behaving model(s) is the most important...plus being able to use your radio with all the bells and whistles (switches).

The last thing you want to do is fumble around for a switch when flying a real model.

Rob

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01-14-2009 06:01 PM  8 years agoPost 13
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Hi All,

Played both G4.5 and phoenixRC.....ordered PhoenixRC
G4.5 is nice but the latest version is more a beta version. It runs slower than G3.5 and G4. Developers are working on the issues so perhaps it's getting better.

But phoenixRC is just better. Helis fly great and they look super too. Sounds are also a lot better and can be changed if you want, G4.5 does not let you. Indeed G4.5 has a lot of planes/helis at the swap pages but only a few are good.

Sceneries are better too in phoenixRC, water is just super.
And when it comes to constant framerates, phoenixRC is the winner.
Specially starting phoenixRC (5 secs) is just a joy, G4.5 just takes to long (1 min +).
G4.5 also has this annoying stuttering as they don't cache sounds before flying So you need to crash several times to load all the sounds.
No phoenixRC has my vote, the best sim of all I think. (Tested reflex XTR, AFPD, Clearview, G3.5/4/4.5 and phoenixRC 2.00)

Cheers!

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01-14-2009 07:15 PM  8 years agoPost 14
Havoc

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Is 4.5 much better than 3.5? Phoenix 2.0 blows away 3.5 in the looks department. At least when blown up on a 52" LCD. I think Phoenix has it on physics as well but not stock out of the package. They are too ideal by default. Phoenix seems to understand relative wind in autorotations and you get sound feedback for what the disk is doing but then lets you get by with a goofy bladestop and equally bad recovery. The scale turbine doesn't seem like it had any input from actual pilots. Even the headspeed is insane and apparently they think all scale models have crappy tail rotor authority. The 3D helis seem like they are setup ideal as to not piss off the companies represented. They all have infinite power out of the box. This is where I think the generic heli approach by Realflight might be a plus. I do like that Phoenix gives a subtle blade fart in a pie dish. I hope nobody outside the hobby reads that last sentence.

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01-14-2009 07:19 PM  8 years agoPost 15
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I think the more I gly 4.5 the more I like it. Whenever I go back to Phoenix the models are just way too easy to fly and they feel like they're floating.

Sound effects are better on 4.5 than Phoenix, u just need a high end system to run it.

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01-14-2009 07:39 PM  8 years agoPost 16
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Havoc

Looks of G4.5 is better than G3.5. But it's more demanding.
On my XPS m1710 I get 180 fps when running photofields and almost all set to highest. (Depth of field= OFF and particles set to low, rest is all highest) Turning vsync on will give me 60 FPS (which is normal as my screen is 60Hz) but it drops to 20 fps now and again, so not stable and phoenixRC is.

No AA support yet so you have to set it via your graphics card settings. And yes new things like specular & normal maps looks nice, but still PhoenixRC has a nicer look. Lighting is much nicer in phoenixRC 2.00.

But I just hate the stutter it gives when new sounds appear. Also loading times are a lot longer than PhoenixRC.

Vertiviper

Sound effects in G4.5 are so so, engine sounds are just dull I think.
And no way of changing them. Landng sounds also not the best.
Also funny you mention PhoenixRC models are floating Most say physics of phoenixRC 2.00 is better??

Now AFPD models they do float

Ah well it is all a matter of opinion and we all different

Cheers!

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05-15-2009 11:03 AM  8 years agoPost 17
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Vertiviper
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My Posts This: Topic Forum Whatever the case may be. I can run Phoenix at full "everything" and it looks 10x better.

It's a NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT btw."

That video card doesn't even come close to running g4.5.
You really need a top end one to run it well.

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05-15-2009 01:02 PM  8 years agoPost 18
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I have G4.5 , Phoenix and Aerofly Pro Deluxe . There isn't much between G4.5 and Phoenix in my opinion , but G4.5 gets the most use . Aerofly Pro Deluxe is the best for fixed wing , but not so good for helis .

At the end of the day , it gets dark .

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