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› Looking for a small electric?? Blade cp or HBK2
12-24-2008 04:51 AM  8 years agoPost 1
jameswill4

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Are they pretty decent helis for the price, I have a vibe 50 now and looking for something I can fly at home. Do not really want to drop 500 to 600 on a trex. Do they preform pretty well??

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12-24-2008 05:37 AM  8 years agoPost 2
Melnic

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How much room do you have to fly? Outdoors or Indoors?
Do you want to hover around or forward flight or what?

If you have a Vibe 50, I'd expect you already have a computer radio?
If so, you'd probably be better off to build up an ARF kit and then get another Rx for your radio.

If you go ARF kit or just a 450 sized heli in a kit then I'd say you have lots of choices.
There are various ways to also buy Electric 450 sized Helis that are Rx ready. You would get the heli, servos, Gyro all installed. Add an Rx and it's ready to fly pretty quickly.

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12-24-2008 05:39 AM  8 years agoPost 3
zaw

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Probably KingV3 look like they upgraded pretty good from V2 RTF version.

ಠ_ಠ HBK2 built with inexpensive parts! ٩๏̯͡๏)۶ Gaui425

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12-24-2008 06:03 AM  8 years agoPost 4
Gregor99

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I fly an HBK2 in my backyward. Its just about the right size heli for a smallish space. Although I do wish for a 450 as the HBK2 does get tossed around a bit in the wind.

As Melnic said, don't bother with the RTF versions. You won't be happy with the electronics. Once you seperate the electronics purchase from the airframe purchase that makes comparison shopping a little easier.

You can get the HBK2 bare bones kit for about $54, but the HBK3 has many desirable improvements and its worth waiting for. The HBK3 bare bones kit is not currently available. No eta from Esky but we are hoping soon.

Other airframes worth looking at, the EXI an Trex clone, the Mini Titan, and the CopterX another Trex clone. You can also get some good deals on T450s in the classified.

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12-24-2008 07:13 AM  8 years agoPost 5
zaw

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I'm just waiting for spare V3 Air Frame and Tail Assy + Fins.

ಠ_ಠ HBK2 built with inexpensive parts! ٩๏̯͡๏)۶ Gaui425

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12-24-2008 04:29 PM  8 years agoPost 6
slider46

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There has been some pretty good deals in the classifieds lately with the economy going in the toilet.... You might get a 450 trex for under 400 with everything even batteries........ It pays to shop....

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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12-24-2008 04:34 PM  8 years agoPost 7
broggyr

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There are REAL good deals in the classified now. Someone just had a Trex 600 nitro with engine for $450...

- Brian
irony [ay-ruh-nee', ay-er-nee'] adj.: Like goldy or bronzy, but made of iron

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12-25-2008 01:38 PM  8 years agoPost 8
BOB WHO?

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I have both the HBK2 and several Blade CPs. If you just want to cruise around at home in the backyard, they're both ok. Neither are capable of much more than slow forward or backward flight but good to practice orientation. If you have the room and the money get any good quality 450 electric like a Mini, Trex, Beam, or whatever well made product that your local shops support. There seems to be a tremendous difference between these first two helis you mention and high quality 450s in terms of performance capabilities; stability, agility, flying in wind, aerobatics, just about everything really. The 450 is better in all ways IMO.

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12-25-2008 02:24 PM  8 years agoPost 9
racin06

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Neither are capable of much more than slow forward or backward flight
Well, I also own the King and it does just fine flying fast AND in the wind.

Watch at YouTube

All the King needs are some flying skills and a little motivation .

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12-25-2008 03:29 PM  8 years agoPost 10
tryan02

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The key to the king is headspeed!

BB king CNC head 3800kv engine 10t minimum pinion

Complete CopterX heads sell for $40 on ebay.

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12-25-2008 07:07 PM  8 years agoPost 11
BOB WHO?

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Hey racin
Do you also fly a premium 450 with a strong motor and all high quality electronics? I agree that the King can be flown fast and can be managed in the wind. But the agreement ends where someone compares a perfectly tuned HBK2 (mine is set up like tryan suggests) to any of the name brand 450s also set up correctly. Stability, control, speed, tail not breaking loose, precise inputs to the tx becoming precise reactions by the heli- not even in the same league. The King is ok for the money, parts are readily available, it's a good trainer I think. Crash it and you have a lot of broken or bent stuff. Crash a Rex or Mini and it holds up WAY better. The guy has a Vibe 50 and is looking for a small electric. I have Blades, Kings, and Trexs and was making sure that the man knows what to expect from the 300 size heli in the low to mid quality/price range. They are more like a toy when you compare them to a quality 450. Then there is Doug- and all bets are off.

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12-25-2008 07:19 PM  8 years agoPost 12
racin06

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I still have a Mini Titan to build. So I guess I will experience what you are stating. Yes, I'm sure I will find that my King won't compare to my MT. However, the author of this post wasn't asking to compare a 450 size to a 300 size heli...he is looking for something to fly at home. To me that means a 300 class heli in which the King is part of that class. Unless you have a large back yard, even a 450 size heli is too large, IMO.

I was also just stating a point that the King is a quite capable heli EVEN without upgrades. My King in the above video is equiped with the Esky 3900kv motor, Telebee HH gyro, stock blades...and all stock head and tail parts.

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12-25-2008 07:40 PM  8 years agoPost 13
BOB WHO?

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I agree that the King is quite capable of figure 8's and circuts. I got bored with just that and nose-in. I like flips, rolls, and inverted stuff now. And my King, as well as it is set up, just won't let me do the things I like to mix into my flights now. And believe me I've tried all the things on the King that I do with the 450s in order to have formed my firm opinion. You are right that a small space will not let a 450 breathe, no elbow room. But then knowing what I now know, I'd recommend either the Gaui 200 or the Rex 250 over the HBK. You will really appreciate your Mini when you build it. You have your King set up well and control it nicely so I will look forward to seeing your Mini flying in the same field. You'll see. Then there's Doug- and all bets are off.

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12-25-2008 09:40 PM  8 years agoPost 14
Melnic

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Yes, yes, yes, a Trex or Trex clone w/ an all metal head will be very stable compared to a HBK2 (My first HBK2 is in the mail but I've flown someone else's once. (brushless upgraded HBK2 w/ CF blades & HH gyro)
That' why I suggested an EXI or other type of knock off if you wanna build it yourself and save some dough.

BTW, I have a Belt CP w/ CF blades, HH gyro and CF paddle upgrades. It is VERY agile w/ flips and rolls and does pretty good fast forward flight for the $$. But it's not as stable as my Trex clone. Neither was the HBK2 I flew.

Now, once again I see a thread turning into a Trex vs. everything else battle but we still have not heard any further input from the original person making the post. Jameswill4, what's your input on what you've heard so far?
But then knowing what I now know, I'd recommend either the Gaui 200 or the Rex 250 over the HBK.
That's why we need Jameswill4 to tell us more about how much room he has to fly!

David

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12-25-2008 10:01 PM  8 years agoPost 15
BOB WHO?

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Good final point Melnic.

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12-25-2008 11:12 PM  8 years agoPost 16
jameswill4

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I think that something in the 450 size range would be about the limit. I have about 30 x 30 yard. I saw that heliproz has some deals on 450 combos and 250 combos. Is the 250 finicky to setup or failry simple, how about the 450's. I flew a box stock HBK2 but I guess that I cannot make a judgment on the electronics that are included in it. How about the blade 400's are they decent. I am not looking for the "awesome setup" just something I can pratice on at the house while I am not flying the vibe.

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12-26-2008 12:06 AM  8 years agoPost 17
tryan02

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Sounds like a question that should be asked in the TREX forum.

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12-26-2008 04:10 AM  8 years agoPost 18
BOB WHO?

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Kinda sorta maybe could be a question in the Align forum, but james is considering a King so it certainly qualifies here. You can't really 'fly' fast circuts or figure 8s in that size yard but you can do small circles and 8s with any of the helis in question. Certainly could practice nose-in orientation which is a very important. Another factor is budget. What's the budget? I don't know about difficulty setting up a 250 but it will be quicker and less stable for sure. I've heard only good things about the Blade 400 even though it's a bit pricey. If you didn't fly a 'vibe' you may not know the difference between something low end and something good. You might be disappointed in an Esky product by comparison.

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12-26-2008 04:25 AM  8 years agoPost 19
tryan02

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I am obviously not the pilot you are Bob who never pushed my king that hard really just learned on it after the BCP. I agree with the 450 stuff just think everybody jumped on a bandwagon considering the question started King or blade cp and never mentioned the BeltCP. I had both and the king wins hands down for stability and flight characteristics and overall design and quality of parts. It can go from the back yard to a gym or even a garage. Now I do all that with my 450 cause of its stability is better than both but it takes a bit more caution in the same confined space.

I now have a firefox 100 the plastic version of the Gaui ep100 and love it use it as a sim but its a handful.

Watch at YouTube

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12-26-2008 04:39 AM  8 years agoPost 20
BOB WHO?

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Nice catch tryan. That little sucker looks like a handful. Yea the Belt is not even worth mentioning, by comparison that is. I agree it's a little tighter fit for a 450 but so much more stable.

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