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12-23-2008 09:19 PM  8 years agoPost 1
axemanclint

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So i am noticing more and more now, how hard it is to control the helicopter when it climbs up really high and i am trying to keep it in a stable hover as well as focus the camera on a specific spot and click the button to take pictures...

So i looked into the Helicommand 3D unit and this seems to be a very nice and cost effect way of fixing this problem? However, it states that this unit is really for "beginner pilots learning how to fly, to keep crashes at a minimum." Well Beginner i am not, not by a long shot of course. I only really want to use this "autopilot" feature in order to be able to fly my helicopter up to the desired altitude and fix in the correct position to take pictures and then engage the H3D to hold the helicopter there for me while i focus on taking pics instead of trying to fight the heli to hold a hover and getting disoriented.

So is this the right unit for what i want to use it for, or am i looking at the wrong thing???
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12-23-2008 09:35 PM  8 years agoPost 2
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You need the Profi.

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12-23-2008 09:39 PM  8 years agoPost 3
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Why?

What does it do that the Helicommand 3D won't? Besides being outrageously more expensive and totally out of my budget range!

From what i see the H3D will basically hold your heli in a fixed position, i mean I'm not looking for something to hold me on a dime here, god knows I'm definitely not doing that when i am just holding the heli up there in a hover and the pics are turning out fine for the most part. Its just really hard and having something that would hold the heli in a spot for me so i can focus on the pics would seem to help greatly.

Please just elaborate on why you feel the Profi is more necessary?
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12-23-2008 09:58 PM  8 years agoPost 4
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12-23-2008 09:59 PM  8 years agoPost 5
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You need the Profi.
You need a co-pilot or a spotter. That is 1000% safer, and that's what you should be going for right now. I have been flying for 20+ in r/c 6+ in helis, and I STILL use a camera operator for shots that would otherwise need my attention. Unless I'm using a fixed position camera in a completely safe place, it's only wise to use someone else to be your eyes so that job #1 is not left to a fallible piece of equipment.

Now if you were going to use it to stabilize and reduce flight stress? Now that's an idea I can stand behind.

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12-23-2008 10:00 PM  8 years agoPost 6
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The 3D is only good 5 meters above ground level for position hold and it does not have an altimeter on it.

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12-23-2008 10:05 PM  8 years agoPost 7
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Now if you were going to use it to stabilize and reduce flight stress? Now that's an idea I can stand behind.
You got it Noobs! Thanks for Stepping in by the way buddy.
Oh wait, sorry this wasn't noobs post. RR messed up on me when i was typing this and it looked like noobs was the one who posted the above quote.

I only want to use this tool in order to help me stabilize the helicopter in a hover so i can not freak out every-time i get it way up high and i'm also trying to snap photos.

I would never at any point have my eyes off the heli or my hands off the controls and this is only for the fixed camera mount i am flying currently. Once i go to a mount that allows me to pan/tilt and has a downlink i will then be flying with another person/cameraman.

This is simply to reduce pilot workload and help me fly better when it gets to those points that are hard to see way up high and therefore hard to hold a good hover and take photos, not to mention makes my ass sore from clenching so much from the nerves!!!

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12-23-2008 10:10 PM  8 years agoPost 8
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12-23-2008 10:11 PM  8 years agoPost 9
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OOhhhh, Ok!
now that i had a chance to read through some of these posts. I see why the HC3D isn't really good for what i am wanting to do. I had no idea that it only held position up to around 5 feet or so... Yeah that won't work for me. I am wanting something that will allow me to fly up to my normal operating altitudes of more around 75-150 feet high in order to take the aerial photos i want.

Dang! that sucks i was hoping this unit would work for me since the price is so good. They should put info like how high it will actually work somewhere in there better. I didn't see that listed anywhere when i was reading about it.

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12-23-2008 10:26 PM  8 years agoPost 10
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12-23-2008 10:27 PM  8 years agoPost 11
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Thanks buddy,
I'll look it over.

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12-23-2008 10:30 PM  8 years agoPost 12
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12-23-2008 10:38 PM  8 years agoPost 13
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Cool! So what did you do to that unit in the video in order to get it to have position hold at Approx. 100-150Ft?

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12-23-2008 10:44 PM  8 years agoPost 14
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Sorry,
I just noticed that, that was your post that you sent me in the PM. So you were the one that did the modify on the HC3D with the checkerboard fake ground. So is that the exact unit you used in the video you posted here? If so, it seemed to work great. Have you figured anything more out since first doing this, like how it is actually working with the fake ground reference. Great stuff man,
i think this is worth looking further into...

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12-23-2008 10:46 PM  8 years agoPost 15
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12-23-2008 11:39 PM  8 years agoPost 16
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Noobs invention looks interesting....but, I'll swerve us back to the original question for a minute as my opinion differs from previous posters. I personally, sucessfully, use the HC3A for solo photoing. I have a downlink monocal under one eye and had originally tried to use it for framing shots. It didn't work for me until I got the HC3A. Even though it doesn't do what Profi does (no altitude hold) it does provide enough stabilization in pitch and roll to allow the couple of seconds of framing you need for a shot. Works very for me. Though I would love to have the addition of altitude hold, It's not worth the additional coins.

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12-24-2008 12:13 AM  8 years agoPost 17
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Excellent! Thanks FLAP, that is the kind of feedback i am looking for. It sounds like you are using it in the same manner i would plan to be using it as well and it is working for you exaclty as i would expect it to work in my application. This gives me a little more hope in feeling this product would help me during my AP flights as well. At least i know i have options to modify it for even better results, like what NOOBS is doing with his. I too can not afford the extended price that the PROFI holds...
Thanks guys.
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12-28-2008 12:35 AM  8 years agoPost 18
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with that kinda package I would only fly with the profi

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12-30-2008 01:32 AM  8 years agoPost 19
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Noobs Im really interested in your mod to the helicommand 3a with the camera.
have you found it holds as good as the units camera at low level?
Would be interested to hear of any further testing you have done.
Another question?
Reading the Robbe FAQ on the website states that an altitude sensor would be available around summer 07? did this ever happen as ive not seen this sensor for sale.

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12-30-2008 04:22 AM  8 years agoPost 20
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