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12-23-2008 07:17 PM  8 years agoPost 1
theviper

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Anyone using this camera?? Comments?? Does it have a good video output for a downlink system??

My Canon G9 was stolen and looking for a good replacement.

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12-23-2008 07:28 PM  8 years agoPost 2
macsgrafs

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The video out only works in live view or after taking a photo. Use a seperate tiny security cam mounted on the lens with velcro & have live video downlink.

Ross

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12-23-2008 07:48 PM  8 years agoPost 3
iskoos

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I got one of those in my hands the other day at the store and the LCD gives you view right after you take the picture. When you point the camera anywhere, it doesn't give you live view. I messed with it for about 15 minutes and couldn't get it to work the way normal P&S cameras do.
Is it really like that on Canon Rebel series cameras. I hope not. I hope I just didn't how to turn the LCD on for live view.

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12-23-2008 08:00 PM  8 years agoPost 4
PilotDaz

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The Rebel can do live view, it's in one of the menus.

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12-23-2008 10:18 PM  8 years agoPost 5
Doublah

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It seems to me reading info on it that it will not do live view like most point and shoot cameras. You cannot be in full auto and use the live view. Is that correct?

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12-24-2008 12:48 AM  8 years agoPost 6
PilotDaz

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Here are instructions for turning on Live View. It won't work in the auto modes, but you can use it in the P Mode which should work well.

http://www.usa.canon.com/dlc/contro...&articleID=1766

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12-24-2008 04:39 AM  8 years agoPost 7
Louisiana Helicam

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The XSI's live view works great. I have one that I use on AP jobs every day.

www.louisianahelicam.com

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12-24-2008 05:09 AM  8 years agoPost 8
monterey_tip

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The XSI's live view works great. I have one that I use on AP jobs every day.
You using manual focus or have you been able to get it to focus in LV?

Tip

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12-24-2008 07:27 AM  8 years agoPost 9
PilotDaz

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You using manual focus or have you been able to get it to focus in LV?
There is no problem using AF with Live view.

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12-24-2008 01:35 PM  8 years agoPost 10
Doublah

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I am a little confused on how you use it on a camera mount. I have been playing with it and the only way I can get it to AF is to press a seperate button then the shutter button. Please explain how you guys are getting it to focus in the air with live view?

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12-24-2008 02:12 PM  8 years agoPost 11
theviper

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Wow, this is great feedback guys. It sounds like it is a possible solution. If somone would just post how they are setting the camera up please.

Thanks for all the input guys. I really would like to go to a true SLR solution, but hate giving up the live view simplicity of the G9 point and shoot.

Thanks again. Keep the info comming please..

If anyone else has a better SLR solution with Live view than the cannon mentioned here. Please feel free to inform me.

Viper

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12-24-2008 02:35 PM  8 years agoPost 12
oakley

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Just remember,live view is not even necessary if you use a video vewfinder tap.I use this one below live view or not.

http://www.skyeye.com/V-V-T.html

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12-24-2008 02:57 PM  8 years agoPost 13
monterey_tip

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There is no problem using AF with Live view.
So looking at the canon link, you're using live mode for focus? That's kind of what I do with my D300 and it works well too. I just don't like the downlink going blank after I shoot a picture from the mirror raising. I'm actually thinking of going back to a mini camera for continuous downlink viewing.

Tip

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12-24-2008 03:15 PM  8 years agoPost 14
theslayer

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Anyone here using the XSi on their heli? I am very close to using it on my heli. How do you go about triggering it? Any special switches u use?

Daniel

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12-24-2008 06:15 PM  8 years agoPost 15
Highviz

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I have been flying mine for 7 months now. - Great camera for the job.
I normally use it in shutter priority mode, using the live view output connected to my downlink for framing shots. I always use manual focus and pre-set on the ground before flying. The focus modes available within live view are not practical once in the air as they involve additional button presses. They are also not as fast or accurate as the standard focus modes. If however you are using a mast and are connected to the camera using usb and the supplied software, it works fine.

The kit 18-55 lens is qite touchy on the manual focus ring and very easy to get slightly off - even if you are using an elastic band or tape to secure. I used this for a while, but now generally use either a Canon 20mm fixed lens or a Sigma 10mm fisheye. Both have better manual focus control and are brighter lens's for our murky UK weather.

For firing the shutter I use a simple servo operated microswitch connected to the remote socket. It was a quick lash up to get going with and I always intended to replace it with a direct RC operated switch, but after several thousand pictures it's still there and is 100 percent reliable.

My summary is:- If you want to use autofocus, use the standard mode and get a separate viewfinder camera. If you are happy to focus manually, use the liveview output to your downlink.

Malcolm

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12-24-2008 10:30 PM  8 years agoPost 16
Hogster

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All sounds very promising as I'm about to invest in one of these cameras myself for AP work Fed up with the amount of noise from my G9 when shooting in bad light at ISO200 / 400 .... Will probably use my Canon 10-22mm with it ...

Malcolm - Where did you get the remote cord from and was it a simple hack? Sounds like an electronic switch would be useful instead of the servo / microswitch method The company's name escapes me who sell little units like that ... any ideas?

Cheers!

David

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12-24-2008 11:25 PM  8 years agoPost 17
Badllarma

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Just out of intrest guys is the camera thats called the 450D in the UK?

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12-24-2008 11:27 PM  8 years agoPost 18
Hogster

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Yup Or the 'Kiss X2' elsewhere

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos450d/

David

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12-24-2008 11:40 PM  8 years agoPost 19
monterey_tip

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The company's name escapes me who sell little units like that ... any ideas?
Gentles makes a light weight wired controller.

Tip

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12-24-2008 11:41 PM  8 years agoPost 20
Highviz

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David,

I used a 2.5mm stereo jack plug from R.S. Components - but you could hack the Canon RS60-E3 remote if you wanted to spend the extra money

- You only need a simple switch, so any of the isolated rc switches would do the job. - I've just been too lazy to buy one.

As I said, this was just a quick lash up at the time :-

- Thought you had a 40D already.......why don't you just fly that?

Malcolm

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