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12-23-2008 11:57 AM  8 years agoPost 1
digikas

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Hiiii guyssss !!!

Am building my pantera now and I have the following gears , let me know if you any one have any concerns or suggestions !!!

1.Governor : Futaba GV-1
2.Arizona Regulator with JR switch
3.Futaba 401 Gyro
4.Carbsmart for needle valve control from CSM
5.JR 7 ch, PCM reciver.
6.OS engine Hyper 50
7.Align Mufller
8.Digital servos for cyclic : JR, DS821
9.Digital servo for tail Rudder : Futaba, S9254

Thank you and waitting for your comments ,

Merry Chrismas every body !!!!!!!!

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12-23-2008 12:25 PM  8 years agoPost 2
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8.Digital servos for cyclic : JR, DS821
STOP. Don't use those servos on a 50. Even JR/Spektrum says not to use them. Get some 9252s or 9452s (better)
New Guidelines for DS821 Servo Use
Tuesday, February 20, 2007

The DS821 servo is a powerful, accurate sport digital servo recommended for RC airplane applications up to 1.20-size. For helicopters, the DS821 operates best with 30-size glow models, and up to 50-size electric. Loads and vibration in larger models may cause premature failure of the servo resulting in damage or injury to property and persons.

Important: Do not use liquid thread lock with the DS821 servo!

Do not use any form of liquid thread lock to secure the servo arm screw to the output shaft of the DS821 servo. Chemicals in these liquids react with the polycarbonate gear set causing the plastic to become brittle, fracturing the final output gear.
If you've bougth the governor already the GV1 is ok, but if you haven't, get an Aerospire multigov

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12-23-2008 02:11 PM  8 years agoPost 3
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Listen to Barracuda, he knows of what he speaks.

I was Spektrum when Spektrum wasn't cool

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12-23-2008 03:53 PM  8 years agoPost 4
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+1 on 9452s.

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You can't go wrong with the 401/9254s for the most part and the 50 Hyper rocks!

The only thing wrong with your setup is the JR radio..

Just play'n .. Merry Xmas to you!


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12-23-2008 05:18 PM  8 years agoPost 5
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thank you guys for the reply !!!

so if DS821 is not a good choice do you have any other recommendations beside the one you mentioned ??
and what about GV-1 I thought its a good governor for asport flyer like me ??
thanksss

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12-23-2008 05:46 PM  8 years agoPost 6
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can i use those servos even if am sport flyer ???

thanks againnn

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12-23-2008 06:17 PM  8 years agoPost 7
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It will cost less for decent servos than it will to fix a crashed caused by them. I can not emphasize enough DO NOT USE THOSE SERVOS IN A NITRO 50!

If you're trying to save money get some 5625s

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12-23-2008 08:24 PM  8 years agoPost 8
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hmmmm two posts of the same thread?? This one must have been moved..

I sold another one to Terrafirma...... wife wants to know where the money's at!!!!

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12-23-2008 10:11 PM  8 years agoPost 9
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Servos

I concur with the 5625, I'm running them in my Pantera with the OS 50 and they do great, especially on 6V. Servo city has some great deals right now on Hitec: http://servocity.com/

You may see Hitec sales elsewhere as well.

If you want some insurance, just jump up to the JR 8717. Then you know your cyclic servos won't be the weak point!

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12-26-2008 11:22 PM  8 years agoPost 10
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HS-5645MG Digital Torque

I was looking at servo city, and I found a sale on these sets of servo, are they a good servos to go with for the cyclic ??

http://www.servocity.com/~servo/htm...tal_torque.html

thank youuuu !!!!

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12-26-2008 11:26 PM  8 years agoPost 11
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Your list looks like your going to have a top notch bird.
One thing I would do is go with a pin switch for your regulator.
Other then that. All I can type is....
WE WANT PHOTOS!

My name is Billm. Cough, and I'm a Heli Holic

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12-26-2008 11:40 PM  8 years agoPost 12
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Thank youuu !

but do you think the list for the servocity is a good servo to get ??

http://www.servocity.com/~servo/htm...tal_torque.html

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12-27-2008 12:28 AM  8 years agoPost 13
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I got three servos HS-5645MG Digital Torque for 130 dollars I saved like 30+ dollars , !!

do you guys have any recommendations for a regulator battery and charger for Arizona regulator ??? am intending to run 6v setup !

thanksss

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12-27-2008 03:28 PM  8 years agoPost 14
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but do you think the list for the servocity is a good servo to get ??

http://www.servocity.com/~servo/htm...tal_torque.html
standard speed, mega torque! they should be great servos, just don't expect to do crack rolls! However flying around they will serve you well.

as for battery/charger. - my thought is you have to decide if you're just dedicating to the RX, or you want to use the charger (or even the battery) for other things. You don't need a pack that can deliver a lot of current for the receiver, but you do need a decent amount for the digital servos. I wouldn't recomend under 2000 mAh capacity, most in the Arizona regulator camp talk about 4000 mAh to 5000mAh. Larger capacity will ensure you could get a full day of flying, and it also helps balance the model. I personally use a 3200mAh I happened to have and even with my 8717s it lasts me all day (only my all day is never longer than a couple of hours due to my 2yo) If you are dedicating the pack to the RX, any decent pack of the size that fits your weight/budget/etc should be fine.

As for the charger - this is harder. I say that because I fly electric heli's and planes. If you're just charging the RX pack, a basic 2-4 cell low amp balance charger is cheap and conveniant. If you want to charge anything else - there are a lot of options. I have an Accu-Cycle Elite that can charge two batteries at once, made specifically for recharging TX and RX at the field. It's currently my favorite charger I own, however I'm limited to 2A per side, and I have to use a separate balancer for LiPo as I charge. I also have a Triton II. Nice, and I can charge to 4A (limited by my power supply) but I still need a separate balancer and only one pack at a time.
my current 'wish list' uber charger - cellpro10
http://www.fmadirect.com/new_applic...10s_charger.htm
this is because I have a Pantera converted to electric, and fly electric in addition.

so, now that I blathered on for a while, I hope at least some of that was helpful

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12-27-2008 03:41 PM  8 years agoPost 15
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thank you very much that was so helpful !!

do you recommend the battery that is listed on the arizona regulator website:

http://www.fromeco.org/Products/01F...01/Default.aspx

or as you said you recommend going to more than 2000 + ?

thankssss

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12-27-2008 04:07 PM  8 years agoPost 16
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Fromeco batteries are top-notch. can't go wrong there!

check out this thread (if you haven't) on balance: http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t481473p1/

You can do an Audacity forum search on balance; most like to put in larger batteries to try and balance better. My 3.2Ah and no horizontal fin, I'm still slightly tail heavy. I fix it with trim because I don't spend enough time inverted yet to notice.

Once I start using LiFePo, I'll probably use them (2S2P)for my RX to get better balance.

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12-27-2008 04:20 PM  8 years agoPost 17
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the second question is since i have the power supply and since am gonna have the battery didicated only for the receiver , is 2-4 cells enough ? 2600 or 5200 am more toward getting the 5200 just to have more flight time i guess and what kind would be the best, lithium Ion or li polymer ??
as u can see am almost cluless on the battery stuff

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12-27-2008 04:32 PM  8 years agoPost 18
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I found these charger for 2-4 lithium ion battery !!

http://www.batteryjunction.com/r1em-wc4.html
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...?&I=LXMAH9&P=ML

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12-27-2008 04:37 PM  8 years agoPost 19
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Li-Ion tend to be a little heavier, tougher, and discharge at a lower current than LiPo. They're great for RX, hence Fromeco uses them. They do charge differently than LiPo, so it would be best to have a charger that has the programming or that you can set for the requirements to maintain the battery. the 5200 would be the pack I reccomend.

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/index.htm

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12-27-2008 04:44 PM  8 years agoPost 20
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thank you very much then I will go with the following::

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...?&I=LXMAH9&P=ML
as a charger

http://www.fromeco.org/Products/01F...10/Default.aspx

as a battery

thank you again !!

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