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12-24-2008 04:34 AM  8 years agoPost 21
bigdad390

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East. Liverpool,​Ohio

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I learned to fly helicopters with a GMP Cricket, 4 channel AM Futaba airplane radio with no gyro.

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12-24-2008 05:20 AM  8 years agoPost 22
ch-47c

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I learned on a Kalt Baron 28 with no gyro. It's difficult, but can be done with practice. You learned to add/reduce tail rotor as you climbed and landed like a real heli. I didn't one have because I couldn't afford the $59 for a GMP gyro or Kraft/KO gyro. I didn't know how to dial-in Revo-Mix or Accel at the time. My second heli was a GMP Cobra and I bought a Futaba G153 or something. It was so expensive and the center springs broke. 1985.

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12-24-2008 12:18 PM  8 years agoPost 23
bigdad390

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Yes, I learned to fly without gyros, back in the middle to late 70's, never actually bought or installed a gyro till I bought a Concept 30 DX in 1990 and found the little 30-powered heli just too twitchy to fly without.

We were still making helicopter parts out of dinosaur bones then, and since oil and petroleum products hadn't actually formed by then, were forced to distill our own nitromethane and alcohol out of partially decomposed Pterodactyls that still roamed Montana at the time.

Stuff I flew without gyros? Schluter Heliboy, Helistar, MiniBoy, Champion, Superior, GMP Cobra and Cricket, American RC Helicopters Revolution (although technically, that piece of junk never left the ground under its own power), Kavan Jet Ranger, an xCell 60 heli that would be the equivalent of today's Miniature Aircraft Sport Trainer 60, and a Concept 60.

Of course, many of those helis were also flown with non-computerized, 4 and 5 -channel AM airplane radios and lots of bellcranks and linkages. The Schluter stuff became much easier when the early heli radios were introduced and FM radios became readily available (Airtronics, JR Century VII, Futaba 7F-GHI).

The learning curve was long and expensive, mainly due to the absence of the gyro. Learning to control the tail WHILE learning to hover was not a cake walk. Today's Heading Hold gyros make life much easier for the newbie as you really don't have to pay much attention to the tail when learning to fly these days.

About 1972 -- AM four channel radio, no gyro, barely any helicopter:

Miniboy, Futaba FP-5FN AM 5-channel radio, no gyro...and flew very well. First heli I successfully looped with, about 1982...

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12-24-2008 12:26 PM  8 years agoPost 24
heliman53

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Did it just a few weeks ago at work, one of our birds had the sensor just quit. So no gyro and no electronic compensation in radio. I learned years ago without gyros with a Kavan jet ranger then heliboys and Kalt machines. Do I want to go back to no gyro? No but it can be done. Craig B

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12-26-2008 03:55 PM  8 years agoPost 25
jczankl

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AZ

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I still fly a few heli's without a gryo.

GMP Cricket-Fixed Pitch
Schluter Heli-Star-Collective Pitch

As long as the mechanical set up is fine. Should be a big issue at all.

GAUI/Empire
Spinblades
PowerMaster Fuels
Graupner
Castle Creations
Scorpion Motor

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