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12-22-2008 09:40 PM  8 years agoPost 1
wpoel

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When I am doing auto rotations in idle up1 I always have to close fully the throttle below 25% as the throttle jockey adjustment is like that.
Above 25% it will not close the throttle as a matter of design.
What I actually want to do is when I activate the gear switch to cut the throttle for auto rotattion I also want to switch off the Jockey.
I am using JR PCM10X radio but how can I achieve this.
So the gear switch has to do two things at once!
Anyone idea??
Thanks in advance.

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12-23-2008 01:15 AM  8 years agoPost 2
JuanRodriguez

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I'm not sure I understand your question but are you doing "real" autorotations by flipping the "throttle hold" switch ??

If so, that will overrides "idle up" and since the throttle automatically goes below 25%, your throttle jockey automatically disengages.....

I don't like to do autos while in idle up because once I'm on the ground and switch out of throttle hold, the motor abruptly races while pitch is at full negative.....

I have no idea what you would gain by doing an auto in idle up....

Please explain ??

PS-- I use the gear channel to turn the throttle jockey on or off but I use the "throttle hold" switch to do autorotations....that's what it's designed for....

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12-23-2008 09:27 AM  8 years agoPost 3
wpoel

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autorotations

I am flying in mode one so pitch and throttle on the left stick.
This is why I use the gear switch on the left for doing auto rotations.
The Throttle Jockey however is not connected to an aux channel but set up manually on the model.
If the throttle hold is overriding the throttle jockey when activated the answer on my question is clear.
All I want is that if I activate the gear switch the throttle goes in idle and the throttle jockey goes below 25% at all stick positions in idle up.

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12-23-2008 03:25 PM  8 years agoPost 4
JuanRodriguez

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wpoel ,

If you say your pitch and throttle is on the LEFT stick , then you are flying MODE 2, same as most flyers in the USA....... With MODE 1, your pitch and throttle would be on the RIGHT stick.....

So, which is it ??

If you're flying with pitch and throttle on the LEFT stick (Mode 2) then everthing I said in my above post applies....... Throttle Hold (used for autorotations) overrides whatever "stunt" mode you are in..... Thus, throttle goes below 25% and your throttle jockey automatically disengages.

Still, I would NOT do autorotations while engaged in stunt mode (Idle up 1 or 2) for the reasons stated above.......

Lastly, if you are really flying Mode 1 with the throttle and pitch on the RIGHT stick, throttle hold should work just the same in that mode.....

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12-23-2008 04:24 PM  8 years agoPost 5
wpoel

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Things are very clear now!

You are rite I am flying mode two!
What you wrote in your answer is correct and indeed I tried out and the hold switch overrides the TJ.
As the JR PCM 10X should be used as hand radio I stopped recently flying with a pult what I used to do for more than 20 years.
More and more I get a good feeling and may be I go back to use the right hand site hold switch again.
You mentioned about doing auto rotations in idle up 1 but this is normally my last figure after flying round and once on landed I go back to normal mode to stop the engine.
However if you recommend other way please teach me and I can improve things!
We are never to old to learn.
Things are very clear now and I thank you very much for the support.

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12-23-2008 06:34 PM  8 years agoPost 6
JuanRodriguez

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No problem, wpoel ......glad to be of​help.......

However if you recommend other way please teach me and I can improve things!
After I get done with every flight, I always finish up with a handful of autorotations just to keep in practice....... When I do that, I switch out of idle up 1 first and then do the autos. That's how I do it but it's personal preference....That way I'm less prone to have an "accident" by forgetting that I'm in idle up 1 after switching out of "thottle hold"..... If I were to forget, then the motor would go to full throttle instantaneously while on the ground and it might take you off guard....

Your method will work just fine as long as you're comfortable doing it that way.....there really is no "right" or "wrong" way to do it.

Happy Holidays !

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12-24-2008 05:46 PM  8 years agoPost 7
wpoel

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autorotation practice

I did several auto rotations last afternoon and it works excellent now since I adjusted the throttle setting in hold position.
As the engine rpm in hold position was much to high the clutch did not disengage!
Anyway I learned again a lesson now and I will probably use the right hand site throttle hold switch.
Thanks a lot for the support and nice holliday too.

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12-25-2008 04:59 AM  8 years agoPost 8
Paul Woodcock

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Hi

If you can 'move' the throttle hold switch from one switch to another switch on your TX and this can be confirmed by the throttle going to idle and not moving with the now only pitch inputs from the Stick, then the TJ will work.

Regards
Paul

PS: I do autos from 'idle2' because if I abort for whatever reason, i may be in some attitude other than upright.....I have been doing rolls/flips during autos.....you MUST just remember to go to 'norm' before disengaging 'auto' when you have landed.

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12-25-2008 03:35 PM  8 years agoPost 9
JuanRodriguez

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If you can 'move' the throttle hold switch from one switch to another switch on your TX
Unfortunately, the JR 10X does not have the capability to re-assign switches like the high end Futaba radios..... So if you wanted to "move" the switch, you would have to open up the radio case and physically move the switches....

Most, including myself, would not be willing to go through all that....

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12-25-2008 07:57 PM  8 years agoPost 10
wpoel

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throttle hold

Jean I think both switches can be used gear switch left and right.
In the throttle hold menu one can make choice witch one to use.
This is what I figured out??

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12-26-2008 03:14 AM  8 years agoPost 11
jschenck

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The Throttle Jockey however is not connected to an aux channel but set up manually on the model.
I would suggest setting up the TJPro with the aux channel. This will allow you to control the TJ speed with mixes to the idle-up function for different headspeeds in different idle-up modes.

But if you want to leave it in manual mode it should work just fine for auto's because when you flick the radio into Throttle-hold mode to shoot the auto it should drop the engine to idle which will dis-engage the TJ.

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12-26-2008 10:44 AM  8 years agoPost 12
wpoel

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TJ mixing

Thanks for your suggestion and for sure I have a lot of information now to set up my radio in a different way!

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