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12-22-2008 06:45 PM 9 years ago | Post 1 |
mrloudly rrVeteran Naseby Northampton England | Sooo many different ways/techniques to learn... What's the best?Andy Mps Thinking of buying a Quark or Minium to practise? | ||
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12-22-2008 06:49 PM 9 years ago | Post 2 |
smcbmw rrVeteran Louisville, Kentucky | I practiced on my sim for about a week straight and transitioned to the real thing with no problem.....10-8 | ||
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12-22-2008 06:56 PM 9 years ago | Post 3 |
copperclad rrElite Veteran NY | hi
when i learned nose in , i used Radd's school , and just followed his program , but nose in , plenty of sim time too , if you have one , HTH | ||
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12-22-2008 07:31 PM 9 years ago | Post 4 |
jjh23 rrApprentice great britain, south west | ive been learning nose in on the SIM lately, i cant remember where but somebody posted on here and said when you have it nose in, faceing you, push the cyclic stick whichever way the heli tiltsi.e, if when nose in the heli's tail tilts down, away from you, push the cyclic stick away from you and so on,i tried it this way and it works very well ![]() | ||
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12-22-2008 07:37 PM 9 years ago | Post 5 |
![]() rrElite Veteran Cincinnati Ohio | Plankers call it "fly the low wing"Me I think in terms of PORT and Starboard not left and right but Ive been in boating all my life so its habit. Port/starboard is always the same. Where as all your life left and right are never thought of in terms of "nose in". Port/Starboard lets you teach your head/fingers in terms that wont fight life long preception (left/right)But thats me RIP ROMAN | ||
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12-22-2008 07:51 PM 9 years ago | Post 6 |
![]() rrElite Veteran UK | Just build up to it slowly.Start at 45o increments, and work your way around a figurative clock face, it may be slower this way, but once you master each angle there wont be a point/ angle in a circuit you are uncomfortable with as you would have masterd them in the hover..Some put training undercarridge back on until they can master it, i personally learnt by doing the learning the clock face method..MattAll The Best | ||
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12-22-2008 07:56 PM 9 years ago | Post 7 |
cst4252 rrNovice San Francisco, CA, USA | I started in helis on Reflex, then bought a Hirobo XRB. I could hover nose in with the XRB and on the sim, but I moved up to a Trex 450 and wasn't really getting it. I bought a Quark and right away I was able to get the nose-in feel using the Quark. The skills translated quickly to the Trex.I can't recommend the Quark enough. I'm flying circuits on calm days outdoors. It's been really helpful. Unlike the Trex, the Quark is completely unintimidating.Chapman | ||
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12-22-2008 07:57 PM 9 years ago | Post 8 |
mrloudly rrVeteran Naseby Northampton England | P.sses me off! I can loop and roll but not nose in!!!!I'll crack it! Thanks for the tips guys!Andy | ||
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12-22-2008 07:57 PM 9 years ago | Post 9 |
mrloudly rrVeteran Naseby Northampton England | 600 and 700n by the way :-))Andy | ||
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12-22-2008 08:00 PM 9 years ago | Post 10 |
Cheech91060 rrApprentice Aberdeen, MD | Just more sticktime | ||
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12-22-2008 08:03 PM 9 years ago | Post 11 |
JetFire rrKey Veteran The Golden STATE | Definately some SIM time to avoid crash expenses. Just like any new manuever... keep it high so you have time to bail out if needs be. It also helps if you have some forward movement rather than a hover which requires more stick input. Practice either with circles or just have it fly away from you and back by utilizing a bank turn. As you get better then pause the heli into a hover just briefly and go again providing longer pauses each time until you can eventually hold it there. Just practice, practice, practice.Good luck
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12-22-2008 08:14 PM 9 years ago | Post 12 |
Skarn rrVeteran Pasadena, MD | SIMULATOR!I wouldn't even try it with the real heli until you can consistently nail it on the simulator.Good luck,Skarn It's better to burn out than to fade away... | ||
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12-22-2008 08:31 PM 9 years ago | Post 13 |
mrloudly rrVeteran Naseby Northampton England | Sussed it on the Sim... Every time I try real time it screws me....Keep flying tail circles and pushing forward whilst nose in, seems to be helping!Sure it's psychological....Andy | ||
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12-22-2008 08:33 PM 9 years ago | Post 14 |
mrloudly rrVeteran Naseby Northampton England | Why can I fly warbird models (bastard ones at that) fixed wing (and full size, but that's easy) and yet struggle with this...Andy M | ||
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12-22-2008 08:41 PM 9 years ago | Post 15 |
![]() rrProfessor Mass. |
Why can I fly warbird models (bastard ones at that) fixed wing (and full size, but that's easy) and yet struggle with this... | ||
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12-22-2008 08:55 PM 9 years ago | Post 16 |
mrloudly rrVeteran Naseby Northampton England | Thanks Doug!They really are b.stards!!Makes you realise just how good these 3D guys are!!Andy | ||
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12-22-2008 09:07 PM 9 years ago | Post 17 |
![]() rrProfessor Mass. |
Makes you realize just how good these 3D guys are!! | ||
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12-22-2008 09:13 PM 9 years ago | Post 18 |
![]() rrProfessor Dumont, NJ | Here is another method.
This method works for my old brain. For young people, there maybe other method that maybe better.Do not focus on whether to push/pull or left/right just do whatever it takes to get it to hover without moving.On sim, you can do this without aids. But on RC heli, use the training gear as you do when learing the tail-in hover.Start from the ground in nose-in attitude and get it to hover without thinking about directions. | ||
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12-22-2008 09:40 PM 9 years ago | Post 19 |
JetFire rrKey Veteran The Golden STATE |
Start from the ground in nose-in attitude and get it to hover without thinking about directions. | ||
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12-22-2008 09:45 PM 9 years ago | Post 20 |
![]() rrProfessor Dumont, NJ | By repeatition, just the way you first learned how to hover tail-in. You certainly can use little tricks like "push toward lower wing". But, less you think about it, better it will be. Hopefully you will push toward the wrong direction only one time. At least that is how I learned backward, inv forward, inv backward circuits (on sim with gazillion crashes) | ||
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