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HelicopterCompass Knight 50 ODIN 90 › ODIN special delivery. Build pics
12-27-2008 06:46 AM  8 years agoPost 61
vetrider

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Got my the replacement Fan today and got the heli finished. Thanks Kevin!! Ready for some FUEL!!!!

I put the canopy on and checked for any rubbing of the servo horns or anything else. No rubbing.
Someone mentioned getting to the needles on the carb. I can get to both of them by leaning the heli over some...no problem.

I set it up for +/- 11 degrees on some Radix 710 Non-Stick bangers.

Nolan

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12-27-2008 09:21 AM  8 years agoPost 62
Mercuriell

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Looking forward to your flight report

Shame they cut the data line out of the ESC - would have been fun to turn it on and off from the Tx - guess too much at stake if you forget to turn it on !!

John

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12-27-2008 02:27 PM  8 years agoPost 63
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esc

i tried to solder back data line.. but one not able to get it reprogrammed. seems to be factory set 100% throttle.

Vet.. you can pull 14 easy .. just hang on for the ride;-0

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12-27-2008 08:58 PM  8 years agoPost 64
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14!!!!!!!!!! That would be like getting my hands on a sweet 21 yr old (Female) bikini model. WAIT!!! I got daughters older than that!!!

Nolan

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12-27-2008 09:06 PM  8 years agoPost 65
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BWWWHAAAAAHAAAAAAAAHAAAAAA

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2AY6RDWjY

gives and indication of 14 pitch and think about 2100 head speed(no governor). sorry, very bad quality.

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12-27-2008 09:30 PM  8 years agoPost 66
vetrider

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That is SICK!

Nolan

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12-28-2008 03:32 AM  8 years agoPost 67
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Karman- We have in the UK a little controller built for us, that sits in line with a csm carb smart sensor and using a standard B/L speed controller (not the one supplied) can work either from the throttle setting or the feedback from the carb smart heat sensor, in fact we got a test unit that uses a carb smart at the same time, off one sensor! We also run some fault tests that default the controller to full speed, with a light flashing.

We had it running up bit like a turbine slowing increasing to full speed, then holding and then reducing to about 45% at hold position unless the sensor said otherwise!

Blade grips! Maybe one reason
Few years back we did test on the Knight 3D with thrust on the outside they would wear the thrust, so looking at the balls they sat in a cage but the holes had gone egg shaped with the plastic grips. But with them in the center, we had no problems at all!

Head mods we played with!
We ran a 4 hole mixing arm mod with good results, and carried out flipping the main grips like we have used on the 50 3d, think the grip flip works better than the mixing mod though!

Nolan- Question on the fan, can you tell me if the motor winding wires are incased in a resin, also do you screw straight into the fan case, we looked a damper system, so the fan bolts was floating in rubber grommets.

Rob

http://www.evorc.com for compass spares in the UK!

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12-28-2008 05:11 AM  8 years agoPost 68
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Nolan- Question on the fan, can you tell me if the motor winding wires are incased in a resin, also do you screw straight into the fan case, we looked a damper system, so the fan bolts was floating in rubber grommets.
Hi Rob, I couldn't tell anything unusual about the windings. Looked like most motor windings I've seen. The new motor had 4 screws holding the motor unit in the mount housing. the one delivered with the kit had NO screws in it at all other than the two on the fan blade hub.
I temporarily install two socket head 2mm screws in the bad unit and it would run after a 15 to 20 second delay...sometimes...sometimes not. It also did this when not installed in the fan mount housing.

The new fan works perfectly.

The Housing is mounted to the frame with a brass insert sleeved grommet. I hope my explanation helps.

Nolan

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12-28-2008 12:14 PM  8 years agoPost 69
DCJXB

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How can I fix FUTABA-GV1 on ODIN90? Could you show me some pictures while explaining it? Thanks

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12-28-2008 04:46 PM  8 years agoPost 70
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I used a multi-gov pro and the smaller sensor made the install easy.

The GV-1 sensor is much bigger and will not fit in the small area under the cross brace. I haven't had to do this before but you may be able to remove the plastic housing from the GV-1 sensor. It's just a protective cover that other manufacturers don't use.

I happen to have a GV-1 sensor that has the mounting tab broken off...imagine that.
I'll take the rest of it apart and take a few pics.

Back in a few.

OK back and here's what we have.

This is the cross brace that has a slotted grove to mount the sensor between it and the collet with the magnets. There is a 2.8mm gap between the brace and the magnets.

As you can see I had to dremel out some of the material for the Multi Gov sensor even. The Naked GV-1 sensor may fit with a bit more dremeling of material from the cross brace.

The GV-1 Sensor

GV-1 Sensor NAKED

This is how long the sensor is if mounted vertically (like normal). This may not be necessary as it may work fine mounted on it's side.

Nolan

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12-28-2008 05:25 PM  8 years agoPost 71
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the little plastic thingy on starter bolt(that holds magnets) can be removed easily and bottom part just cut down a bit and put back on.(thus slides down lower) gives about 5mm clearance.

i cut the whole smaller part off and just left the part holding magnets. and glued it onto starter thingy.

if not make sense will explain more.. cannot take pictures.. camera batteries decided to take holiday.... so much for high cycle count. ;-)

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12-28-2008 08:37 PM  8 years agoPost 72
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The other way is to drill the top of the clutch cover and mount a sensor on the inside of the frame.. ( note was using a single mag type gov)

Mixing arm mod to increase speed of cyclics

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12-28-2008 10:28 PM  8 years agoPost 73
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Just messing around in the shop and a new RC heli guy I met two houses down from mine came by. During the conversation about the fleet, it struck me that I have not weighed the Odin.

With the canopy on, no fuel and Radix 710's it sits at 9 lbs 4.2 ozs.
My 700N same engine/pipe, 710V's, no fuel sits at 10 lbs 5 ozs.

That's just over 1 lb. No wonder it pulls 13 degrees pitch easily.

Nolan

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12-29-2008 01:09 PM  8 years agoPost 74
DCJXB

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I'm very thankful for your help.

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12-29-2008 01:21 PM  8 years agoPost 75
vetrider

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Glad to help.

Nolan

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12-29-2008 10:25 PM  8 years agoPost 76
Regie

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MIXING ARM MOD

I thought that the speed of the cyclics are too fast by default. One even told me that the Odin is the snappiest of them all.

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12-29-2008 10:27 PM  8 years agoPost 77
Regie

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DATALINE ON ESC

So there's no way to control the fan via the Tx?

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12-29-2008 11:06 PM  8 years agoPost 78
vetrider

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Regie, it's all about how someone might like the heli to feel vers others.

Don't think you can SW the ESC as you have power all the time to the red/black wires. Only signal wire is controlled.
You might be able to swap the red and signal wire and get it to a gear sw. Have the off at ZERO position and on at +100 or -100 depending on polarity needed.

I wouldn't want it on a switch anyway. I have mine set to come on when I turn on the regulator and if I'm doing some bench work on the heli I just unplug the ESC. I keep that connector easy to reach.

Nolan

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12-29-2008 11:59 PM  8 years agoPost 79
beavis1

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WOW

9lb 4oz 90 that is sweet !

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12-30-2008 01:07 AM  8 years agoPost 80
vetrider

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Since I have three 90 size heli's I figure why not compare some physical profiles.

Sorry for no better lighting. It's just a dirty old garage/shop.

This is a Mid level shot from the side as they all sit. In the back left is a Stratus, Middle the 700N, and front the Odin. They are in order of the tallest to the shortest.

Canopies off show who has the most compact frames top to bottom. Notice that the 700N looks shorter and the rotor is just a hair lower to the surface than the Stratus.

Looking head on a better difference can be seen. The Odin looks like a 50 compared to the others.

Canopies off.

BTW.. I weighed the Stratus while messing around with this and it's approximately 10 lbs 9.3 ozs. Not to bad compared to the 700N. Maybe that is one reason the Stratus always felt good in the air to me.

Nolan

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