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12-13-2008 04:48 AM  8 years agoPost 1
whaleboy

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Is there a benefit one way or the other? I've been squeezing it into the cup, but recently got a wand with a one way built in. Should I attach it to the shaft instead, or does it just boil down to my preference?

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12-13-2008 04:57 AM  8 years agoPost 2
george0079

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preference.

I find that it has a more solid feel if it's attached to the starter.

Hell... I can fix that.
Uh oh..
Nope.
It's ***ked!!!
RE-KIT!!!!!

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12-13-2008 06:30 AM  8 years agoPost 3
whaleboy

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Thanks... I decided to take the cup off, but can't. Its a Sullivan Hi-Tork starter. I got the nut off, but the aluminum cup is stuck. I don't want to bang on it for fear of bending the main shaft. Is there a trick to it? I'll try heating it...

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12-13-2008 06:36 AM  8 years agoPost 4
flipped2left

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I believe the starter cup is screwed on there as well, my hobbico is.

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12-13-2008 06:53 AM  8 years agoPost 5
whaleboy

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I got it. realized it was threaded from another... well, thread. Heated it (burned my hand, ouch), and got pliers onto the main shaft and grabbed the cup with the bottom of a rubber mouse pad (great insulation as well as grip). It took some patience, but after a few minutes of trying, it finally broke free.

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12-13-2008 06:55 AM  8 years agoPost 6
flipped2left

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ok, great!

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12-13-2008 06:57 AM  8 years agoPost 7
Oneyeflyr

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It is personal prefrence

I've been using the wand in the cup because it doesn't bolt onto the shaft. But if I ever get a good wand that bolts on, I'm switching. Hopefully it can detach so that transportation is is easy.

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12-13-2008 06:57 AM  8 years agoPost 8
Gulf Driver

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The cup is screwd on. What I did was hook the starter up in reverse (clockwise looking at cup) turn starter on and grap cup with channel lock pliers "quickly" Helps if you have 2 people! Spins off every time! BE CAREFULL!!!!!!!!

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12-13-2008 07:02 AM  8 years agoPost 9
flipped2left

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i have both kinds and no use for either since i now have a gasser, not sure what they are worth, but still have to remember where they are, and my starter is up for grabs as well.

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12-13-2008 08:27 AM  8 years agoPost 10
Anthony.L

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The problem with the cup is it will eventually wear and start slipping. The direct mount on the starter shaft is the best option, but not the most compact.

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12-13-2008 09:13 AM  8 years agoPost 11
JetFire

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The direct mount on the starter shaft is the best option, but not the most compact
How so? Mine is compact. Unless your speaking of a sullivan in which I have not owned... so can't say.

In regards to which is better... as everyone has already stated, its personal preference. I've used both methods. The cone is more of a hassle and is more prone to wobbling IMO. However, the rubber inserts in the cone provides a little cushion so the wobble is not as noticeable as long as you got the other end connected to the starter shaft. Both way works but I prefer the direct connection.


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12-13-2008 01:48 PM  8 years agoPost 12
alchemist

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I have used both and the rubber cup will normally always give you a wobble as it wont be perfectly true in relation to the motor shaft. Sometimes this can cause the motor to completely throw the starter shaft out of the cup. If you have the option bolt straight onto the motor.

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12-13-2008 03:45 PM  8 years agoPost 13
rcmike

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I have been using the ones you stick into the rubber cone and have had good results with it. One little trick I did was to drill a small hole into the back of the cup so that air could escape when you push the extension in. Without it the air can't escape and you can't push it in all the way. I use the rubber cone because I use it for planes and helis.

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12-13-2008 06:00 PM  8 years agoPost 14
Oneyeflyr

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hey JetFire,
Where'd you get that starter shaft?

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12-13-2008 06:14 PM  8 years agoPost 15
JetFire

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Oneye,
Here you go.

http://www.centuryheli.com/mm5/merc...ory_Code=TLSTHW


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12-13-2008 06:18 PM  8 years agoPost 16
Mutt

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My setup is real compact. I have used both but I like this way much more.

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12-13-2008 06:23 PM  8 years agoPost 17
JetFire

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Yup... mutt has the right idea. That Century wand rocks. Had no problems with mine.


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12-15-2008 03:43 AM  8 years agoPost 18
Oneyeflyr

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Anyone ever use lipo batteries on starters?

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12-15-2008 05:28 AM  8 years agoPost 19
dkshema

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Same start shaft is available from Heliproz:

http://www.heliproz.com/prodinfo.asp?number=805390

I've been using one for something like four years now, it has way outlasted the $60 KSJ wand I bought prior to this one.

The bolt-on is more solid and not prone to popping out of the rubber start cone while trying to start your motor, an experience that is not always welcome...

The downside is that you have to either own a second starter if you fly planks, or use those good ol' fingers you own to hand start those plank motors...

If you don't fly planks, dump the rubber cone and get the bolt-on version.

Yes, people use LiPo batteries on their starters.

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12-16-2008 04:53 PM  8 years agoPost 20
PilotDaz

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Anyone ever use lipo batteries on starters?
I did it once when I was in a pinch and my NiMh's weren't working very good. Just be careful that you don't exceed the C rating of the LiPo's.

You could calculate that by using an Amp meter wired in series with the pack. Crank your heli over and check to see how many Amps are drawn while starting then add a percentage for safety.

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