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12-13-2008 12:12 AM  8 years agoPost 1
axemanclint

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Today was an awesome day! I did my first shots of some houses. I'm still working on the settings of the camera and to get it looking better with picture quality, but these aren't too bad to start with for the first time. The big house with tile roof that looks like a castle is actually my first paying gig. I am going to be shooting this house when it is finished being built. So today was just a test run to see how the shots look and where exactly to frame and fly the heli. Remember i am completely flying blind right now, i have no control of the camera position or any idea of how the shots look in the air. Its a fixed camera on a 45degree angle with a shutter button remote on the camera. I fly around and guess at the shots and just keep hitting the button on the TX. Anyway there is so much more to learn and fix and refine and change and make better... but this is a start.

Let me know what you think, advice, criticism, compliments, pointers, etc... i had a blast doing this shoot today, but man I was freakin nervous! I had the biggest lump in my throat and my heart was pounding the whole time, but man it was exciting! I can't wait to get better and better.

Thanks guys for all your help, the heli is starting to fly better now with some of the pointers from you guys.

"what goes up must come down," hopefully in one piece!

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12-13-2008 12:16 AM  8 years agoPost 2
Stet

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Couple observations

1) Watch your edges, try to get the whole house

2) don't get so much roof, try to shoot down at about 30 degrees from just over the roofline, as close as you can and still getting the whole house.

3) Your exposure is a little off, watch your lighting and the time of day you shoot, planning around the sun's angle. Cloudy days are better since they give a softer light.

Have fun !!

keepin' it real

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12-13-2008 12:23 AM  8 years agoPost 3
axemanclint

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Awesome!! thanks so much for the advice, i will keep all of that in mind next time. I know exactly what your talking about, i just wish i could actually see the shots to frame them correctly. I'm pretty much flying blind when doing my shots as far as the camera is concerned. I am going to have to figure out how to know what the shots look like just from the way the helicopter looks, until i can get some kind of downlink. Thanks again man, its great advice.
clint

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12-13-2008 12:32 AM  8 years agoPost 4
Stet

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You might put a stick on the bottom of the camera extending rearward so you can tell where the camera is pointing, that might help. Also, you might be able to get your camera to shoot every few seconds, then sit at different altitudes and distances and then check the data after you land.

Generally, I stand in the middle of the shot in an area where I can easily photoshop myself out. Then I look to see that the camera is pointed at me.

keepin' it real

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12-13-2008 02:23 AM  8 years agoPost 5
W4UAV

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Trust me, after the first thousand shots point heli and shoot style, you get a sense of what the camera is seeing by the results you get, it will come natural. I still bolt on my homemade solo mount and do some jobs with that, its like riding a bike. Your spatial awareness of what the camera under the heli is seeing will get there, after much repetition. I usually take a few shots up close then back the heli away and take a few. You might find a better angle after you land and check the shots.

I like the stick idea, too!

Mike

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12-13-2008 03:10 AM  8 years agoPost 6
nocontrol1

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Clint-
Congrats! It’s really exciting to have someone actually pay you for your shots. You’re off to a great start. I'll 2nd the suggestion to come a bit lower. Try to get more of the elevation of the house and less of a plan view of the roof. Also, as Mike mentioned, over time you will automatically get a good idea of where to put the camera to get the shot desired. If you can get a downlink it really helps to be efficient with your shots and saves a lot of time. You don't need anything real fancy. I've used this set for a few years and the picture transmission is good. Its range in practice has been more than adequate for this type of shot. If possible try to time your arrival so as to be able to shoot with the camera pointing away from the sun. Keep up the good work!

Rob D.

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12-13-2008 03:19 AM  8 years agoPost 7
axemanclint

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Wow nocontrol1,
Awesome photo, what a beautiful home. And great advice on how to frame the shot a lot flatter and more of the house and not the roof. I now have something to really shoot for, pardon the pun.
Anyway thanks again, you guys are great. Excellent advice. Keep it coming.

"what goes up must come down," hopefully in one piece!

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12-13-2008 03:20 AM  8 years agoPost 8
Swashmix

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You are off to a great start! Very crisp pics!
What heli and camera are you using?
Yes, they are some sweet monster homes.

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12-13-2008 03:26 AM  8 years agoPost 9
axemanclint

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Thanks swash.
Very nice of you to say. I'm using a trex600E stock, and a homebuilt mount and crappy camera. If you want to see my rig, go check out my gallery I have a whole section devoted just to my rig and AP work. Thanks again guys.

"what goes up must come down," hopefully in one piece!

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12-13-2008 06:42 AM  8 years agoPost 10
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what is the "angle of view" for the lens? figure out how far away you have to be to get the whole house in the photo, then add a safety margin to it.
good stuff! bet the wife's happy it's showing potential!

"Vini, Vidi, Velcro"

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12-13-2008 08:07 AM  8 years agoPost 11
axemanclint

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Thanks seablade,
I'll look into that.
Haha, your statement about "the wife being glad it's showing potential" was hilarious! You have no idea how right on the money you were with that statement. I believe her actual words were, "well it's about time.". Haha
Thanks guys
Clint

"what goes up must come down," hopefully in one piece!

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12-13-2008 02:41 PM  8 years agoPost 12
wjw

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If you think that made your wife happy, just wait until you bring home your first check, or when you can show her that your photos have just paid for all your equipment.
It's good to have a wife that supports what you are doing even if the money takes a little time to roll in, but when you bring home the bacon that's when you get the real support
Good job on the photo, keep em coming

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12-13-2008 02:50 PM  8 years agoPost 13
FLAP

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I started out with a 'crappy' camera too. It paid for my original mount, then a governor, then a Canon XT, 10-22mm lens, backup helicopter, Canon XTi, Helicommand HC3A, downlink (I shot blind too first couple of years), Joker Maxi 2, eagletree, etc. etc. Wife lets me use all the money for 'the business' and also supports the hobby...which, like few others that one can have, more than pays for itself. Have fun.

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12-13-2008 02:53 PM  8 years agoPost 14
oakley

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Nice first shots!!!

Seems I cant make any money because I just keep on buying other moutns and helis with the 'profits'.Fortunately,I have a great real job to support my faux job.

Fortunately,NO crashes in over 5 years with any of my equipment....knock on wood.I can see that with even one crash,the profits can go out the window much quicker than they come in.

The wife backs anything I do and even helps out pointing the two man setups, so that helps.

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12-13-2008 03:51 PM  8 years agoPost 15
macsgrafs

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Here's what I do. Know your lens first, in other words what is the horizontal field of view in degrees, then dont forget your cameras crop fact to add on. Lets say the lens is 65degrees FOV, get a OS map, a sheet of clear plastic & draw the field of view on the plastic, put it over the map & you can see how far away you need to be to get all you need in the shot. Good luck & welcome fellow AP addict

Ross

Seems to me that ALL heli's beat the air into submission

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12-13-2008 05:08 PM  8 years agoPost 16
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One thing I noticed is that a couple of your shots are blown out in terms of exposure. Will need to work on that some.

Try to shoot at diagonals to the property. Use shutter speeds around 1/360-1/400. Stick with ISO values in the ISO200 to ISO400 range depending on the day. This will yield apertures in the F5-F11 range, which is perfect for AP depth.

Here's one I did a while back:

www.louisianahelicam.com

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12-13-2008 05:13 PM  8 years agoPost 17
macsgrafs

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Notice how Louisiana Helicam has caught ALL the property, including the grounds, thats what sells my friend, not just the house, the grounds are part of the whole package.

Ross

Seems to me that ALL heli's beat the air into submission

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12-14-2008 12:48 AM  8 years agoPost 18
jhamlinjr

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axeman-Nice first shots!

Any advice that I could have provided already has. Very good info. Soak it all in. It is coming from some of the best.

Looks like you have got some good subject matter. That's half the battle won. Well, maybe a third of the battle.

My first shots were a lot of roof. I though you were supposed to get way up and take pics. Then I got some advice from here to fly lower and work on my angles.

Keep'em coming!

Jamie

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12-14-2008 12:59 AM  8 years agoPost 19
axemanclint

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Thanks again guys for all the compliments and advice. It's all great and very appreciated. All the advice is taken to heart. I am very excited about learning more about this wondeful new world of flying.

"what goes up must come down," hopefully in one piece!

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12-14-2008 04:17 AM  8 years agoPost 20
moses

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pic.

here is one i did with cheap equipment.a rappy50 and a home built mount and a cheap camera.

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