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12-13-2008 04:27 PM  8 years agoPost 21
Rotor

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What's the saying? "One bad apple spoils the rest".. I think that's how it goes..

The big three are in trouble until they decide to once again start producing the best cars and trucks in the world.

Why would they expect their customers to pay premium prices for inferior products? It just doesn't work that way...

Make a great product at a fair price and they'll be fine..provided they get rid of the union mentality and for sure get some new execs in there that know something other than how to make themselves rich.

Fire the current execs and get rid of the union. That's a start...

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12-13-2008 04:51 PM  8 years agoPost 22
Dennis (RIP)

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The union is not all bad just has some bad apples.
Yeah, bad apples all right:

Here's an article on big 3 labor costs:

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Economy/wm2162.cfm

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12-14-2008 06:35 AM  8 years agoPost 23
jimco

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Not to worry: We will all be on minimum wage fore long. Its all preplanned. I can just see you getting a loan for a 25000.00 car, while making 7.50 an hour. Be a damned 15 year loan. Only in Amerika.

Honey, where's the check book, it's Fedex again

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12-16-2008 05:33 AM  8 years agoPost 24
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my point is that if trade was fair, then the products made over seas should be priced to what Americans are building here. would you by a rc helicopter if it was made in America if it means that someone would have a job here with or without a union? the problem with the unions is when ever a strike happened it should have been to save jobs here in Ameirca and not just for better benifits. i think that the union needs our help, but with certain guide lines. what would be fair is that if a company who has a great work relationship with it's employees should have the choice to unionnize or not. i am not union, but have seen the benifits gained from unions. such as health and safety on the job that wasn't there or would not have improved working conditions for all of us. so think about how much was also gained from unions as well as how much was lost. we all have very safe work places across the country, i know that it was not all just the union, but they planted the seed. if you, kill the uions then think about who will be effected by that. nurses, fire fighters, police, water worker, highway worker, contruction worker, ect... all have unions, i could go on and on. the union needs to be revamped that's for sure! and the America people needs to revamp their way of thinking and do the jobs WE all let go out of this country!

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12-16-2008 06:18 AM  8 years agoPost 25
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Reading all of the boo hooing about the unions is enough to make a person sick . The majority of people whining about the unions were all raised in a union workers household(although many won't admit).

As the days have moved on where the unions have downsized in numbers due to the lack of jobs thanks to the GREEDY business people. People seem to forget where it was they came from,about the union labor that fed them and clothed them and housed them . So to all the boo hooers go cry for someone that actually gives a sh!t .

What better of a time is there than right now for the corrupt,greedy companies in America to cry about how bad the unions are hurting them than while the economy is crumbling. Anybody ever heard the phrase "monkey see,monkey do" ? That's just what the GREEDY business people have done once they saw the government handing out cheese to all the corrupt corporate rats in America .

As far as i'm concerned let all three auto mfgrs get washed down the corrupt cornhole of America due to their own greed, and maybe the next line of auto mfgrs will reflect on the has beens and not make the same fatal mistake.

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12-16-2008 06:39 AM  8 years agoPost 26
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Your signature is ironic, considering that the vast majority of union dues go to go the Democratic party....

Mikado Logo 400, hopefully ready by spring.

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12-16-2008 12:43 PM  8 years agoPost 27
Rotor

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All the "Pro Union" talk is making me sick!

Can you not see what the unions have done to this country? Man, open your eyes...it's all around you. (They have helped elect someone to the presidency that will try to turn this country into a social state. Why, because that is what the unions as a whole believe it should be. Now, it's already starting to bite them in the but and he hasn't even taken office yet!

Where I work (I've been there about 20 years) we have management and hourly workers. We have many drivers...they are Teamsters. I have set in meetings, several over the years, and listened to the owners talk about how important our drivers are and that our company could pay them more and would like to pay them more as well as better benefits but it has turned into a competition.

The union wants as much as it can get and the company now wants to see how much they can keep the union from getting. It is no longer an owner/employee relationship. It is like a tennis match trying to win over the other. If the company gives something extra over and above what the union says they want it is taken as a concession and they want more. The company owners realize this so they negotiate very hard now so that doesn't happen.

It takes a team of lawyers to fight the union. Guess what? The lawyers are getting the money that the union workers would get if they weren't union.

The unions for the most part hurt the companies they work for, the economy, they hurt this country, and they hurt themselves..All due to greed at this point. I can see how way back when the union were a good idea and it helped the workers but their greed has now poisoned them to where they need to be done away with.

So, stop whining about how glorious the unions are and don't fall for their propaganda as it's not changed over the years. All companies and all owners are money hungry, no good dictators and we need the union to survive. There's a Greek word for that....Malarkey!

My motto is this..Fly...Rebuild...Fly

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12-16-2008 01:33 PM  8 years agoPost 28
Juggernaut

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Consider this, what background do the union leaders have.
The majority I know in the past, were previous employees, and move up in the ranks in the union.
Also the union have many rules and conditions they do not tell you, because it could harm them.
for instance in Ontario, union dues, can be sent to a charity and not the pockets of the union, if a committee of 12 union employees form and decide on an item, example where to sent the charity money, they have to listen and vote, ( not them, but then employees).
There are many others they do not tell the workers, fearing they can take control away from them. They can also vote in another union leader, almost same procedure as going for the president position.

Frankly my opinion, unions foster laziness and contempt.



Finally learned to fly inverted, Helps if you stand on your head

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12-22-2008 03:20 PM  8 years agoPost 29
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http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/0812...cd_unemployment
PARIS, Dec 22, 2008 (AFP) - The global economic crisis will push up unemployment by up to 25 million by 2010, the OECD head forecast on Monday, saying there had been a "truly scandalous failure" of regulatory supervision.
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"We're heading for a loss of between eight and 10 million jobs in the OECD area... and 20 to 25 million in the world as a whole between now and 2010," Angel Gurria said on France's BFM radio.

The International Labour Organisation earlier forecast that the number of global unemployed could go up by 20 million to reach a record high point of 210 million people by the end of 2009.

The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development in Paris brings together 30 countries, including all the world's industrialised economies. The group conducts research and publishes economic forecasts.

Gurria also said that European countries should spend more in stimulus plans to kickstart their economies and suggested that the European Central Bank should lower interest rates because of falling inflation.

The European Union should "go beyond" the fiscal stimulus plans already announced, equivalent to around 1.4 percent of GDP, since "all the other major countries are going beyond that," Gurria said.

He also said that the OECD economies were in recession in the current quarter and would remain so for at least the first two quarters of 2009, with many countries being in recession for most of 2009.

"We predict a recovery at the end of 2009 and weak growth in 2010" he said.

Commenting on the build-up to the crisis, Gurria said there had been "a truly scandalous failure of regulation... and supervision", and poor risk management and corporate governance by companies.



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