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12-10-2008 08:07 PM  9 years agoPost 121
Tag1260

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Ok. Learned a valuable leason today. No matter what you do to prep it, you can't practice on a plastic Folgers can!!! Paint won't stick!!!
Same with a WD40 can. However, I didn't wipe down the WD40 can with anything, I just sanded it a little.

Guess I'm going to break down and put the paint on my canopy instead of practicing.

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12-10-2008 08:19 PM  9 years agoPost 122
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LOL,you picked two of the hardest things to practice on.You could try a piece of glass next time.It would stick to the can if you had wiped it down with lacquer thinner first,and warmed it up to room temp.

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12-10-2008 08:21 PM  9 years agoPost 123
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hehe dido! I think i told you before but thats a grease can and the two don't match really well. Try a bucket first, that's what I used to test my paint on and it works out really well

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12-10-2008 09:01 PM  9 years agoPost 124
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Ever sit in the shop and look around for something and something "seems" like a good idea at first.

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12-10-2008 09:05 PM  9 years agoPost 125
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lol yeah I do that all the time, like right now I need to finish my homework and than I look up and play with the paint, the airbrush, watch tv, check RR, answer one question and than back to step one

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12-12-2008 10:10 AM  9 years agoPost 126
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Plastic signs work and with all the elections over they are all over, or I purchased coragated sign boarf for 80 cents for a 4 X4 sheet including shipping. Use to use them to make pizza box flyers.
I buy my frisket from the local crafts store using a 50% off coupon. Scuff the surface and wipe down with alcohol, mask and spray.
My tests with the Parma water based paints have been better then I would imagine, they spray nice and seem to bind with the plastic like the lacquer based paints. Some filler and elbow work and it will be time for paint.

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12-12-2008 03:48 PM  9 years agoPost 127
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So you guys use a 1000 grain sand paper before adding the primer?

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12-12-2008 03:59 PM  9 years agoPost 128
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I used 320 before the primer to have something to grave onto but you can use 400 aswell. I think 1000 is to smooth for that....

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12-12-2008 04:09 PM  9 years agoPost 129
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yes I to use 320 and 400 wet on primer. 600 1000 wet is good for color sanding

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12-12-2008 04:12 PM  9 years agoPost 130
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It seems like I made my T500 canopy too smooth I still have to buy almost everything though, so no worries. I'm really looking forward to do my Stratus canopy, but I need some practice first.

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12-12-2008 04:15 PM  9 years agoPost 131
OH-6 Cayuse

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hehe yeah that 1000 grid will make it really smooth, but just give it a go with either 320 or 400 and you'll be good for the primer. Good luck and keep us posted on the progress! What kind of design are you going for, and what are you using to spray the paint?

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12-12-2008 04:18 PM  9 years agoPost 132
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I'm using an Iwata revolution BR. I think I'll make something that looks like an Insane Canopy, with a nice wet finish. Well, thats what I'll be aiming for, I dunno if I can make it look that good.

I'm still thinking about using waterbased or solvent based paint. The best thing to do would be to visit an airbrush shop in the vacation for loads of advise.

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12-12-2008 05:10 PM  9 years agoPost 133
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oh man well keep us updated on the progress and good luck. Take your time and I'm sure you'll get what you want! Water colors are a pain to get right but once you do it's really great because they're not as harmful as solvent based. Lacquer is really good and almost effortless to spray. But let us know what you come up with!

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12-12-2008 11:17 PM  9 years agoPost 134
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I use 320 on the canopy and 400 once the base is shot. I use 1000 or 1500 after color has been applied. It works to remove levels when using masked areas, just shoot clear and lightly hit it with 1000 until the steps in the colors are gone and shoot a final coat of clear and polish it and it you end up with a smooth wet look!
Good Luck

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12-13-2008 06:21 PM  8 years agoPost 135
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great info there Roger!!!

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12-14-2008 06:14 AM  8 years agoPost 136
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Here is a great paint reducer for water based paint

4 cups of distilled water
1 cup of window cleaner (Windex)
1 cup of rubbing alcohol
5 drops of glycerin

Save yourself big bucks too!!!
I actually prefer it to any other product, this stuff works great!

Use the window cleaner to clean up your airbrush, just remember to wipe it down with clean water to remove the ammonia in the cleaner.

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12-14-2008 05:15 PM  8 years agoPost 137
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hey where can you get the glycerin from? I hear it's available at a pharmacy right?

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12-15-2008 01:41 PM  8 years agoPost 138
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That's correct... My wife picked up a bottle at my local Giant food store in the pharmacy section.

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12-15-2008 04:04 PM  8 years agoPost 139
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Use the window cleaner to clean up your airbrush, just remember to wipe it down with clean water to remove the ammonia in the cleaner.
So you have used this recipe but I am still confused that if you have to make sure rinse the window cleaner because of ammonia what does the ammonia do to the paint when used as a reducer??

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12-15-2008 04:19 PM  8 years agoPost 140
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I have no clue man but I'm going to try to replace the windex for the 4011 reducer and see what happens. hopefully it's for the best but I wish I knew what amonia does to paint myself!

I also heard that AA came up with a new reducer formula and you can tell by looking at the item number and it should start with P or something like that I can't find where I read that on their website

How old is that company(AA)? I wonder why after all the time they've been in business, they still can't come up with a resolution specially after all the complaints!

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