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07-14-2008 01:03 AM  9 years agoPost 1
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AZ

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I just finished my NSP and Im wondering if there are any areas that need modified. I have read that some of the tail booms and sliding out as well as the tail cases. Has Align fixed these issues or do I need to "pin" them.
I have also read that the Align goveners have had problems as well. Im just looking for potential problems to fix before the first flight.

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07-14-2008 02:52 AM  9 years agoPost 2
w12martin

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Shantou, Guangdong, China

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Yes!! The problem wasn't resolved...
Have to say that my first crash with my NSP was because the tail case was rotated during a simple fast piro!
The second accident that I got last week was because the tail boom slided out during a piroflip.
Dont' ask me if the bolts where over tightened or loosened...
Everithing was correctly mounted according to the manual and checked before flying!
The cost of my last crash is more than 500 dollars...
I'M REALLY DISAPPOINETD WITH ALIGN!!!!
These kind of issues are UNACCEPTABLES!!
I hope Align will think about this and find a solution as soon as possible...

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07-14-2008 03:21 AM  9 years agoPost 3
louk05

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yes

get rid of the CF tail boom. I crashed my because of it coming out. You can see it under the helis over Delaware post. My crash But it was due to thew CF tail boom coming out. You can not tighten the tail boom enough to get it to hold it in. The best resolve is to CA it in but I would not eve trust that. I would just get rid of it. as far as the tail case I have had no problems with that. It is the CF tail boom only. there is no other problem. You can not tighten it enough. That is why the boom comes out and the tail case slips. That is what I would do. I have and have had no problems with it at all since then. Yes the CF looks good but its not good. That is why the one on the 700 is aluminum with CF wrap on the 700. The new CF booms on the 600 will be like that as well but have not yet made them or they are not out yet. That is my recommendation. Get rid of the CF tail boom. put on a black or blue what ever your head is. I did the blue. Looks better. Good luck and if you have any questions let me know

Fly Hard,Crash Hard,Upgrade, Align,AMA#906056

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07-14-2008 04:01 AM  9 years agoPost 4
w12martin

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What I had in my NSP was a aluminium tail boom wrapped in carbon!!
This is the tail boom that comes with my NSP kit and the tail that came out when I crashed my bird!
About the Align governor!! Never had a problem with it...

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07-14-2008 05:59 PM  9 years agoPost 5
louk05

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HMMM

The one that came with mine was CF only. Not aluminum wraped??? I know they are coming out with them because of this problem so you can tighten them down. Are you sure it was CF with Aluminum???? I just am pretty sure they are all CF??? every one I know has just CF tail booms. I have seen a lot of NSP and all were just like mine. Any ways I would get rid of the CF tail boom and go with a Aluminum one for now

Fly Hard,Crash Hard,Upgrade, Align,AMA#906056

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07-14-2008 10:45 PM  9 years agoPost 6
flyride

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Salt Lake City UT

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They are alum wrapped with carbon fiber in the NSP kit look inside of the boom it is alum and out side is carbon. Did you guys rough up the end with sand paper before installing it in the tail or boom support?

and the blonde said "RECTUM, Hell damn near killed em!!"

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07-15-2008 02:44 AM  9 years agoPost 7
w12martin

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I'm sure the tail boom is aluminium wrapped in carbon!
I already installed the CF and wrapped with two sides tape like the gyro tape but thiner...
Seems to be strongly fixed the tail now...
Hope this will work!!

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07-15-2008 06:38 AM  9 years agoPost 8
swasey1982

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2 turns of eletrical tape might solve your issues

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07-15-2008 12:26 PM  9 years agoPost 9
adcnh

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NH

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I just got in to a 600 pro. I have been mostly MA ships and still fly them. Her is my question in regards to this post. On MA we always pin the tail boom. Can this be done on the 600 (i am not at home to look at it to see) and if it can, why don't you just do that. I will look when i get home and see if i can drill a hole in the front and rear and just add a 2MM bolt and be done with he problem. I don't know at this point if it can.

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07-15-2008 01:16 PM  9 years agoPost 10
w12martin

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Yes!! It is possible to bolt or pin the tail bom...
Very effective way to secure it IMO.

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07-15-2008 01:29 PM  9 years agoPost 11
xahhax

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Switzerland, Lausanne

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What I do not understand is why Align, who seems to be a reactive company does not quickly fix this on the 600.
Ok the mod is not complicated to do, but still, would be nicer if designed and built ok from the start.
Mine did not slip, luckily, but twisted in flight about 30 degrees.
Gyro did a good job to continue flying!
Now it is pinned

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07-15-2008 03:41 PM  9 years agoPost 12
adcnh

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Keep in mind that with MA, at 1200.00 per kit, the only one that comes ready to pin the front is the BW stratus and that just came out. So i would say that with any Hobby or Sport the end user is always going to find improvement to make and do them that is what sets apart the experienced from the beginner. I think this happenes just about 99% of the time. The Pro will always improve a manufactured product, you see it all the time from 500.00 Helli's to 1 million dollar race cars and ervery hing in between. Just my 2 cents on the matter.

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07-15-2008 09:22 PM  9 years agoPost 13
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AZ

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NSP

Thanks for the replies.
My boom is aluminum wrapped with carbon. There is a hole in the end of the boom like my 90 SE has but there is nothing that goes into it. Don’t like the idea of drilling into my new shiny tail case but it sounds as if the best solution is to “pin” the tail case. A small amount of glue in front of the horizontal fin mount should keep the boom from sliding backwards.

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07-15-2008 09:30 PM  9 years agoPost 14
antsdd

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leeds west yorkshire

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i have just read this thread i was not aware of this problem but now i do would drilling and tapping a small hole in each end then lock tight a bolt to act as a kind of grub screw work i just thought it would look neat and tidy thats all

http://www.horburyhelicopterclub.co.uk/index.html

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07-24-2008 07:40 PM  9 years agoPost 15
carlangas

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Mexico City

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PIN IT !!!

Hi

Just PIN IT !!!, it takes you 10 - 15 minutes, no more (drill, tap, clean shavings, install and CA or Locktite it). It is worth the extra effort and will pay back. I've heard lots of terror stories like these and I do not want to run the risk.

I used two 2mm spare screws from my 450 v2, but you can use whatever you have on hand just take care not to rub the toque tube, one for top and the second one for the bottom of the tail case. I'm sure they will work ok since I'm in the built. Saturday will be the maiden flight.

Best

JC

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07-25-2008 12:48 AM  9 years agoPost 16
HydroJoe

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SF,CA

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My boom is aluminum wraped in CF too. Its pretty obvious looking at it. I pinned both ends of the boom just to be safe. I also installed a OS bubbless clunk, and plan to mabey use the Hayes clunk line when it arrives. I only changed it becuase my LHS had 'em and I figured i'd give it a try. I know a few people who run the stock fuel system with no issues. After 1.5 gallons, I am finding I want a new Rx lipo. The stock one doesent run that long. Other than those minor changes, I think it works pretty well stock. I was even suprised how well the stock gov worked, just make sure your sensor/magnets are installed properly.

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