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07-12-2008 10:28 PM  9 years agoPost 21
switch26

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well i guess it makes good sence then,trading an old junker that you are never ever going to fly or had too many problems with or have crahsed,$75 is actually a good deal for something thats just collecting dust,

i guess i thought they wanted newer helis that are on currently on the marquet,but i personally would just sell it to someone localy or even just donate it and try to help out in my comunity

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07-12-2008 10:38 PM  9 years agoPost 22
AltecLansing

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Just got new info on it. You can get up to 200 dollars on your heli. The heli has to be 30 size nitro or 600 class electric or larger. You can get up to 200 in credit toward certain helis. The heli you turn in must be of a competitive brand. It must have all the parts minus engine and electronics. Blades aren't mentioned. The parts turned in can be new or used, but the heli must be complete from bearings to belts, and head pieces. All of the heli basically. Raptor clones can't be turned in for this credit. Credits will be given once they receive the heli that meets all of their requirements. If not, you will be notified and will have to pay for return shipping. If you don't respond after 30 days, your heli will be disposed of.

So, it says competitive brand. I guess that leaves out helis that are no longer being manufactured. I don't know if that means no models of helis that aren't being made even though the manufacturer still exists.

Man, I miss the eighties.

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07-13-2008 01:27 AM  9 years agoPost 23
Billebob

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So, it says competitive brand. I guess that leaves out helis that are no longer being manufactured.
I think you better read the advert in the TT section as out of production helicopters are included. Something like a Cricket, Shuttle, GMP, etc are included from what I have read.

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07-13-2008 02:30 AM  9 years agoPost 24
tchavei

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They would be better of making TT design a new heli rather than trying to offer $75 to make someone buy their 12 year old piece of sh**

My two cents...

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07-13-2008 03:32 AM  9 years agoPost 25
Divot

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They would be better of making TT design a new heli rather than trying to offer $75 to make someone buy their 12 year old piece of sh**

My two cents...

Tony
And it's not even worth two cents.

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07-13-2008 03:51 AM  9 years agoPost 26
BJames111

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I think some are missing the point. I would think this program is aimed at people who have some other brand heli. It's stagnant, sitting on a shelf. Ace gives you $75 for something you werent using anyway and for whatever reason never got around to selling. In return they get a guy into a Raptor and hopefully rekindle his interest in flying R/C helis. I seriously doubt they resell anything they take in trade. I think they are likely to see guys trying to trade helis like an old Century Hawk, a dust covered Hirobo Shuttle or maybe a beatup Venture 30cp. I think THAT is the guy they are aiming at. Not us. Like we here on RR need any help adding fuel to our sickness?! I have 14 nitro helis as it is.
That's exactly what they're trying to accomplish. I don't think they're expecting people to send in a recent model Trex 600, or vibe 50 or anything. I'm sure you could though.

The Raptor works. It is STILL the most popular heli for a newbie to start on, at least from what I see. They fly fine, and you have to understand that there are a lot of people not interested in hard core 3d flying (gasp!) but the Raptor excels in ease of build, and sport flying. It does 3d as well, don't get me wrong..if you don't think so, look up a video of colin bell

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07-13-2008 03:52 AM  9 years agoPost 27
tchavei

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Let me guess... A hard necked Raptor lover probably?

I can understand why you guys don't want a new heli to come out. Would make all your models obsolete but sticking your head in the sand isn't going to make things better either.

How many machines do you think TT/ACE failed to sell since the vaccum cleaners took over?

The sad part is that they didn't even try to recover from the hit...

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07-13-2008 03:59 AM  9 years agoPost 28
AltecLansing

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The info I got came from my local hobby shop guy. He was told over the phone around 75 for a heli. He later showed me the ad given to him by ace, which isn't the ad posted in the thunder tiger. It didn't mention out of production helis in his ad. His said the trade in can be up to 200 dollars, but I believe you won't see that. Its based on the heli that is traded in. And little electrics smaller than a 600 e won't qualify.

Man, I miss the eighties.

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07-13-2008 04:10 AM  9 years agoPost 29
Divot

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Let me guess... A hard necked Raptor lover probably?
I will go on record as being such.
I can understand why you guys don't want a new heli to come out. Would make all your models obsolete but sticking your head in the sand isn't going to make things better either.
Not that I do not want a new heli, it's just guys like you associate
new products with flying skills. I am sure your heli hovers just fine.
How many machines do you think TT/ACE failed to sell since the vaccum cleaners took over?
Apparently you think the Raptor is a POS, why do you care?

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07-13-2008 04:25 AM  9 years agoPost 30
tchavei

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Not that I do not want a new heli, it's just guys like you associate
new products with flying skills. I am sure your heli hovers just fine
Nops. I'm sure the szabo would make a raptor 30 look better than an Aurora in my hands. No heli is going to make you look better than you really are.

My bird hovers perfectly fine thanks but I can't see the coorelation between how my bird hovers and the fact that somebody slept over and isn't trying to catch up.
Apparently you think the Raptor is a POS, why do you care?
Not just apparently but that would be enough for a whole new thread... I do care because the more new helis are out there, the better for us end consumers. I don't care if they are POS or not because I will choose the one that doesn't look like that to me but having alot of cheap POS machines out there will force quality machines to get priced lower too.

YOu honestly don't believe that the vibe 50 would be sold for 550 if there werent any vaccum cleaner around right?

Well, return to your 75 bucks deal as I can see that you're not willing to look a little further down on this whole thing... its not 75 discount coupons that will return the lost market share.

And once again... these are my two cents.

Tony

PS - Oh and if you don't like that people who think that raptors are a POS are posting in this thread then this topic shouldn't be in the main discussion in the first place.


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07-13-2008 05:03 AM  9 years agoPost 31
Divot

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Not just apparently but that would be enough for a whole new thread... I do care because the more new helis are out there, the better for us end consumers
This is why you care? You dislike Raptors...thats OK
But do not bulsh1t us, or pretend that your ideas have the
nobility of the hobby in mind.

A person such as yourself who hates Thunder Tiger would rather see them go away rather than look to them for the advacement of the hobby.
PS - Oh and if you don't like that people who think that raptors are a POS are posting in this thread then this topic shouldn't be in the main discussion in the first place.
Never said anything about this
I don't care if they are POS
Yet you made a point to of it.
Well, return to your 75 bucks deal
WTF this is not my deal.
And once again... these are my two cents.
Again not worth the money

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07-13-2008 01:30 PM  9 years agoPost 32
darksidedave

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I don't think they're expecting people to send in a recent model Trex 600, or vibe 50 or anything. I'm sure you could though.
That would get you $75 and a...

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07-13-2008 02:32 PM  9 years agoPost 33
tchavei

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No point discussing this further. You hit the same wall on other threads where the same subject was being discussed. If you believe the Raptor line is healthy and enjoying new followers every day, thats fine by me. I don't even understand the $75 deal then.... I guess they are just being nice.

About my likes or dislikes concerning Raptors... Never liked them, never will (contrary to some die hard Raptor fans that now are kissing align's a**). That doesn't mean I wouldn't like to see something new from them coming out. If you can't understand that, well I'm sorry. I can't explain it better than I already did. Any company stopping to compete with the rest of the market just hurts us all together. Heck, I'm even eager to see the new MA 50 machine hitting the street and yet I'm not going to buy one. Like I said before, the more the better.

This will be my final comment. I have better things to do than enter a fight over TT business strategy (which isn't even my company of choice)

Oh, and no more free cents for you. Start earning them.

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07-13-2008 02:42 PM  9 years agoPost 34
Divot

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No point discussing this further
Fair enough.

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07-13-2008 05:28 PM  9 years agoPost 35
captb

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It works the same as car dealers they're not accepting any gas guzzler trade in's either.

If it's gonna happen it'll happen up there!

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07-14-2008 04:55 PM  9 years agoPost 36
jester4

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I see this as a promotion, just like any other company would do. I don't see it as a lifeline to survival for the company. We think we have the pulse of the hobby by being on these forums, but things are much larger "out there". Companies like thunder tiger and Century have a few older models that they still sell, but guess what?, I still see new ones show up at the field.

They have taken a hit from companies like align, that's for sure, but that doesn't mean they are hurting bad (who knows, just speculating, they could be bleeding heavily for all I know)

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07-14-2008 05:14 PM  9 years agoPost 37
tadawson

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I think that the bottom line here is that the Raptor line, no matter how old, is a significant upgrade for a lot of the newbie pilots and their crappy little miniature electric turds, and Ace is attempting to get a part of that upgrade market . . . . nothing more . . .

- Tim

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07-14-2008 05:19 PM  9 years agoPost 38
Professorwiz

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Wow this sounds great, another Raptor 30 is better than the old Xcell60 with the bent frames that isn't running and sitting in the corner!

Go that way really fast.. If something gets in your way.. TURN

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07-15-2008 03:15 PM  9 years agoPost 39
switch26

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Wow this sounds great, another Raptor 30 is better than the old Xcell60 with the bent frames that isn't running and sitting in the corner!
i wouldnt compare the raptor to the x-cell,i have to say,i had two
x-cell 60 one was the bent frame and the other an se98,aside from being alittle complicated to build due to the high parts count,

i still think it is a much better flyer than the raptors,infact ill be looking for a bent frame x-cell 60 for a fuselage project,im just waiting for the right deal

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