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07-11-2008 01:33 PM  9 years agoPost 1
lesodell3

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http://www.hobby-lobby.com/fpv.htm
i cant wait to get one and soon they will have a heads up display

aah words to live by. "A side note, vigilante behaviour will be squelched!"

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07-11-2008 01:42 PM  9 years agoPost 2
Dood

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Hmm. They say not to use it with a 2.4ghz radio.

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07-11-2008 01:45 PM  9 years agoPost 3
Cambyses

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I would get so sick.

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07-11-2008 01:50 PM  9 years agoPost 4
lesodell3

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i have leaned the hard way about using a 2.4 vid cam on a plane , i was using a 100 mw tx on the cam and when i got about 50ft from he the plane went down like someone had turned off my tx and i have had a 5.8 cam to same thing so dont use 2.4 when doing the vid cam thing

aah words to live by. "A side note, vigilante behaviour will be squelched!"

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07-11-2008 03:09 PM  9 years agoPost 5
u77171

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I really like the concept but I would be concerned that I would fly out of range without realizing it.

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07-11-2008 03:12 PM  9 years agoPost 6
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I think landing would be very hard.... unless it a foamy with no landing gear.

Check!

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07-11-2008 03:35 PM  9 years agoPost 7
Dood

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I would be concerned that I would fly out of range without realizing it.
Not if you followed the "rules" that wouldn't happen.
What you're thinking would not be a good idea, against the law actually. On that link are some pretty important safety guidelines, these will prevent an incident and keep you inside the law.
    READ THE OWNER'S MANUAL COMPLETELY BEFORE ATTEMPTING ANY FPV FLIGHT.

  1. As with all RC flights, check your equipment carefully. Make sure your battery is fully charged and range check your radio equipment before EVERY flight.

  2. R/C control and wireless video CANNOT be on the same frequency, therefore 2.4 GHz radios will not work with Pilot View FPV 2400.

  3. If piloting with FPV, it is best to fly sitting down, especially when first learning. Due to the immersive nature of FPV flying, motion induced nausea can occur with some people, therefore it is better to sit than stand.

  4. ALWAYS fly FPV with a spotter who maintains visual, direct line-of-sight contact with the aircraft. The spotter should be connected via a buddy box, such that if a problem arises (ie: loss of video signal, disorientation, too far out of range, etc.) the spotter can immediately take control of the aircraft and land it safely.

  5. Some video "glitching" may be expected. This is due to the nature of 2.4 GHz RF transmissions, and can be due to "multi-path' conditions or antenna alignment changes during flight. These type "glitches" are usually very quick and result in the video image being distorted only momentarily. However, if severe or prolonged glitching occurs, LAND IMMEDIATELY. There may be a problem with the video system, or possibly external interference. In these cases, FPV flight SHOULD NOT BE ATTEMPTED until the cause of the interference can be resolved.

  6. This product is designed with a range consistent with a typical flying field. Never allow the RC airplane to leave visual range of the field.

  7. Fly in a safe area as you would any RC aircraft. This product is not designed for high-density public areas.

  8. Know your flying field! Pick out major visual references before takeoff which will help orient you in flight.

  9. Pilot View FPV 2400 has only 4 channels. Please post your channel number before flying.

  10. Never place your equipment closer than 30 feet to the nearest RC pilot flying a 2.4 GHz radio. Further separation might be required depending on particular field conditions.

  11. Pilot View FPV is designed for personal use only at an RC flying field. Any professional use is potentially subject to local regulations.

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07-11-2008 03:39 PM  9 years agoPost 8
mikefoy6

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On a plank this might work.

But i've flown a camera heli (bergen gasser) while looking through a video uplink just like this. Not easy to do. You see a lot of sky and a lot of ground. You can lose a refernce point and then you dont know witch way the heli is pointing. The only time it is easy is when you can see the horizon.

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07-11-2008 04:43 PM  9 years agoPost 9
PBusch

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I would puke, no doubt about it.

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07-11-2008 04:49 PM  9 years agoPost 10
Leif

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According to the 2008 AMA guidelines, the PILOT must have direct visual contact with the aircraft at all times.
The operator of a radio-controlled model aircraft shall control it during the entire flight, maintaining visual contact without enhancement other than by corrective lenses that are prescribed for the pilot. No model aircraft shall be equipped with devices which allow it to be flown to a selected location which is beyond the visual range of the pilot.
The bolded instructions are fine, but the person they are calling the "spotter" is actually the PILOT, who is ultimately responsible for the safety of the flight. If a "student" on the headset is flying on a buddy box, that is still OK as long as the PIC has a direct visual on the aircraft and ensures that the flight is safe.

This new AMA rule was put in place specifically in response to products like this one and the "heli chair".

Leif

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07-11-2008 05:02 PM  9 years agoPost 11
u77171

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I would be interested in trying it on a cheap foamy that I didn't care about.

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07-11-2008 05:23 PM  9 years agoPost 12
crofty

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# Never place your equipment closer than 30 feet to the nearest RC pilot flying a 2.4 GHz radio. Further separation might be required depending on particular field conditions.
Oh great that's all we need. A bunch of people turning up with unregulated equipment and knocking out the 2.4Ghz aircraft. Sounds rather risky.

I have nerves of steel but thumbs of jelly!

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07-11-2008 05:56 PM  9 years agoPost 13
acmeworksfab

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I have been on and off flying like this for a year now. It was so hard making the transition at first. flying the sim first person is not even close to doing it real life. I also found, for me, I can fly better off a monitor than off the glasses.
I run a dx7 for heli controls. my 9cap for camera controls and a 900mhz 1w for my video downlink. I also run an osd with gps and voltage, current, heading ect.
It is pretty cool to fly like this. on an airplane it is super easy, helicopter much harder especially when taking off and landing.
here are some pics of my new ap fpv heli.
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07-11-2008 06:21 PM  9 years agoPost 14
ChristianM

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Wow, that is quite the setup. Any particular reason for making your own custom heli for this application or was it just for the challenge?

Christian

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07-11-2008 06:32 PM  9 years agoPost 15
acmeworksfab

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I wanted to be able to pick my heli out of the crowd at fun flys and owning a machine shop doesn't hurt either.
Ian

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07-11-2008 08:47 PM  9 years agoPost 16
Topher

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owning a machine shop doesn't hurt either.
I was just about to say: this guy must own a machine shop!

will wash your heli for a quarter

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07-11-2008 09:24 PM  9 years agoPost 17
SkateFreak

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Hey,
I hate to say this but its been done before...
Only the chap in the vid i saw doing it did it so much better

One word.

GY401!

Strap two of thoes to the head set, set the up on the two axis on the camera and he could look around whist flying!

I cant say I'm not very very very very very very very very tempted myself

-Jvr

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07-12-2008 04:51 AM  9 years agoPost 18
jking

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definitly would have to have a reference like the horizon to be able to fly a heli.this to me seems to be heading towards uavs if you ask me.

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07-12-2008 06:30 AM  9 years agoPost 19
GimbalFan (RIP)

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FPV2400 "Pilot View FPV 2400" First Person Video Camera ..... $ 549.00
That's a reasonable price for the video quality.
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Fine work your homebuilts there, acmeworksfab.

How 'bout some specs, like all-up weights and motor/esc/batt selections?

op-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-t

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07-12-2008 06:11 PM  9 years agoPost 20
SkateFreak

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I still dont like this little setup,
Build it yourself and you can put two gyros on it and look around as if you were in the cockpit !!!!

lol

-Jvr

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